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IBJJF bans Globetrotters
6 year(s) ago • 20206 views • 124 replies
RBBlack belt 6th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
To some of you who do not know me, just my 2 cents.
In 97 I was already out on the matts reffing fights, I got to be me known as un bias in my calls.
Ref for the Machado's, Cleber, Gracies and ALOT of others.
1999, Relson Gracie ask me to ref at the Arnolds event in Ohio, which I did for many years. Big honor.
Started reffing for the IBJJF, did so with many of my friends at "MANY" events until they wanted us to pay for our black belts and degree
at that time I would have to shell out $450.00 that it would be ok to be and IBJJF ref.
Alot of us said no and moved on.
I do not know or have shaken Christian hand, at least he is reaching out to Carlinos and the Jiu Jitsu world to help out
close that bridge in a fair matter, more work is need, but at least he his trying.
In 97 I was already out on the matts reffing fights, I got to be me known as un bias in my calls.
Ref for the Machado's, Cleber, Gracies and ALOT of others.
1999, Relson Gracie ask me to ref at the Arnolds event in Ohio, which I did for many years. Big honor.
Started reffing for the IBJJF, did so with many of my friends at "MANY" events until they wanted us to pay for our black belts and degree
at that time I would have to shell out $450.00 that it would be ok to be and IBJJF ref.
Alot of us said no and moved on.
I do not know or have shaken Christian hand, at least he is reaching out to Carlinos and the Jiu Jitsu world to help out
close that bridge in a fair matter, more work is need, but at least he his trying.
RRBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Look, we all know that the IBJJF has always been about getting their cash first and foremost, rather than about promoting the legacy of BJJ. I finally registered with them going on two years ago (end of the year my "provisional" status ends), and when I first tried to sign up under Royce Gracie, they wanted me to get Royce to fill out paperwork to verify himself..... Royce F'N Gracie....... I wrote the people in the approval email chain, that if they didn't know who Royce was, they needed to learn Jiu Jitsu themselves. If it wasn't that they were considered the most legitimate way of certifying your status at the time, I would have never signed up with them, or had my team of young competitors (who want to do kid's Pans and Worlds.... Which is no longer an event). I hate that they have us over the proverbial barrel, I think their rule set hurts the essence of BJJ, and is designed for Brazilian competitors to win (wait for a few years when there is a dominant Brazilian leg locker, watch how they start changing the rules then). We're stuck with them until the time comes where a place like this verifies belts, and another governing body, with the joint association of teams decides that they don't want to play in the IBJJF sandbox anymore, gets together and establishes a new charter/set of rules/promotion standards for competition Jiu Jitsu.
It sucks because I've met countless people in my time at Newbreed who repped the BJJ Globetrotters affiliation, all great people.
It sucks because I've met countless people in my time at Newbreed who repped the BJJ Globetrotters affiliation, all great people.
RDBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
KPPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
it just shows what we already knew Ibjjf is about the $$$ signs no the sport. I for one have available NAGA, US grappling( a great organization ), American Grappling Federation, great grappling and several other regional organizations well available to compete in so i will not be spending my hard earned dollars with IBJJF ever again.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
What is actually funny is I probably would not have spent the time joining here if it was not for the Ruckus the IBJJF caused by banning Gobetrotters,, I am not a fan of the IBJJF and joined because after looking into it I wanted to show my support..
For what its worth I support what you guys are doing
For what its worth I support what you guys are doing
JGPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Globetrotters needs Timmy merch, stat.
I definitely want a shirt that says:
Best Regards,
Timmy
I definitely want a shirt that says:
Best Regards,
Timmy
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ORBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
How much does it cost to register an association? I know it's $400 for the black belt for the first year, but I am guessing association registration is extra.
WJBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
How much does it cost to register an association? I know it's $400 for the black belt for the first year, but I am guessing association registration is extra.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
How much does it cost to register an association? I know it's $400 for the black belt for the first year, but I am guessing association registration is extra.
You don't have to ($400-)certify your black belt with them to register an academy (you can't really register associations, it's all academies and they don't seem to treat these two things much differently). All you need is a black belt membership ($40 or so a year), then I believe it's around $70 to register the academy.
That $400 certification doesn't serve any purpose at all (you just get a piece of paper), but I'm sure many people think they need it to compete as black belts or register their academy.
That $400 certification doesn't serve any purpose at all (you just get a piece of paper), but I'm sure many people think they need it to compete as black belts or register their academy.
JSPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'm not organizing tournaments anytime soon, just to make that clear :)
As someone who has helped organize and helped run a few successful tournaments, I don't blame you in the least. Never again, for me.
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JSPurple beltVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
As someone who has helped organize and helped run a few successful tournaments, I don't blame you in the least. Never again, for me.
Haha yes I've done something like 50 of them myself. You and I... we know... we know :D
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
AKPurple beltVerified
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
RGBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Yeah, this is a pretty low move, but exactly what we'd all expect from them. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, but definitely not surprised it happened now. I wonder if the membership card pushed it over the edge? Or the certificate prototype?
i think that's exactly what happened. Especially the certificate haha!
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I believe If it was about money, the IBJJF could have made more by keeping BJJGT.... This was about power.
Well, they make money off academies registering with them. BJJ Globetrotters provided a way for academies to avoid that.
BWBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'd be curious to know how many new signups there have been here since the ban came to light...
RGBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'd be curious to know how many new signups there have been here since the ban came to light...
yes, i'm curious to know as well. I'd like to see the data showing the growth rate before the ban and then after to see if there was an influx of users to the site.
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
yes, i'm curious to know as well. I'd like to see the data showing the growth rate before the ban and then after to see if there was an influx of users to the site.
The data is available at Menu > Stats > System
Typically it's been about 50-70 new registrations a day, yesterday we had 1000.
Thanks, Timmy! :D
Typically it's been about 50-70 new registrations a day, yesterday we had 1000.
Thanks, Timmy! :D
ANBrown beltVerified
JGPurple beltVerified
JGPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Fuckery is afoot, friends. It appears that the IBJJF may be attempting to engage in some Recommendation Fu. I’d say that providing fair access to their competitions is very much an issue related to their service.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Okay. So Hywel Teague of Flograppling (whom I happen to know and get along fine personally, I hope no hard feelings if he finds out I've shared this here but Twitter is public and topic is important) tweeted that there's two sides to the story and BJJGT has been signing "fake" belts. Which I replied to that I think this is BS :)
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Okay. So Hywel Teague of Flograppling (whom I happen to know and get along fine personally, I hope no hard feelings if he finds out I've shared this here but Twitter is public and topic is important) tweeted that there's two sides to the story and BJJGT has been signing 'fake' belts. Which I replied to that I think this is BS :)
Oh wow, yeah that's a bit surprising. It's funny how a few people mention they know of faked belts signed by BJJ Globetrotters but nobody (including IBJJF) are telling me about it. Isn't withholding that information as bad as faking the belt itself, as you enable it? If it is actually more than a bitter rumor, that is.
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Oh wow, yeah that's a bit surprising. It's funny how a few people mention they know of faked belts signed by BJJ Globetrotters but nobody (including IBJJF) are telling me about it. Isn't withholding that information as bad as faking the belt itself, as you enable it? If it is actually more than a bitter rumor, that is.
If this in fact is the real world basis for the case, that a "fake belt" has been registered under BJJ Globetrotters... how have the IBJJF found about it?
Also, even if a fake belt has managed to slip pass the rank verification process, still immediately suspending ALL memberships from the largest BJJ team in the world without any dialogue whatsoever IS total bullshit.
Ironically, Beltchecker kinda would have solved the problem, as it was announced that anybody would have to have their rank verified here before getting a signature for IBJJF by the Globetrotters. (As, afaik, this the best anti-fake platform available so far.)
Also, even if a fake belt has managed to slip pass the rank verification process, still immediately suspending ALL memberships from the largest BJJ team in the world without any dialogue whatsoever IS total bullshit.
Ironically, Beltchecker kinda would have solved the problem, as it was announced that anybody would have to have their rank verified here before getting a signature for IBJJF by the Globetrotters. (As, afaik, this the best anti-fake platform available so far.)
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