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Post Your Lineage
6 year(s) ago • 59839 views • 355 replies
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6 year(s) ago
Carlos/Helio Gracie * Rigan Machado * John Will * Dave Cork
My list of coaches:
Harvey Skinner
Errol Watson
Travis Browne
Andrew Higgins
We all used to train between Cambridge and Hamilton. Spread the knowledge team.
My list of coaches:
Harvey Skinner
Errol Watson
Travis Browne
Andrew Higgins
We all used to train between Cambridge and Hamilton. Spread the knowledge team.
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6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie Sr. > Helio Gracie > Carlos Gracie Jr. > Ralph Gracie > Don Geddis (me)
(There might be a little dispute on the lineage between Carlos Sr. and Carlos Jr. A lot of people suggest Helio for the bridge, but probably Rickson is in there somewhere too, and perhaps Rolls. For that matter, surely Carlos Sr. taught his own son some stuff directly.)
(There might be a little dispute on the lineage between Carlos Sr. and Carlos Jr. A lot of people suggest Helio for the bridge, but probably Rickson is in there somewhere too, and perhaps Rolls. For that matter, surely Carlos Sr. taught his own son some stuff directly.)
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6 year(s) ago
judo: kano->miss fakuda->jana d->joe killion/ross g-> me
bjj: kano-> maeda -> luis fanca ->oswaldo fadda -> monir salomao -> ulio cesar pereira -> joao tavares -> diego da costa -> me
bjj: kano-> maeda -> luis fanca ->oswaldo fadda -> monir salomao -> ulio cesar pereira -> joao tavares -> diego da costa -> me
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Curious to see what everyone's lineage looks like. Also feel free to post your opinions on the importance or lack there of, of bjj lineage. How many steps from the source are you?! I am a blue belt under Allan Goes and my lineage is: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Carlson Gracie > Allan Goes > Me
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Carlson Gracie > Banni Cavalcanti > Júlio Pudim > Sandro Bala > Vitor Sousa
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Francisco Mansur > Joe Moreira > Roy Harris > Kevin Jones.... Boom
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Interested in how dis/similar your game/knowledge is that to your direct Professor. Mine is completely different due to being isolated, size, weight, age, strength differences. Variation and adaptation based on what I recognize my strengths and weaknesses are have largely shaped my game - some by choice and other from evidence (of getting smashed by stronger, heavier partners). What I learn from my Professor are mostly 60% concepts, 20% techniques and 20% how he teaches these.
Yeah, it is interesting to see if lineage does have an impact on somebody's game. Certainly does on mine. Despite Roger being something like double my weight and about a foot taller, I still have a slow, heavy pressure game, so more of a 'big guy' approach. Which I'm definitely not, at 5'7 and about 67kg. ;)
Kev, by contrast, is almost exactly the same size as me. Though I guess I did learn from Roger first, as I started at the Roger Gracie Academy in 2006. That's where Kev and I met, which is why I went to his school once I moved out of London, 2009, and have stuck with Kev ever since (despite me moving across the country almost 10 years ago now, he still comes down for seminars).
Kev, by contrast, is almost exactly the same size as me. Though I guess I did learn from Roger first, as I started at the Roger Gracie Academy in 2006. That's where Kev and I met, which is why I went to his school once I moved out of London, 2009, and have stuck with Kev ever since (despite me moving across the country almost 10 years ago now, he still comes down for seminars).
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda> Carlos Gracie> Helio Gracie, Rickson Gracie> Marcelo Behring> Waldomiro Perez> Roberto Godoi> Marco Barbosa> Eduardo Nascimento> Me
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6 year(s) ago
Our Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu lineage:
Mitsuyo Maeda → Carlos Gracie, Sr. → Carlson Gracie, Sr. → André Pederneiras → John Lewis → Enson Inoue → Mike Martelle— Luis Ciraiz— Me
Mitsuyo Maeda → Carlos Gracie, Sr. → Carlson Gracie, Sr. → André Pederneiras → John Lewis → Enson Inoue → Mike Martelle— Luis Ciraiz— Me
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6 year(s) ago
Carlos Gracie Jr -> Vinicius Magalhaes (Draculino) -> Remco Pardoel -> Bart Albers -> Me
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda → Carlos Gracie Sr → Carlson Gracie → Rodrigo Medeiros → Andrew Ryan → me
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo "Count Koma" Maeda> Carlos Gracie Sr.>Carlson Gracie Sr.> Renato Tavares>Mike Budnik>Me
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Black belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Carlos Gracie Jr > Peter de Been > Me.
Obviously this list could go back further, but these are what applies to me in this period.
Obviously this list could go back further, but these are what applies to me in this period.
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6 year(s) ago
Bruce Tegner > Grappling magazine > YouTube > me
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Lineage: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie Sr. > Carlos Gracie Junior > Carlos Lemos Jr > Federico Tisi > me

Brown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Frankly got no idea, The two main black belts I have trained under is Bruno Matias and David Dotzsky here in Sweden. I have never researched their linage.
I have now googled and this is the result:
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Bruno Matias
Bruno Mathias trained me 2 times a week at lunch class and awarded me 2 stripes on my blue belt, I trained with him from 2017-2019. Now the dojo we used for lunch classes are closed and Bruno has classes to far away for me to get to at lunch.
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Alan Finfou > David Dotzsky
David has trained me every week att my home club SKIFT and been my professor since white belt. It was David who promoted me to blue and purple belt.
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Bruno Matias
Bruno Mathias trained me 2 times a week at lunch class and awarded me 2 stripes on my blue belt, I trained with him from 2017-2019. Now the dojo we used for lunch classes are closed and Bruno has classes to far away for me to get to at lunch.
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Alan Finfou > David Dotzsky
David has trained me every week att my home club SKIFT and been my professor since white belt. It was David who promoted me to blue and purple belt.
Brown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Took some doing to figure this out because my lineage changed at one point in time when my instructor switched affiliations.
Currently:
Carlos Gracie -> Carlson Gracie -> Carlson Gracie Jr. -> Rafa Santos -> Michael Rooney -> Me (Brown Belt)
We were previously affiliated with Roy Harris but switched after our coach got his black belt. Although I spent close to two years training prior to working with Mike, I've gotten all my promotions and about 98% of my grappling from him.
Currently:
Carlos Gracie -> Carlson Gracie -> Carlson Gracie Jr. -> Rafa Santos -> Michael Rooney -> Me (Brown Belt)
We were previously affiliated with Roy Harris but switched after our coach got his black belt. Although I spent close to two years training prior to working with Mike, I've gotten all my promotions and about 98% of my grappling from him.
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
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6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
My instructor went to 1st degree with Roy Harris but switched affiliations and got his 2nd degree from Rafa Santos. If we just switched affiliations, that'd be one thing but he has been promoted by Rafa to 2nd degree and we've been in his network for several years so we use that lineage.
Realistically, who gives a shit?
Realistically, who gives a shit?
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
I don't think there are any rules on it as such and we have discussed this before on here, but i'm with you I think it's only relevant to who you got your black belt from.
I think people are less and less concerned about lineage nowadays in anycase.
I think people are less and less concerned about lineage nowadays in anycase.
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I don't think there are any rules on it as such and we have discussed this before on here, but i'm with you I think it's only relevant to who you got your black belt from. I think people are less and less concerned about lineage nowadays in anycase.
I'm glad that folks are less concerned. I don't think a lineage can tell you much about someone and I think their full history, the kind we document on our profiles here, is more indicative of what you can expect their grappling philosophy to look like.
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Reylson Gracie>Ken Gabrielson> Me
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo "Count Koma" Maeda> Carlos Gracie Sr.>Carlson Gracie Jr.> Osvaldo Alves>Rogerio Olegario>Me

Black belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
You’re a Fake BLACK BELT.
You disrespect the rules.
You disrespect all the people who live the bjjlifestyle.
You’re a clown.
Please all the guys that knows me to vote FAKE to this guy.
You don’t know how to tie your belt.
You disrespect the rules.
You disrespect all the people who live the bjjlifestyle.
You’re a clown.
Please all the guys that knows me to vote FAKE to this guy.
You don’t know how to tie your belt.
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Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
You’re a Fake BLACK BELT. You disrespect the rules. You disrespect all the people who live the bjjlifestyle. You’re a clown. Please all the guys that knows me to vote FAKE to this guy. You don’t know how to tie your belt.
Who?
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
The guy with the black gi up on this post.
Oh right. . . yeah it is odd he is wearing a black belt but his profile states he is a brown belt although I'm gonna need a bit more on the back story before i start dishing out downvotes. Even you haven't down voted him





