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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)
5 year(s) ago • 43628 views • 949 replies
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Let's face it if he had a Black Belt he would post the certificate ... The average person doesn't understand stripes/ degrees etc.. But now he has himself in a position where even the Black Belt is in question..
There is question on both his rank and his mental health at this point and he is promoting people to Black Belt and they are then teaching.... Parents are trusting their children with him. I am sorry but that is a bad thing.. If this Gregory guy believes he was given a black he should know better it is the beginners that don't..
And by the Bridgett I know you were probably uncomfortable starting this but you did the right thing.. There is nothing wrong with questioning rank hell we have a thread here where most of us were happy to share out lineage
There is question on both his rank and his mental health at this point and he is promoting people to Black Belt and they are then teaching.... Parents are trusting their children with him. I am sorry but that is a bad thing.. If this Gregory guy believes he was given a black he should know better it is the beginners that don't..
And by the Bridgett I know you were probably uncomfortable starting this but you did the right thing.. There is nothing wrong with questioning rank hell we have a thread here where most of us were happy to share out lineage
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Let's face it if he had a Black Belt he would post the certificate ... The average person doesn't understand stripes/ degrees etc.. But now he has himself in a position where even the Black Belt is in question.. There is question on both his rank and his mental health at this point and he is promoting people to Black Belt and they are then teaching.... Parents are trusting their children with him. I am sorry but that is a bad thing.. If this Gregory guy believes he was given a black he should know better it is the beginners that don't.. And by the Bridgett I know you were probably uncomfortable starting this but you did the right thing.. There is nothing wrong with questioning rank hell we have a thread here where most of us were happy to share out lineage
Exactly, and this is why lineage is so important. Even if he didn't have a certificate. His Lineage would create a manor by which he could be validated. I also know most blackbelts have some sort of photo evidence of such a monumental event in ones life.
If this guy truly earned his Blackbelt he would have made sure he could proudly display it, judging by how deeply he has dug his heels in on this, he's anything but. He's got a huge EGO so any true SLIM sniff
of evidence would be shown.
If this guy truly earned his Blackbelt he would have made sure he could proudly display it, judging by how deeply he has dug his heels in on this, he's anything but. He's got a huge EGO so any true SLIM sniff
of evidence would be shown.
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Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
And by the Bridgett I know you were probably uncomfortable starting this but you did the right thing..
Ha, thanks. I'm new to jiu-jitsu, but I'm kind of an old hand at nailing people on the Internet.
I did learn a lot in this thread. I knew very little about advanced black belt degrees or the Fadda lineage when it started. I really appreciate everyone adding their expertise and especially David's and Drew's research.
I'm very surprised how this all turned out. I expected to learn that Mr. Rogers had gotten to purple or brown and then self-promoted to black.
Now it's looking like he may have given himself nearly all if his promotions. Just amazing.
I did learn a lot in this thread. I knew very little about advanced black belt degrees or the Fadda lineage when it started. I really appreciate everyone adding their expertise and especially David's and Drew's research.
I'm very surprised how this all turned out. I expected to learn that Mr. Rogers had gotten to purple or brown and then self-promoted to black.
Now it's looking like he may have given himself nearly all if his promotions. Just amazing.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Ha, thanks. I'm new to jiu-jitsu, but I'm kind of an old hand at nailing people on the Internet. I did learn a lot in this thread. I knew very little about advanced black belt degrees or the Fadda lineage when it started. I really appreciate everyone adding their expertise and especially David's and Drew's research. I'm very surprised how this all turned out. I expected to learn that Mr. Rogers had gotten to purple or brown and then self-promoted to black. Now it's looking like he may have given himself nearly all if his promotions. Just amazing.
You may be a white belt on the mats, but you're a black belt at exposing some bullshit and fakes, and that makes you a red belt in all our hearts.
Now don't go Full Lasu over her and change your profile to Red Belt and claim I promoted you LOL.
Now don't go Full Lasu over her and change your profile to Red Belt and claim I promoted you LOL.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Once he had a falling out with the Machado affiliation, he claimed a legit but lesser known lineage. Seems the most likely explanation.
Per my anonymous source, he saw that Bankens had affiliated under Nathanson/Fadda and began claiming it as well.
>>>So, if he promoted someone to black belt, and they later got degrees from a legit black belt, where does that leave them? Does that validate a fraudulent past promotion?<<<
I think this would be a good question for its own thread. It's an interesting question and it will get more responses there than on page 19 (or whatever we're on) of this thread.
>>>So, if he promoted someone to black belt, and they later got degrees from a legit black belt, where does that leave them? Does that validate a fraudulent past promotion?<<<
I think this would be a good question for its own thread. It's an interesting question and it will get more responses there than on page 19 (or whatever we're on) of this thread.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
So, if he promoted someone to black belt, and they later got degrees from a legit black belt, where does that leave them? Does that validate a fraudulent past promotion?
I was faced with this exact same dilemma a couple weeks back: basically there was a "black belt" who came through this region of the world that I live in, eons ago, and was responsible for promoting several people to black belt.
While the original guy has moved on, many of his promotees have been living out their black belt lives, doing black belt stuff. Since these folks all received promotions, belt by belt, and the timelines of their promotions fall into that standard time range, and more importantly they are all currently being promoted through various other affiliations, I decided to verify them.
Tricky situation though, for sure!
While the original guy has moved on, many of his promotees have been living out their black belt lives, doing black belt stuff. Since these folks all received promotions, belt by belt, and the timelines of their promotions fall into that standard time range, and more importantly they are all currently being promoted through various other affiliations, I decided to verify them.
Tricky situation though, for sure!
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Can you guys see the Facebook reviews of Pure Jiu Jitsu? I think everyone has blocked me. I'm VERY sad
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Can you guys see the Facebook reviews of Pure Jiu Jitsu? I think everyone has blocked me. I'm VERY sad
I can still see it.
Just make a second FB account. (I always thought blocking people was dumb, unless they're bugging you on messenger, because making a second account is easy.)
Just make a second FB account. (I always thought blocking people was dumb, unless they're bugging you on messenger, because making a second account is easy.)
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I can't see reviews for ANYTHING. They reported me
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I can't see reviews for ANYTHING. They reported me
Bizarre. Your review is still up and it's scathing but respectful. Did Facebook send you a notification of discipline?
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
"Best BJJ cosplay in the country."
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Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
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Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Huh. If you're in Facebook Review jail, tbh, going to other people's reviews and arguing with them could be part of what got you there. These review sites will let you post a negative review, but they won't let you do anything that's perceived as "harassing" the business.
Years ago a shitty daycare kicked out my son and then made up a crazy story about me cussing and raving in their hallways, said I was engaging in "nonverbal outbursts." (Reality: I picked up my son and left quietly without a word. They had made the same claims against multiple customers and DCFS workers.) They said I was not to come within 500 feet of any of their locations. They apparently don't know that you can't just make up your own restraining orders without a court case. So I took a picture of myself standing right outside their business and posted it to their Yelp page. I posted negative reviews to all ~9 of their locations.
Yelp removed all of my reviews and the picture. They said I could only review one location. I said fine, but when I re-posted a review, it went straight to "not recommended" reviews.
Anyhow, I learned my lesson after that. If you want to post a negative review of a business, keep it straight and simple and don't do anything that can be perceived as harassing the business, even if it's hilarious. :-D
Years ago a shitty daycare kicked out my son and then made up a crazy story about me cussing and raving in their hallways, said I was engaging in "nonverbal outbursts." (Reality: I picked up my son and left quietly without a word. They had made the same claims against multiple customers and DCFS workers.) They said I was not to come within 500 feet of any of their locations. They apparently don't know that you can't just make up your own restraining orders without a court case. So I took a picture of myself standing right outside their business and posted it to their Yelp page. I posted negative reviews to all ~9 of their locations.
Yelp removed all of my reviews and the picture. They said I could only review one location. I said fine, but when I re-posted a review, it went straight to "not recommended" reviews.
Anyhow, I learned my lesson after that. If you want to post a negative review of a business, keep it straight and simple and don't do anything that can be perceived as harassing the business, even if it's hilarious. :-D
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Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Mr Rogers still haven’t replied yet. Still he claims to be a Fadda Lineage/ mestre Alves representative.

Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Huh. If you're in Facebook Review jail, tbh, going to other people's reviews and arguing with them could be part of what got you there. These review sites will let you post a negative review, but they won't let you do anything that's perceived as 'harassing' the business. Years ago a shitty daycare kicked out my son and then made up a crazy story about me cussing and raving in their hallways, said I was engaging in 'nonverbal outbursts.' (Reality: I picked up my son and left quietly without a word. They had made the same claims against multiple customers and DCFS workers.) They said I was not to come within 500 feet of any of their locations. They apparently don't know that you can't just make up your own restraining orders without a court case. So I took a picture of myself standing right outside their business and posted it to their Yelp page. I posted negative reviews to all ~9 of their locations. Yelp removed all of my reviews and the picture. They said I could only review one location. I said fine, but when I re-posted a review, it went straight to 'not recommended' reviews. Anyhow, I learned my lesson after that. If you want to post a negative review of a business, keep it straight and simple and don't do anything that can be perceived as harassing the business, even if it's hilarious. :-D
Remind me not to try to sell you a broken toaster on craigslist.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Mr Rogers still haven’t replied yet. Still he claims to be a Fadda Lineage/ mestre Alves representative.
And now that thread says it has only 5 comments. He outright deleted Alves' comment.
Disgraceful.
Disgraceful.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Looks like Lasu deleted the comments from Edmilson Alves from their business page, but the content is still on Jordan Matthew Gregory's post.
https://m.facebook.com/st[...]oser=false
https://m.facebook.com/st[...]oser=false

Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I just want to know if they are still going to be friends tomorrow.
Looks like Edmilson Alves isn't friends with Randy Lasu Rogers anymore, but he is still friends with Lasu Rogers.

Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Edmilson just gave me the Silver Glove in Savate so I'm done with Jits.
Anyone know what Savate is and is there a Savate for dummies book available before I make fool of myself. Lol
Anyone know what Savate is and is there a Savate for dummies book available before I make fool of myself. Lol
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Looks like Edmilson Alves isn't friends with Randy Lasu Rogers anymore, but he is still friends with Lasu Rogers.
Steven! LOL!!
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Looks like Edmilson Alves isn't friends with Randy Lasu Rogers anymore, but he is still friends with Lasu Rogers.
Yeah I noticed I was blocked by Randy Lasu Rogers but not Lasu Rogers.
Only a true badass would block polite white belt women on Facebook.
Only a true badass would block polite white belt women on Facebook.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yeah I noticed I was blocked by Randy Lasu Rogers but not Lasu Rogers. Only a true badass would block polite white belt women on Facebook.
Jordan blocked me too. This one stings. I was looking forward to watching his next promotion
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Steven! LOL!!
He's got multiple personal profiles. Maybe one got promoted by Carlos Machado and the other by Tom McGonigal. Lol
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Jordan blocked me too. This one stings. I was looking forward to watching his next promotion
I ve been blocked too, cause I asked who promoted the „mestre“ Lasu to 7th degree!?
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I ve been blocked too, cause I asked who promoted the „mestre“ Lasu to 7th degree!?
I am more interested in who promoted Lasu to blue belt at this point
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I am more interested in who promoted Lasu to blue belt at this point
Yeah.... he at least must have had some („blackbelt“?) skills, as bjj blackbelt Gabby Romero wrote to you, didn’t she?
Don’t get me wrong.... it is not my intention to „defend“ this guy....
Don’t get me wrong.... it is not my intention to „defend“ this guy....
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yeah.... he at least must have had some („blackbelt“?) skills, as bjj blackbelt Gabby Romero wrote to you, didn’t she? Don’t get me wrong.... it is not my intention to „defend“ this guy....
See I'm not convinced he had the skills. I think her opinion is the product of nobody wanting to put him down.. because it would bring down so many others . I think he learned some jiu jitsu and was athletic.
If someone gave him a blue belt or higher, why would he only mention tom mcgonigal, who he only wore a white belt with
If someone gave him a blue belt or higher, why would he only mention tom mcgonigal, who he only wore a white belt with
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
See I'm not convinced he had the skills. I think her opinion is the product of nobody wanting to put him down.. because it would bring down so many others . I think he learned some jiu jitsu and was athletic. If someone gave him a blue belt or higher, why would he only mention tom mcgonigal, who he only wore a white belt with
Yeah....I suppose we will never ever know.
And it looks like he does not put a serious effort in it to let the people know his „real“ lineage or who ranked him....
And it looks like he does not put a serious effort in it to let the people know his „real“ lineage or who ranked him....



