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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)

5 year(s) ago • 43591 views • 949 replies

Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Are these guys ahead of the pack when it comes to fraud in BJJ?
I think they have cornered the market on fraudism.

Thus the term "Lasu-ing it"
Joshua Janis
Joshua Janis
Black belt 1st degreeVerified17 forum posts4870/1000
5 year(s) ago
Hello friends,

I wonder, what is it that is trying to be done with this thread? Obviously the guy is a fake 17th degree blood belt, but what is our obligation as a community, if any at all?
My 2 cents: Beltchecker community did its job. If people do their homework they will know he is a fraud. Now let history forget this guy.
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Hello friends, I wonder, what is it that is trying to be done with this thread? Obviously the guy is a fake 17th degree blood belt, but what is our obligation as a community, if any at all? My 2 cents: Beltchecker community did its job. If people do their homework they will know he is a fraud. Now let history forget this guy.
We are now trying to get it to 1000 posts
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified82 forum posts1945/1000
5 year(s) ago
Shoe on the mat. Not only is he a fraud, he's a idiot
Also what up with all the socks? I get it if its freezing cold. But arent they in Arizona? I would imagine Arizona would be pretty warm around this time of the year. Im in NJ and its warm. That guy on the right with the boxing gloves and socks lol. I would imagine that he would slip around when throwing punches unless he was wearing shoes on the mats.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
Hello friends, I wonder, what is it that is trying to be done with this thread? Obviously the guy is a fake 17th degree blood belt, but what is our obligation as a community, if any at all? My 2 cents: Beltchecker community did its job. If people do their homework they will know he is a fraud. Now let history forget this guy.
No, technically our responsibility is to show up.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
No, technically our responsibility is to show up.
The last people that did that never came back though...
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
LOL! Then they are clearly legit!
I mean promoting yourself doesn’t automatically mean you’re not a beast on the mat.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts4065/1000
5 year(s) ago
I mean promoting yourself doesn’t automatically mean you’re not a beast on the mat.
It's what the Gracies did.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
It's what the Gracies did.
According to Chael Sonnen, Mark Schultz promoted himself too. I was always under the impression that Pedro just promoted him, but I guess so other things took place (if you believe Chael).

https://youtu.be/fBBDQ6mIW0o
Joshua Janis
Joshua Janis
Black belt 1st degreeVerified17 forum posts4870/1000
5 year(s) ago
No, technically our responsibility is to show up.
To show up at the guys gym? That would be like picking a fight with a 90 year old. If you win, your an asshole for fighting a 90 yr old. If you lose, you are the asshole who got beat up by a 90 yr old.
Plus, I don't want to have to pay him his mat fee :)
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
To show up at the guys gym? That would be like picking a fight with a 90 year old. If you win, your an asshole for fighting a 90 yr old. If you lose, you are the asshole who got beat up by a 90 yr old. Plus, I don't want to have to pay him his mat fee :)
Luckily for me I’m already an asshole.
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
According to Chael Sonnen, Mark Schultz promoted himself too. I was always under the impression that Pedro just promoted him, but I guess so other things took place (if you believe Chael). https://youtu.be/fBBDQ6mIW0o
Actually the story is he put the belt on and went and said to the people that objected take it off.. The couple guys who tried didn't have great luck.. I heard the story from someone who knows Mark really well
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Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
And we can’t forget about the “king.”
I have heard the stories about him but at least he has competed in high level competition both MMA and grappling so at least he steps up
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
Actually the story is he put the belt on and went and said to the people that objected take it off.. The couple guys who tried didn't have great luck.. I heard the story from someone who knows Mark really well
That’s pretty much what Chael said. No one with half a brain is dojo storming Mark that’s for sure.
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
Blue beltVerified621 forum posts3340/200
5 year(s) ago
If someone is self-promoted, they should just be honest about it. If they're winning tournaments or legitimately skilled but weren't promoted by anyone, just be open and up-front about it and let the community decide if they accept that or not.

It's when people self-promote and then evade (like blocking on social media when you ask them) or lie about it that I have a problem.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
If someone is self-promoted, they should just be honest about it. If they're winning tournaments or legitimately skilled but weren't promoted by anyone, just be open and up-front about it and let the community decide if they accept that or not. It's when people self-promote and then evade (like blocking on social media when you ask them) or lie about it that I have a problem.
That’s a good point. Our boy Lasu lied about who promoted him and that person publicly denied the promotion. He also promoted himself to a rank that he obviously would not be qualified for if he wasn’t a fraud. If you’re going to be a fraud I would think you’d try to make it be believable.
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
Blue beltVerified621 forum posts3340/200
5 year(s) ago
That’s a good point. Our boy Lasu lied about who promoted him and that person publicly denied the promotion. He also promoted himself to a rank that he obviously would not be qualified for if he wasn’t a fraud. If you’re going to be a fraud I would think you’d try to make it be believable.
He also lied about Fadda affiliation. And has been playing fast and loose with his students' stripes/degrees and promotions.

If he had promoted Jordan Gregory to no-degree black belt and limited his own degrees to 3-4, I don't think he ever would have come under scrutiny.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
He also lied about Fadda affiliation. And has been playing fast and loose with his students' stripes/degrees and promotions. If he had promoted Jordan Gregory to no-degree black belt and limited his own degrees to 3-4, I don't think he ever would have come under scrutiny.
+1 I am a little surprised a nutter like him even knows about Fadda.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
I guess Lasu took this one to heart when he self promoted himself.
No, he sees a grandmaster inside himself, new promotion coming soon.
Ben Wynne
Ben Wynne
Black belt 1st degreeVerified291 forum posts5040/1000
5 year(s) ago
omg the socks and sneakers on the mat!
it's like they keep forgetting that they like taking post training photos and only remember when people are half dressed to go home, haha

"don't worry about the shoes on the mat guys, the picture is more important!"
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1159 forum posts25450/400
5 year(s) ago
omg the socks and sneakers on the mat! it's like they keep forgetting that they like taking post training photos and only remember when people are half dressed to go home, haha 'don't worry about the shoes on the mat guys, the picture is more important!'
Every photo someone has shoes on, at this point I feel like it’s intentional just to trigger us.
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Is the goof troop expanding?
Where's lasu??????
Kinda like where's Waldo?
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Mirco
Mirco
Brown beltVerified832 forum posts6445/700
5 year(s) ago
Is the goof troop expanding?
Striking and conditioning class again.... where is the „pure Jiu Jitsu“ ??

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