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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)
5 year(s) ago • 43575 views • 949 replies
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm the one who mentioned Haueter on reddit to point out that for this guy to be a 7th degree he'd have had to be promoted to black belt in 1989 and it would fundamentally change who we know as the first set of American BJJ black belts. The Dirty Dozen weren't promoted until the mid 90s. https://www.bjjheroes.com[...]irty-dozen
Truth !!
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Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Just from what little I looked at this Id wager there is some real mental instability going on.
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Just from what little I looked at this Id wager there is some real mental instability going on.
That is my impression as well. Def some mental issues.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Just from what little I looked at this Id wager there is some real mental instability going on.
The guy on Reddit says he has a TBI.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm the one who mentioned Haueter on reddit to point out that for this guy to be a 7th degree he'd have had to be promoted to black belt in 1989 and it would fundamentally change who we know as the first set of American BJJ black belts. The Dirty Dozen weren't promoted until the mid 90s. https://www.bjjheroes.com[...]irty-dozen
This has really been fun to watch this feed today. Provided much enjoyment.
Moral of the story don't fuck with jiu-jitsu community and present yourself as something that you are not. We will call you on it.
Moral of the story don't fuck with jiu-jitsu community and present yourself as something that you are not. We will call you on it.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I trained in Albuquerque from 2012-2018. I ran into Lasu a few times, but was more familiar with him through stories I was told by his students who became my instructors, teammates, and friends. Full disclosure, I received my brown belt from his student/friend, Kevin "Conan" Bankens in 2016.
There is a very good chance Lasu is a legit black belt and probably at least one or two stripes. By all accounts (even from people who swear he's crazy) his BJJ is at a black belt level. Unfortunately he is locally infamous for striping himself and other people off schedule. He had an academy for a while in the 2008-2010 range but it went under for some reason. So one of the main reasons he's flown under the radar for the last 10 years is he only taught privates or "seminars".
Since he's opened a new academy though, he apparently decided to ramp up his shenanigans. He obviously fell prey to the fear of not being prestigious enough and decided just having a brown belt as an assistant coach didn't seem as cool as having a two stripe black. A real shame for the assistant coach (Jordan Gregory), who I'm told was a brown belt for a few years.
There is a very good chance Lasu is a legit black belt and probably at least one or two stripes. By all accounts (even from people who swear he's crazy) his BJJ is at a black belt level. Unfortunately he is locally infamous for striping himself and other people off schedule. He had an academy for a while in the 2008-2010 range but it went under for some reason. So one of the main reasons he's flown under the radar for the last 10 years is he only taught privates or "seminars".
Since he's opened a new academy though, he apparently decided to ramp up his shenanigans. He obviously fell prey to the fear of not being prestigious enough and decided just having a brown belt as an assistant coach didn't seem as cool as having a two stripe black. A real shame for the assistant coach (Jordan Gregory), who I'm told was a brown belt for a few years.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I trained in Albuquerque from 2012-2018. I ran into Lasu a few times, but was more familiar with him through stories I was told by his students who became my instructors, teammates, and friends. Full disclosure, I received my brown belt from his student/friend, Kevin 'Conan' Bankens in 2016. There is a very good chance Lasu is a legit black belt and probably at least one or two stripes. By all accounts (even from people who swear he's crazy) his BJJ is at a black belt level. Unfortunately he is locally infamous for striping himself and other people off schedule. He had an academy for a while in the 2008-2010 range but it went under for some reason. So one of the main reasons he's flown under the radar for the last 10 years is he only taught privates or 'seminars'. Since he's opened a new academy though, he apparently decided to ramp up his shenanigans. He obviously fell prey to the fear of not being prestigious enough and decided just having a brown belt as an assistant coach didn't seem as cool as having a two stripe black. A real shame for the assistant coach (Jordan Gregory), who I'm told was a brown belt for a few years.
Comments from "local" BJJ folks who know them / know of them are exactly what I was hoping to get when I started this thread. Thank you!
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Response from Carlos Machado's school (edited for punctuation):
"Hello Drew. Pure jiu-jitsu is not an RCJ Affiliate nor anywhere on our rolls. If they are falsely claiming that please let us know.
According to Master Carlos, he joined our association with rank already and was asked to leave. "
This rabbit hole goes deep.
"Hello Drew. Pure jiu-jitsu is not an RCJ Affiliate nor anywhere on our rolls. If they are falsely claiming that please let us know.
According to Master Carlos, he joined our association with rank already and was asked to leave. "
This rabbit hole goes deep.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
This is a good example of why mainstream adoption of Beltchecker would not be a bad thing for the sport, at all.
This thread is rapidly highlighting one of the strengths of BeltChecker: that even when BJJ practitioners don't have BeltChecker profiles, we have enough of a community here to investigate sketchy belts/degrees and call them out.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
This thread is rapidly highlighting one of the strengths of BeltChecker: that even when BJJ practitioners don't have BeltChecker profiles, we have enough of a community here to investigate sketchy belts/degrees and call them out.
I agree, it's very impressive what was accomplished in a short time
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Response from Carlos Machado's school (edited for punctuation): 'Hello Drew. Pure jiu-jitsu is not an RCJ Affiliate nor anywhere on our rolls. If they are falsely claiming that please let us know. According to Master Carlos, he joined our association with rank already and was asked to leave. ' This rabbit hole goes deep.
This explains why he stopped wearing the RCJ Machado gi and started claiming Fadda Lineage
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
This explains why he stopped wearing the RCJ Machado gi and started claiming Fadda Lineage
So if he showed up at Carlos Machado's "with rank," who gave him the black belt?
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So if he showed up at Carlos Machado's 'with rank,' who gave him the black belt?
That's just it. Cause he claimed Fadda only after Machado dropped him. I'm still going with fake. I keep hearing "he's black belt level" it what is that being compared to?
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
So if he showed up at Carlos Machado's 'with rank,' who gave him the black belt?
I'd like yo know who promoted him? That would go a long way in resolving this.
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
That's just it. Cause he claimed Fadda only after Machado dropped him. I'm still going with fake. I keep hearing 'he's black belt level' it what is that being compared to?
And Fadda himself has been dead for years. But there must be former students who could tell us whether they've ever heard of him?
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
And Fadda himself has been dead for years. But there must be former students who could tell us whether they've ever heard of him?
He calls Edmilson Alves his teacher... who is 8th degree under fadda . But he posts "Fadda lineage"
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
There is a very good chance Lasu is a legit black belt and probably at least one or two stripes. By all accounts (even from people who swear he's crazy) his BJJ is at a black belt level.
That's unfortunate. It does line up with what folks have been saying on reddit, but the fact that there's no trace of who promoted him doesn't bode well. Per LLC filings, it looks like he already had a school in 2009/2010 (filed in 2009, but the Foursquare listing noted it was operating from 2010). Honestly, anyone training for at least 11 years with the right resources, and who could already pass off as a black belt to get affiliations by that point even, likely would have the grappling skills by now, especially if he'd been getting legit folks in to work with and rank. That doesn't mean anyone has promoted him though, and if no one promoted him, he's not a black belt.
Of note - this isn't the first claim I was able to find of a brown belt jumping ship to him just for rank either: http://68.67.68.181/index[...]_id=001777
(This link also mentions a Nova Uniao [Fadda Lineage] connection, so that might be the next part of the rabbit hole I chase)
Of note - this isn't the first claim I was able to find of a brown belt jumping ship to him just for rank either: http://68.67.68.181/index[...]_id=001777
(This link also mentions a Nova Uniao [Fadda Lineage] connection, so that might be the next part of the rabbit hole I chase)
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'd like yo know who promoted him? That would go a long way in resolving this.
I think that's the million dollar question, and unfortunately there's nothing in any Google search I've been able to turn up and the answer to that from former students who have interacted with me on other platforms seem to point to dead ends so far.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Moral of the story don't fuck with the jiu-jitsu community and present yourself as something that you are not. We will call you on it.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Moral of the story don't fuck with the jiu-jitsu community and present yourself as something that you are not. We will call you on it.
Amen to that!
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Of note - this isn't the first claim I was able to find of a brown belt jumping ship to him just for rank either
Oh lord Mark Bradford, I trained under him when I first got to Albuquerque in 2012, he told us he was promoted by Alberto Crane! I'm waiting to hear back from an old student of Lasu's to see who promoted Mark... Welcome to the full brunt of Albuquerque gym drama lol.
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Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
forget these guys. how about verifying my purple belt. it’s obvious something is fake about these guys
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
forget these guys. how about verifying my purple belt. it’s obvious something is fake about these guys
It worked for me earlier in the thread so I'd be a hypocrite not clicking yes for you.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
OK ONLY thing that i can think of is that he is ranking himself via the Japanese Jiujitsu rankings.. ONLY way he would have 7 degrees.
I want answers though...
I want answers though...
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
sooo I had to add my two cents to that thread on fb..... we'll see how this goes.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
sooo I had to add my two cents to that thread on fb..... we'll see how this goes.
That's gold!
"Much respect to you" doesn't really answer your questions though...
"Much respect to you" doesn't really answer your questions though...
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
sooo I had to add my two cents to that thread on fb..... we'll see how this goes.
Great response on FB!
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
What's the Facebook link? I WANT MORE DELICIOUS DRAMA! :P
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