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Fake Belt Masterthread
5 year(s) ago • 10194 views • 166 replies
Black belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
'can we just agree that both their age and the circumstances of the case make it less of an issue than...' Their age and the circumstances make it a non-issue, it was just the more vulgar members of the online BJJ community showing their vulgarity, as they are prone to do, and that kind of vulgar mob behavior should be called out. But as it was 9 years ago, those children are adults now, and hopefully not worse for the wear. 'the adult full out BJJ BB fakers mentioned in the thread?' At least on the adults mentioned, Jordan Tabor, was BJJ Internet mobbed for having his affiliation attempt to hit him for $2,000 after his black belt promotion, and then refusing to recognize his promotion after he refused to pay that affiliation fee, after the fact. Which is a story similar to the stories that many people here on Beltchecker, have reported happening to them. So, the court of public opinion is rarely just, and is rarely driven by facts, and reason, free from emotion, vulgarity, and bias. But, we may agree on other matters, at some point.
The irony being, the other thing Jordan Tabor was widely mocked for was writing that the IBJJF was operating in shady manners,
Which since the launch of Beltcheckers, many of the members here have voiced similar concerns and frustrations, about the IBJJF's business practices.
Of course, Jordan Tabor is a black guy, whose writing and verbal stylings are often in Hip Hop vernacular.
One wonders, if that had anything to do with people assuming that his situation, and story, even though sounding identical to the shake down stories so many other posters have made here...was somehow different.
Because he was likewise mocked by the online BJJ community for losing twice to Gordon Ryan, when Ryan was a purple belt.
But only those who had or have no serious understanding of Jiu-Jitsu, competition, and athletes like Ryan, would make fun of a competing black belt with an otherwise solid competition record for that.
So, I have to conclude that Jordan was online mocked by the BJJ community for being a black man, who speaks in an exuberant Hip Hop style,
and not because he claimed his affiliation tried to hit him up for $2,000 after the fact, regarding his black belt promotion,
and not for losing to Gordan Ryan twice,
and not for writing that the IBJJF has acted in a shady manner.
Because other than the black man / hip hop speech style, many of the members here have very similar stories, and they were not BJJ Internet Mob, mocked for it.
So, I think the BJJ Internet mob there, in the case of Jordan Tabor,
seems to have given themselves permission to let their inner racists come out,
and enjoy a good public online lynching, or throwing virtual cabbages at any body in stocks,
without regard to facts, truth, or what is just, and fair,
as if that would make them feel less shitty about their own selves, and their own demons,
and their own inadequacies.
Which since the launch of Beltcheckers, many of the members here have voiced similar concerns and frustrations, about the IBJJF's business practices.
Of course, Jordan Tabor is a black guy, whose writing and verbal stylings are often in Hip Hop vernacular.
One wonders, if that had anything to do with people assuming that his situation, and story, even though sounding identical to the shake down stories so many other posters have made here...was somehow different.
Because he was likewise mocked by the online BJJ community for losing twice to Gordon Ryan, when Ryan was a purple belt.
But only those who had or have no serious understanding of Jiu-Jitsu, competition, and athletes like Ryan, would make fun of a competing black belt with an otherwise solid competition record for that.
So, I have to conclude that Jordan was online mocked by the BJJ community for being a black man, who speaks in an exuberant Hip Hop style,
and not because he claimed his affiliation tried to hit him up for $2,000 after the fact, regarding his black belt promotion,
and not for losing to Gordan Ryan twice,
and not for writing that the IBJJF has acted in a shady manner.
Because other than the black man / hip hop speech style, many of the members here have very similar stories, and they were not BJJ Internet Mob, mocked for it.
So, I think the BJJ Internet mob there, in the case of Jordan Tabor,
seems to have given themselves permission to let their inner racists come out,
and enjoy a good public online lynching, or throwing virtual cabbages at any body in stocks,
without regard to facts, truth, or what is just, and fair,
as if that would make them feel less shitty about their own selves, and their own demons,
and their own inadequacies.
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Black beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
We had local NC legend James Paredes about a decade ago teaching BJJ at a local karate school. He got called out eventually and said that his style was more traditional even though he wore BJJ gis and had a BJJ black belt. But if you ever were wondering how to handle someone trying to choke you while you mounted them, then I've got the technique for you. https://www.youtube.com/w[...]dit.com%2F
Man I remember when this kicked off, I was purple belt at the time. Fucking classic, the lugnut hahahahaha. He duped quite a few students and ended up fully disappearing.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
It seems like it's not uncommon for practitioners of traditional martial arts who cross train in BJJ to get in trouble because they decide to wear a BJJ black belt with a red sleeve in place of their TMA black belt when their actual BJJ rank is much lower. BJJ belts are unique and no other martial art uses sleeves on the belts (though other styles do use stripes without the sleeves). I don't find it very plausible when someone claims, "Oh, that was my karate black belt you mistook for a Jiu-Jitsu belt," when there is a bright red sleeve on the belt (which is often tied around a BJJ gi, not a karate gi).
I'm certified to teach multiple martial arts systems and I have always been very careful to never mix up my belts while training (especially while teaching). In BJJ, I wear my black belt with the red sleeve, stripes, and professor's bars. In judo, I wear a plain black belt with no sleeve or stripes. In Jeet Kune Do or Krav Maga, I wear a t-shirt or a rash guard (since we don't have belts and we train in regular athletic clothes).
Cyberbullying people with dubious belts is not justified, of course, but I think that is a different issue. There are two questions at stake here: (1) is the BJJ belt they are wearing legitimate, and (2) how should we properly respond to people with dubious BJJ belts? We should respond to illegitimate belts with rational, evidence-based arguments and avoid fallacious personal attacks. I have found that Beltchecker is a lot better than most internet forums, which regularly feature fallacious personal attacks (the weapon of choice for the keyboard warrior). Sometimes, we might forget RULE #1 (be nice), but at least we have a RULE #1 to fall back on. Most internet forums are like Thunderdome.
I'm certified to teach multiple martial arts systems and I have always been very careful to never mix up my belts while training (especially while teaching). In BJJ, I wear my black belt with the red sleeve, stripes, and professor's bars. In judo, I wear a plain black belt with no sleeve or stripes. In Jeet Kune Do or Krav Maga, I wear a t-shirt or a rash guard (since we don't have belts and we train in regular athletic clothes).
Cyberbullying people with dubious belts is not justified, of course, but I think that is a different issue. There are two questions at stake here: (1) is the BJJ belt they are wearing legitimate, and (2) how should we properly respond to people with dubious BJJ belts? We should respond to illegitimate belts with rational, evidence-based arguments and avoid fallacious personal attacks. I have found that Beltchecker is a lot better than most internet forums, which regularly feature fallacious personal attacks (the weapon of choice for the keyboard warrior). Sometimes, we might forget RULE #1 (be nice), but at least we have a RULE #1 to fall back on. Most internet forums are like Thunderdome.
Black belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
It seems like it's not uncommon for practitioners of traditional martial arts who cross train in BJJ to get in trouble because they decide to wear a BJJ black belt with a red sleeve in place of their TMA black belt when their actual BJJ rank is much lower. BJJ belts are unique and no other martial art uses sleeves on the belts (though other styles do use stripes without the sleeves). I don't find it very plausible when someone claims, 'Oh, that was my karate black belt you mistook for a Jiu-Jitsu belt,' when there is a bright red sleeve on the belt (which is often tied around a BJJ gi, not a karate gi). I'm certified to teach multiple martial arts systems and I have always been very careful to never mix up my belts while training (especially while teaching). In BJJ, I wear my black belt with the red sleeve, stripes, and professor's bars. In judo, I wear a plain black belt with no sleeve or stripes. In Jeet Kune Do or Krav Maga, I wear a t-shirt or a rash guard (since we don't have belts and we train in regular athletic clothes). Cyberbullying people with dubious belts is not justified, of course, but I think that is a different issue. There are two questions at stake here: (1) is the BJJ belt they are wearing legitimate, and (2) how should we properly respond to people with dubious BJJ belts? We should respond to illegitimate belts with rational, evidence-based arguments and avoid fallacious personal attacks. I have found that Beltchecker is a lot better than most internet forums, which regularly feature fallacious personal attacks (the weapon of choice for the keyboard warrior). Sometimes, we might forget RULE #1 (be nice), but at least we have a RULE #1 to fall back on. Most internet forums are like Thunderdome.
Except at promotion ceremonies, where people need to get a picture with me for formal evidence,
I usually just wear a plain black belt, no bar, no stripes.
And if I go to someone else's school, I also bring a white belt,
and wear whichever one the school owner prefers.
I usually just wear a plain black belt, no bar, no stripes.
And if I go to someone else's school, I also bring a white belt,
and wear whichever one the school owner prefers.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Just to piggyback on what William and Jim are saying, I think it's important to communicate to others what your rank is, in that particular discipline.
For example, we have a bjj program and a judo program at our school, and I don't want to see bjj belts at judo class, nor do I want to see judo belts at bjj class, so I make an effort to wear my rank in one or the other in order to set a good example and avoid any confusion.
I've definitely had the experience of training at TMA dojos where they wear bjj gis with their TMA belts, and this has rarely been an issue.
For example, we have a bjj program and a judo program at our school, and I don't want to see bjj belts at judo class, nor do I want to see judo belts at bjj class, so I make an effort to wear my rank in one or the other in order to set a good example and avoid any confusion.
I've definitely had the experience of training at TMA dojos where they wear bjj gis with their TMA belts, and this has rarely been an issue.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Man I remember when this kicked off, I was purple belt at the time. Fucking classic, the lugnut hahahahaha. He duped quite a few students and ended up fully disappearing.
So I had moved to the Cary area and was looking for a place to train. I also taught Taekwondo at the time and class times never lined up since lunch BJJ wasn't really a thing at the time. I was working an event and Paredes came up and we started chatting. He said that he ran a class out of his house for free and I was welcome to train there. I tried one class and it was awful. The technique he showed was a strange choke and it wasn't working at all for anyone even when he did it on one of us. Then we didn't roll at the end. I never went back and a few years later he's on the Internet. He fell in with some other MMA weirdo in the area and passed away. I wasn't happy he died or anything, I was sad that we were going to miss out on a lot more hilarious content from him though.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
This one was a classic, Ruben Alvarez in Miami made this guy give him his fake belt. Guy couldn’t even shrimp or forward roll. Scroll down a bit to watch the video.
https://www.mixedmartiala[...]black-belt
https://www.mixedmartiala[...]black-belt
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Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
And then…there’s this guy: Renato Laranja, the “Borat of BJJ”. I think that’s “Honda Housey” in that picture.

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Black belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
And then…there’s this guy: Renato Laranja, the “Borat of BJJ”. I think that’s “Honda Housey” in that picture.
You can not make someone more legit than GM Renatch porra
Hespect is dead...that guy is 27 times world champ, a legend of our sportch
Hespect is dead...that guy is 27 times world champ, a legend of our sportch
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
You can not make someone more legit than GM Renatch porra Hespect is dead...that guy is 27 times world champ, a legend of our sportch
I can hear his voice when you type it like that.
Black beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I can hear his voice when you type it like that.
and for the folks who didn't know who he was CJI certainly was a brilliant introduction to him...
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Renato Laranja is a legit BB!
I don‘t know Renato, but…..
No doubt here.
I don‘t know Renato, but…..
No doubt here.
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
and for the folks who didn't know who he was CJI certainly was a brilliant introduction to him...
Shame on them ! Porra
He's did more for jiujitsu than Roycy Grace or Graig Jonesy is legendary journey should be told in every gym, to everyone, specialy for attractives ladys
He's did more for jiujitsu than Roycy Grace or Graig Jonesy is legendary journey should be told in every gym, to everyone, specialy for attractives ladys
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Shame on them ! Porra He's did more for jiujitsu than Roycy Grace or Graig Jonesy is legendary journey should be told in every gym, to everyone, specialy for attractives ladys
Caralho! If you don’t know bout’ Henato, den you probably smokes the heefers with Joe Hogan. Dat-a guy the real fake-a black beltch because he trains with Edgie Bravo an-a don’t wear the gi.
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Black belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Caralho! If you don’t know bout’ Henato, den you probably smokes the heefers with Joe Hogan. Dat-a guy the real fake-a black beltch because he trains with Edgie Bravo an-a don’t wear the gi.
You seems to be pretty aware of the truth... caralho....some guys are not what they claim to be.... like Vinny Ma...ga....magaleeech.....he's a piece of shit....

Black belt 1st degreeVerified
Black belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
This one was a classic, Ruben Alvarez in Miami made this guy give him his fake belt. Guy couldn’t even shrimp or forward roll. Scroll down a bit to watch the video. https://www.mixedmartiala[...]black-belt
I regard Ruben Alvarez fondly and with respect, but he and his circle are all aware that was not his best moment.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
The elusive secret agent James Nakamura should perhaps be added here. Allegedly claiming to be a Carlson Gracie BB, but none of Carlson's students seems to have heard of him and he isn't on Carlson's list of promoted BB:s.
https://www.beltchecker.c[...]amp;page=1
https://www.beltchecker.c[...]amp;page=1

Black belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
The elusive secret agent James Nakamura should perhaps be added here. Allegedly claiming to be a Carlson Gracie BB, but none of Carlson's students seems to have heard of him and he isn't on Carlson's list of promoted BB:s. https://www.beltchecker.c[...]amp;page=1
That’s correct. I called and emailed at least a dozen Carlsen Gracie academies and black belts here in SoCal and not a single one of them had even heard his name or knew who he was. That lineage goes deep in these parts too. Someone should know him.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
Black beltVerified
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Votes can be placed here: https://www.beltchecker.c[...]p?id=55074
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
3 month(s) ago
Is this the fake profile experiment someone suggested in another thread? 😂
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
I feel some „Lasu Rodgers vibes 😬…. https://smoothcomp.com/en[...]club/57807
That academy description is hilarious.
Black beltVerified
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
https://www.bjjglobetrott[...]l-members/
Has him listed and a section where you cant link to your own website he for some reason put a link to his acting: https://vimeo.com/15416459
Has him listed and a section where you cant link to your own website he for some reason put a link to his acting: https://vimeo.com/15416459
Black beltVerified
Black beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
https://www.bjjglobetrott[...]rs.com/faq
How do I get promoted?
BJJ Globetrotters does not enforce any framework for promotions within the affiliation. It is 100% up to the individual members.
Do you provide promotion for black belt degrees?
See above question. Beltchecker.com is also a good alternative for claiming black belt degrees based on time and verified by the BJJ community.
I think I deserve a promotion, but my own instructor is just not giving me that belt. Can you do it instead?
No. You will not find anyone who will promote other instructors’ students.
How do I get promoted?
BJJ Globetrotters does not enforce any framework for promotions within the affiliation. It is 100% up to the individual members.
Do you provide promotion for black belt degrees?
See above question. Beltchecker.com is also a good alternative for claiming black belt degrees based on time and verified by the BJJ community.
I think I deserve a promotion, but my own instructor is just not giving me that belt. Can you do it instead?
No. You will not find anyone who will promote other instructors’ students.
Brown beltVerified
3 month(s) ago
Votes can be placed here: https://www.beltchecker.c[...]p?id=55074
It’s a dead horse, isn’t it? Johan and others posted about him here in the same thread some sites before…. Profile of that dude then was gone….
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
3 month(s) ago
Holy cow what did I walk into with that profile?






