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Shoulder replacement surgery.
1 year(s) ago • 8364 views • 158 replies
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
7 months out from surgery, progress has been frustratingly slow, but still within the normal range, according to my PT team.
At this point, the overall function of my shoulder is probably a little better than before the surgery, albeit with far less pain, but I'm still very limited on what I can do with it.
My wife's family care physician says she doesn't usually see 100% recovery until ~18 months, which again, is frustrating, but I suppose there is some light at the end of the tunnel...
At this point, the overall function of my shoulder is probably a little better than before the surgery, albeit with far less pain, but I'm still very limited on what I can do with it.
My wife's family care physician says she doesn't usually see 100% recovery until ~18 months, which again, is frustrating, but I suppose there is some light at the end of the tunnel...
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Thank you for the update. I am actually at my preop now for my shoulder replacement in a month. Those are some positive updates. Have you been able to roll in the last 7 months at all? Also hows teaching and delivering JJ been?
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Have you been able to roll in the last 7 months at all? Also hows teaching and delivering JJ been?
Yes. I was rolling for a bit, maybe 3 months post-surgery, then I had a hip replacement that kept me off the mats for another 2 months or so. Now I'm back to rolling with everyone... as much as I can anyway.
Nothing's really kept me from teaching and coaching though; I was coaching my students at a tournament 2 days after surgery, and otherwise heckling everyone from the sidelines during classes. I've been able to demo technique since about 6 weeks post-surgery.
I expect to be back to competing again by winter, 2026.
Best of luck with your surgery. Even with all the frustrations, I can't say i regret it. It had to be done, and I'm sure you're probably in the same boat.
Please keep us updated with your progress on this thread!
Nothing's really kept me from teaching and coaching though; I was coaching my students at a tournament 2 days after surgery, and otherwise heckling everyone from the sidelines during classes. I've been able to demo technique since about 6 weeks post-surgery.
I expect to be back to competing again by winter, 2026.
Best of luck with your surgery. Even with all the frustrations, I can't say i regret it. It had to be done, and I'm sure you're probably in the same boat.
Please keep us updated with your progress on this thread!
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Sounds good sir. Thats some good news all around for me man, thanks. A hip replacement after a shoulder man I thought I had it bad lol. Stay strong man I’ll keep you updated.
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hey, brother quick question. Can you or do you think you will be able to do all the major lifts again? Deadlift Bench press shoulder pressetc. pull ups or chin ups? I appreciate your time.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hey, brother quick question. Can you or do you think you will be able to do all the major lifts again? Deadlift Bench press shoulder pressetc. pull ups or chin ups? I appreciate your time.
I'm already doing them :).
I probably should have included this in my progress report, but the other day I benched 120, squatted 160 and deadlifted 190.
I'm not really able to do shoulder presses yet, but I'm able to get some reps with a 15lb resistance band.
I've always been very strong with pull-ups, and right now I'm getting bodyweight (~175lbs) +25lbs for about 8 reps.
For reference, I was unable to bench, press or do pull-ups prior to surgery. Squat was maybe around 225, and deadlift <300.
I probably should have included this in my progress report, but the other day I benched 120, squatted 160 and deadlifted 190.
I'm not really able to do shoulder presses yet, but I'm able to get some reps with a 15lb resistance band.
I've always been very strong with pull-ups, and right now I'm getting bodyweight (~175lbs) +25lbs for about 8 reps.
For reference, I was unable to bench, press or do pull-ups prior to surgery. Squat was maybe around 225, and deadlift <300.
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Thanks man, this sounds promising.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
Heal up rest and continue the physical therapy that's where I'm at with my labrum repair surgery
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
I am in with the specialist to discuss my options. Torn labrum and severe bone on bone osteoarthritis with the usual amount of damage.
Was hoping a replacement would allow me to roll with trusted friends and coach. However a black belt friend of mine has been told that BJJ for someone with a shoulder replacement is a no because if it breaks it could be life threatening.
To be honest since finding out how bad the damage has been this has become an emotional rollercoaster. When I read something that says it will be OK to train in a limited fashion I am fine, but when I hear the opposite it is depressing.
Was hoping a replacement would allow me to roll with trusted friends and coach. However a black belt friend of mine has been told that BJJ for someone with a shoulder replacement is a no because if it breaks it could be life threatening.
To be honest since finding out how bad the damage has been this has become an emotional rollercoaster. When I read something that says it will be OK to train in a limited fashion I am fine, but when I hear the opposite it is depressing.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
...a black belt friend of mine has been told that BJJ for someone with a shoulder replacement is a no because if it breaks it could be life threatening...
Might be worth it to get a couple more professional opinions. My surgeon didn't put any restrictions on me at all, and I'm back to rolling, taking falls, etc.
I would talk to your doctor and see what kind of replacement they do, as that may impact your ability to do bjj.
For example, my surgeon has been using a stemless implant for the past 2 years or so. Since it doesn't have a stem, there's less risk if I break my humerus, as there's not a metal rod going down the center of it.
Personally, I wouldn't accept "never doing bjj again" as an answer.
I would talk to your doctor and see what kind of replacement they do, as that may impact your ability to do bjj.
For example, my surgeon has been using a stemless implant for the past 2 years or so. Since it doesn't have a stem, there's less risk if I break my humerus, as there's not a metal rod going down the center of it.
Personally, I wouldn't accept "never doing bjj again" as an answer.
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Yeah because not training ever again ain’t happening. I’d tell that doc to pick off lol. I can see competing but training…. You will be good. Especially if you are young. My surgery is in less than two weeks
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
Oh yea no I mean you should be able train again, I'm just working on strength triangle after surgery and I'm just hitting my 5th month post op with at least 1 to maybe 2 tell fully released ans I've rolled with several people with multiple types shoulder surgery and all back to rolling full time just have take easy ans slow don't push it
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
As the consultant yesterday and he says the shoulder needs replacing. He wants to do an anatomical full replacement but says no BJJ when done.
His analogy was if you buy a fancy sports car and only drive it on weekends and wash it before storing it for the week in a garage it will last for years. If you take the same car do your commute to work putting 40000 miles on the clock annually and every now and then drive it on a track day that same car will wear out quickly.
My intention when done is to get the rehab done and to concentrate of coaching.. when it feels up for it I will roll from time to time with some trusted friends just to keep my sanity but I will be aware that I will be effectively shortening the life of the shoulder.
His analogy was if you buy a fancy sports car and only drive it on weekends and wash it before storing it for the week in a garage it will last for years. If you take the same car do your commute to work putting 40000 miles on the clock annually and every now and then drive it on a track day that same car will wear out quickly.
My intention when done is to get the rehab done and to concentrate of coaching.. when it feels up for it I will roll from time to time with some trusted friends just to keep my sanity but I will be aware that I will be effectively shortening the life of the shoulder.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
I am in with the specialist to discuss my options. Torn labrum and severe bone on bone osteoarthritis with the usual amount of damage. Was hoping a replacement would allow me to roll with trusted friends and coach. However a black belt friend of mine has been told that BJJ for someone with a shoulder replacement is a no because if it breaks it could be life threatening. To be honest since finding out how bad the damage has been this has become an emotional rollercoaster. When I read something that says it will be OK to train in a limited fashion I am fine, but when I hear the opposite it is depressing.
Hi hi, was just reading this because shoulder replacement operations are my favourite at work (i am a OR RN and have neen part of hundreds of replacements & revisions) as some one who has had the implants in her hands and been part of ones that have failed (revisions) it is NOT life threatening. Yes you may bleed a lot if it severs an artery but thats unlikely given muscle strength which what holds most of it together. Other than a arterial bleed there aint nothing left to be classed as life threatening. Head up. Never give up. Listen to your body. Rest sufficiently and take your time. All the best
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hello sir, hey I appreciate this. Heading in on Thursday. Ready for a better quality of life.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hello sir, hey I appreciate this. Heading in on Thursday. Ready for a better quality of life.
Hihihihi i habe never been called sir before hahaha i think ma‘am is better suited but the main thing is you get better and dont let the mind demons haunt you - f&!“ the rest.
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
My apologies the only thing I saw was the message lol. Hope I didn’t offend. Yes again and thank you for your info. Makes me feel better going in to this.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hahah bo worries, us English aren’t offended that essily. You got this! I believe in medicine all the way but a Positive mindset works wonders too!
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
As the consultant yesterday and he says the shoulder needs replacing. He wants to do an anatomical full replacement but says no BJJ when done. His analogy was if you buy a fancy sports car and only drive it on weekends and wash it before storing it for the week in a garage it will last for years. If you take the same car do your commute to work putting 40000 miles on the clock annually and every now and then drive it on a track day that same car will wear out quickly. My intention when done is to get the rehab done and to concentrate of coaching.. when it feels up for it I will roll from time to time with some trusted friends just to keep my sanity but I will be aware that I will be effectively shortening the life of the shoulder.
That must be some devastating news for you, and I'm sorry that his conclusion was "no BJJ". Obviously, he is the expert at what he does, and his opinion should be respected, but in my experience, most people who have never done BJJ don't really understand how adaptable BJJ can be in practice: you can modify quite a bit of it and still be able to roll/train/learn etc. At this point in time, you've probably already changed your "game" quite a bit out of necessity in order to accommodate your limitations, and I don't think this would be any different with an implant.
Here's the train of logic on which I'm using to base my choices: I went into my discussions with my various doctors telling them right off the bat that I plan to return to BJJ/Judo, and I relied on them to give me their best estimate on my outcome(s). My shoulder doc says that with my activity level, I can expect my new shoulder to last roughly 10 years. The data he's using to base this statement on, however, is old data, as the newer implants just keep getting better and better, as do the revisions, so it's possible, if not likely that the shoulder will last even longer.
I think that life itself is full of "what if" scenarios, and if we make decisions solely on what is the absolutely safest bet, we're constantly losing out on a fuller experience. Of course, it's not entirely prudent to just throw caution to the wind, as a shorter life isn't typically a fuller one, so you have to find a middle ground.
The way I look at it, if my shoulder lasts 10 years, I'll get a revision, and it probably won't be as good. However, I know that I will most likely be less able than I am now in 10 years anyway, and as long as I can avoid living my life in tons of pain, I think it's worth it. For me, rolling/sparring is easily the most fun part of BJJ, so to use your sports car analogy, I need the sports car to do what I love to do, which is put 40000 miles on it. lol.
I think your approach to your new relationship with your new shoulder and BJJ will evolve over time, and you'll also be able to find a middle ground that works for you.
Best of luck with your surgery, and please keep us updated on this thread!
Here's the train of logic on which I'm using to base my choices: I went into my discussions with my various doctors telling them right off the bat that I plan to return to BJJ/Judo, and I relied on them to give me their best estimate on my outcome(s). My shoulder doc says that with my activity level, I can expect my new shoulder to last roughly 10 years. The data he's using to base this statement on, however, is old data, as the newer implants just keep getting better and better, as do the revisions, so it's possible, if not likely that the shoulder will last even longer.
I think that life itself is full of "what if" scenarios, and if we make decisions solely on what is the absolutely safest bet, we're constantly losing out on a fuller experience. Of course, it's not entirely prudent to just throw caution to the wind, as a shorter life isn't typically a fuller one, so you have to find a middle ground.
The way I look at it, if my shoulder lasts 10 years, I'll get a revision, and it probably won't be as good. However, I know that I will most likely be less able than I am now in 10 years anyway, and as long as I can avoid living my life in tons of pain, I think it's worth it. For me, rolling/sparring is easily the most fun part of BJJ, so to use your sports car analogy, I need the sports car to do what I love to do, which is put 40000 miles on it. lol.
I think your approach to your new relationship with your new shoulder and BJJ will evolve over time, and you'll also be able to find a middle ground that works for you.
Best of luck with your surgery, and please keep us updated on this thread!
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
That must be some devastating news for you, and I'm sorry that his conclusion was "no BJJ". Obviously, he is the expert at what he does, and his opinion should be respected, but in my experience, most people who have never done BJJ don't really understand how adaptable BJJ can be in practice: you can modify quite a bit of it and still be able to roll/train/learn etc. At this point in time, you've probably already changed your "game" quite a bit out of necessity in order to accommodate your limitations, and I don't think this would be any different with an implant. Here's the train of logic on which I'm using to base my choices: I went into my discussions with my various doctors telling them right off the bat that I plan to return to BJJ/Judo, and I relied on them to give me their best estimate on my outcome(s). My shoulder doc says that with my activity level, I can expect my new shoulder to last roughly 10 years. The data he's using to base this statement on, however, is old data, as the newer implants just keep getting better and better, as do the revisions, so it's possible, if not likely that the shoulder will last even longer. I think that life itself is full of "what if" scenarios, and if we make decisions solely on what is the absolutely safest bet, we're constantly losing out on a fuller experience. Of course, it's not entirely prudent to just throw caution to the wind, as a shorter life isn't typically a fuller one, so you have to find a middle ground. The way I look at it, if my shoulder lasts 10 years, I'll get a revision, and it probably won't be as good. However, I know that I will most likely be less able than I am now in 10 years anyway, and as long as I can avoid living my life in tons of pain, I think it's worth it. For me, rolling/sparring is easily the most fun part of BJJ, so to use your sports car analogy, I need the sports car to do what I love to do, which is put 40000 miles on it. lol. I think your approach to your new relationship with your new shoulder and BJJ will evolve over time, and you'll also be able to find a middle ground that works for you. Best of luck with your surgery, and please keep us updated on this thread!
Thanks.
Once it is functionally strong I won’t be able to stop myself from training. However I will be very careful of who and what I train to maximise how long I get out of the new shoulder.
Once it is functionally strong I won’t be able to stop myself from training. However I will be very careful of who and what I train to maximise how long I get out of the new shoulder.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Bobby thanks for sharing you experience.. I was told I needed complete replacement 8 years ago. I was waiting until I was done competing but i am seeing I may not have to wait till I am done competing before getting it done
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Bobby thanks for sharing you experience.. I was told I needed complete replacement 8 years ago. I was waiting until I was done competing but i am seeing I may not have to wait till I am done competing before getting it done
With all of your...ahem..."milage", Phil, you'd be super lucky to just need one joint replacement. lol.
From personal experience of years of competing on 2 joints that needed to be replaced, there are definitely a handful of matches that stand out where I'm positive I would have won, had I had fully functional joints. The last few months before my surgeries, I just stopped competing altogether, as it was getting a little ridiculous, even against mostly older opponents.
I'm really optimistic that I can get back into it in a few months, and start actually winning again. Hopefully you'll be able to do the same!
From personal experience of years of competing on 2 joints that needed to be replaced, there are definitely a handful of matches that stand out where I'm positive I would have won, had I had fully functional joints. The last few months before my surgeries, I just stopped competing altogether, as it was getting a little ridiculous, even against mostly older opponents.
I'm really optimistic that I can get back into it in a few months, and start actually winning again. Hopefully you'll be able to do the same!
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
With all of your...ahem..."milage", Phil, you'd be super lucky to just need one joint replacement. lol. From personal experience of years of competing on 2 joints that needed to be replaced, there are definitely a handful of matches that stand out where I'm positive I would have won, had I had fully functional joints. The last few months before my surgeries, I just stopped competing altogether, as it was getting a little ridiculous, even against mostly older opponents. I'm really optimistic that I can get back into it in a few months, and start actually winning again. Hopefully you'll be able to do the same!
I suspect after surgery even with the best recovery there will be limitations that will affect our performance but at least after a few rounds we won’t need tramadol to get to sleep. 😂
Keep us up to date with how you progress. I will do the same when I have my surgery at least that way people who read this thread can use it to help there decision making.
Keep us up to date with how you progress. I will do the same when I have my surgery at least that way people who read this thread can use it to help there decision making.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hello sir, hey I appreciate this. Heading in on Thursday. Ready for a better quality of life.
Hey hey how did it go??
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Hey thank you for asking. Home now resting. So far so good but it’s only day one. I will def get back to you tomorrow night and keep yall updated on this journey. I’m going to the gym tomorrow to do some post op PT and coach my athletes for IBJJF St Louis coming up. Cant keep me down lol.
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
So I’m definitely staying home. The block wore off and my shoulder is spicy AF. Pain meds ice and rest. Going to try and coach Sunday at open mats. Robert, when does the post pain subside, homie? Hope yall have a great day on the mats.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
So I’m definitely staying home. The block wore off and my shoulder is spicy AF... Robert, when does the post pain subside, homie?
I remember being caught completely off guard after my first shoulder surgery when the block wore off. Woke up in excruciating pain, but was ready for it the second time around.
Personally, I noticed an improvement in some regards after the first day, but I'm sure painkillers had something to do with it.
You should feel way better on day 3 though. Just take the pain meds and you'll get through it!
Personally, I noticed an improvement in some regards after the first day, but I'm sure painkillers had something to do with it.
You should feel way better on day 3 though. Just take the pain meds and you'll get through it!
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Guess I should post this milestone: I got 2 plates on the bar today for bench press. Hit 135 (~60kg) for about 7 reps.
I know it's not super impressive, but this is like a 3+yr PR for me.
I'm now almost exactly 7 months post-surgery.
I know it's not super impressive, but this is like a 3+yr PR for me.
I'm now almost exactly 7 months post-surgery.
Black beltVerified
1 year(s) ago
So I’m definitely staying home. The block wore off and my shoulder is spicy AF. Pain meds ice and rest. Going to try and coach Sunday at open mats. Robert, when does the post pain subside, homie? Hope yall have a great day on the mats.
From a nursing POV its important to stick to the pain meds schedule for the first few days, to allow you to move. Some pain meds need a certain drug level to obtain full effectiveness. If you only take it sporadically and when the pain is already there its too late: being pain free allows you to have more movement hence wider range of movement than you would do that if it hurt, brain/body want to protect you from pain so it will say „ouch, move no more“ - unless you’re a Goggins type and you like the pain or can work through it 🫣😂
May i ask what type of pain meds you have??
May i ask what type of pain meds you have??
FrankieOP
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
1 year(s) ago
Tramadol and hydrocodone ice packs 4 every 4 hours. I been super on schedule.


