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Skilled Black Belts who were nefarious criminals

6 year(s) ago • 37574 views • 177 replies

R. David Gonzalez
R. David GonzalezOP
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6 year(s) ago
He was billed as a Joe Son Do master if I remember correctly haha
I think you are right! Lol That guy was off the rails.
Adam Meindel
Adam Meindel
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3925/1000
6 year(s) ago
I remember Marcus "Conan" Silveira got busted w/ drugs a while back. Apparently his brother Marcelo and thirteen other people were accused of being part of a drug smuggling ring that was responsible for bringing in over a million ecstasy pills.

I don't think he did much prison time for it, though.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David GonzalezOP
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6 year(s) ago
I remember Marcus 'Conan' Silveira got busted w/ drugs a while back. Apparently his brother Marcelo and thirteen other people were accused of being part of a drug smuggling ring that was responsible for bringing in over a million ecstasy pills. I don't think he did much prison time for it, though.
I remember that as well.. Forgot about him
Adam Meindel
Adam Meindel
Black belt 1st degreeVerified150 forum posts3925/1000
6 year(s) ago
I remember that as well.. Forgot about him
Yeah, I don't know if I'd classify him as a 'nefarious criminal'. I guess it depends on who you ask. lol
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
6 year(s) ago
Unfortunatly just because you get good at techniques and have great attributes you can miss all the other lessons the srts teach,,, We see child molestors in every martial art but also in every endeavor in life
Justin Polette
Justin Polette
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified137 forum posts2975/1000
6 year(s) ago
Joe Son - Convicted of vandalism, rape, torture and voluntary manslaughter. Sentenced to life imprisonment. Was in UFC 4 and faced Keith Hackney. Don't think he was a jiu jitsu black belt but rather Tae Kwon Do. At any rate, he's the worst I can think of. Also 'skilled' would be debatable.
Random Task got his junk pulverized. Joe Son Do was......unimpressive.
Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts7195/1000
6 year(s) ago
Just read an article about Claudio Do Val alleges that Ricardo De La Riva raped her in 2015. Not saying this allegation is true in any way but it fits this forum thread. I will keep my opinion to myself as it is just another useless opinion. https://www.bjjee.com/bjj[...]ual-abuse/ https://thebodylockmma.co[...]ual-abuse/
This popped up on the forum yesterday but it seems to have been deleted.

Here is De La Rivas response:

https://www.bjjheroes.com[...]A7CWTKrP0o
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
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6 year(s) ago
Didn't judge anything, but a "she's ungrateful" defense in a hierarchical power relationship makes all my alarm bells go off.
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1367 forum posts11320/1000
6 year(s) ago
a little quick to judge, no? lol
Do Val's video interview where she tells the story appears credible... Or she is delirious, vengeful and a very good actress/liar.

https://youtu.be/YSayInaGWc4?t=3005

DLR's rebuttal is mostly listing his compliments in jiujitsu.

Apparently DLR is taking legal action and Do Val has at least the messages she is referring to saved, so probably we will hear more of this.
Hard to believe Do Val would be making this up in front of a camera. (But will be difficult for her to produce any solid evidence either tho.)

I've met both, and liked them, so this is extremely unfortunate news.
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Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
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6 year(s) ago
DLR's rebuttal is mostly listing his compliments in jiujitsu.
This.

"He took advantage of me"
"I am actually pretty important and she is ungrateful"
Pål Magnus Bjørlo
Pål Magnus Bjørlo
Black beltVerified51 forum posts3765/1000
6 year(s) ago
There was a bunch of them here in Scandinavia back in the days.. Mostly related to robberys and "debt collecting". it had died out anyway..
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2144 forum posts26055/1000
6 year(s) ago
It will be interesting to see if the situation occurred as Claudia says,

or it was a consensual affair with buyers remorse by one or both parties,

or it did not happen and was a publicity stunt / extortion attempt.

Claudia made a serious allegation,

the WhatsApp messages will clarify which of the three scenarios actually occurred,

And being that Claudia claims she has the WhatsApp messages,

she should bring them forward.

In fact, I would argue that at this point she has a duty to.

And if the matter goes to court, the court will likely compel her to.

In which case either of them guilty of lying is going to get their ass handed to them.

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William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2144 forum posts26055/1000
6 year(s) ago
Christian, I suggest that you make a forum section, if you like, called Investigations.

Investigations will always violate part of the spirit of civility that you wish here, and that has proven to be a good.

But, this will not be the last accusation or investigation.

And, there is some relevancy to investigations of many kinds, as it relates to affirmations of rank decisions.

In the vulgar parlance, "it is part of the business" of beltchecking, for those that consider moral character a component of affirming a rank, isn't it.
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Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
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6 year(s) ago
Referring to forum rule "Be nice", I cleaned up a little bit, including some of my own posts (and posts quoting the deleted stuff).

Have a wonderful evening :)
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William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2144 forum posts26055/1000
6 year(s) ago
Referring to forum rule 'Be nice', I cleaned up a little bit, including some of my own posts (and posts quoting the deleted stuff). Have a wonderful evening :)
Ah, the pleasures of a Benevolent Dictator.

We are very lucky that the trains run on time.

We have thus learned from this experiment.

And, what have you learned about yourself...

It is a deep, deep, Rabbit hole.

Good Luck.


R. David Gonzalez
R. David GonzalezOP
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6 year(s) ago
Ah, the pleasures of a Benevolent Dictator. We are very lucky that the trains run on time. We have thus learned from this experiment. And, what have you learned about yourself... It is a deep, deep, Rabbit hole. Good Luck.
Pay homage to the beltchecker hiearchy. Lol
Do you have your papers? Hmm, your papers are not in order. You will accompany me, No? :-)

All joking aside.. Being nice never hurts
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