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Re-verifying after updating non-current belts

6 year(s) ago • 415 views • 9 replies

Richard Garrett
Richard Garrett
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6 year(s) ago
Hi all,

Just had my facebook memories pop up where I had a post from my first BJJ class. Originally when I made my profile here I didn't know 100 percent the exact date, so I ballparked it.

Now that I have updated the date to the accurate start date, I have to have my whole profile re-verified. Seems odd that making changes which have no effect on my current rank means full brown belt re-verification is required (including all the points). I get that those who had voted for me will be notified to re-vote, but doesn't make much sense to redo the entire thing when I have only adjusted a start date on an old belt.

Anyone else with thoughts on this?
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39315/1000
6 year(s) ago
I believe it does indeed make sense that every change must be re-verified by those who voted for you. Imagine someone having been a blue belt for 6 months getting verified. Then he changes the dates to look like he's been a blue belt for 10 years in order to convince someone to promote him earlier. Or a verified black belt who backdates his promotion 10 years and then can claim 3 degrees on his belt :)
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1043 forum posts59560/1000
6 year(s) ago
I did it to and honestly it's no big thing compared to what the IBJJF makes you do to verify.. It's actually reasonable
Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts6820/1000
6 year(s) ago
Yeah I have a cool photo that I have just found from my blue belt promotion that I was gonna add but then realised that it requires re-verification so i didn't bother. It does make sense to do this though otherwise people could get their profile verified on certain information and then change it later to deceive people. So it makes sense.
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39315/1000
6 year(s) ago
Yeah I have a cool photo that I have just found from my blue belt promotion that I was gonna add but then realised that it requires re-verification so i didn't bother. It does make sense to do this though otherwise people could get their profile verified on certain information and then change it later to deceive people. So it makes sense.
Adding a photo does not trigger revérification :) only changing dates, who promoted you or what belts you’ve received :)
Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts6820/1000
6 year(s) ago
Adding a photo does not trigger revérification :) only changing dates, who promoted you or what belts you’ve received :)
Thanks that's good to know!
Richard Garrett
Richard GarrettOP
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6 year(s) ago
I believe it does indeed make sense that every change must be re-verified by those who voted for you. Imagine someone having been a blue belt for 6 months getting verified. Then he changes the dates to look like he's been a blue belt for 10 years in order to convince someone to promote him earlier. Or a verified black belt who backdates his promotion 10 years and then can claim 3 degrees on his belt :)
I totally agree that should be necessary if someone has updated dates of their current rank. All black belt degrees should be grouped as a a 'current rank' for this purpose too to avoid the backdating issue.

But if someone has been verified as a purple belt, why would it make a difference if they adjusted their date they received their blue belt. They have already been verified as a purple belt so I don't see how it matters if they now change it so they've been a blue belt 10 years. Hopefully people aren't verifying simply because of the time spent at early belts.
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39315/1000
6 year(s) ago
I totally agree that should be necessary if someone has updated dates of their current rank. All black belt degrees should be grouped as a a 'current rank' for this purpose too to avoid the backdating issue. But if someone has been verified as a purple belt, why would it make a difference if they adjusted their date they received their blue belt. They have already been verified as a purple belt so I don't see how it matters if they now change it so they've been a blue belt 10 years. Hopefully people aren't verifying simply because of the time spent at early belts.
What if you're a blue belt and had been training for one year, but backdates your white belt 8 years back before you start in a new gym. That's not trustworthy, regardless of your current rank.

Long story short; all verified promotion histories must be trusted to be correct. So any changes must be re-verified. Then someone will have to wait half a day or a day for people to reconfirm their already cast votes, it's not a big trade off compared to ensuring that everything is being checked :)
Richard Garrett
Richard GarrettOP
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6 year(s) ago
What if you're a blue belt and had been training for one year, but backdates your white belt 8 years back before you start in a new gym. That's not trustworthy, regardless of your current rank. Long story short; all verified promotion histories must be trusted to be correct. So any changes must be re-verified. Then someone will have to wait half a day or a day for people to reconfirm their already cast votes, it's not a big trade off compared to ensuring that everything is being checked :)
Fair enough. That makes sense.
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39315/1000
6 year(s) ago
Glad I managed to explain it. I can only imagine the system and logistics of it is kind of complicated to understand just in the beginning; it took me many months of thinking about it in my brain before I finally figured out how I imagined it would work :D
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