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The Frauds Are Getting Nervous

6 year(s) ago • 1198 views • 24 replies

Daniël Bertina
Daniël Bertina
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified880 forum posts15560/1000
6 year(s) ago
No training. So we're back to investigating.

Wheels are being set in motion.

Evidence is being gathered.

Frauds beware!
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
6 year(s) ago
I've been a fraud my whole life, and I am not nervous.

Except when I eat really questionably old leftovers.

Which I do frequently, it's part of my Dad duties to eat the leftovers nobody else eats in the fridge.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4764 forum posts34325/1000
6 year(s) ago
I've been a fraud my whole life, and I am not nervous. Except when I eat really questionably old leftovers. Which I do frequently, it's part of my Dad duties to eat the leftovers nobody else eats in the fridge.
I think everyone is a fraud. Lol
I believe what is written in the photo I am posting on here.
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
6 year(s) ago
I think everyone is a fraud. Lol I believe what is written in the photo I am posting on here.
Then there is a fourth face, that no one sees, not even ourselves.
Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified1772 forum posts17315/1000
6 year(s) ago
I think that's bollocks :D I've been a terrible liar whole my life, keeping up facades is way too tiring waste of energy. Playing with open cards all the time you never have to worry about someone finding out something and then you can focus on stuff that really matters to you.

Figuring out some inner fears and complexes that's a bit different matter of course, it's about getting older and realising what kind of an insecure idiot you've been - for me that's been a constant ongoing realisation since teenage years basically but hey, at least that's an interesting trip...
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
6 year(s) ago
I think that's bollocks :D I've been a terrible liar whole my life, keeping up facades is way too tiring waste of energy. Playing with open cards all the time you never have to worry about someone finding out something and then you can focus on stuff that really matters to you. Figuring out some inner fears and complexes that's a bit different matter of course, it's about getting older and realising what kind of an insecure idiot you've been - for me that's been a constant ongoing realisation since teenage years basically but hey, at least that's an interesting trip...
It's the lies we tell ourselves that are the most troublesome.

Sometimes, we even manage to get others to believe or act as if they were true.

Humans, including ourselves, are such excellent liars.
Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified1772 forum posts17315/1000
6 year(s) ago
Humans, including ourselves, are such excellent liars.
One of the hypotheses is that lying and detection of lying is one of the arms races that drove the increase in intelligence / abstract thinking in the social leap ~100k years ago.

At the same time we are gullible and kind and gentle to our perceived kin giving all the benefits of doubts...
Chris Baker
Chris Baker
Brown beltVerified573 forum posts3175/700
6 year(s) ago
Humans, including ourselves, are such excellent liars.
I honestly disagree with this completely. There is a difference between being a "good liar" and being very good at convincing yourself of something that is not true or finding someone in a desparate sitution who will believe everything that gives them hope. Unfortunately most of the serious cases of the most successful frauds are examples of the latter and not the former.

Perfect example would be the Yellow Bamboo Group or honestly any of the Ki Masters you see on McDojo Life. Claiming to repell people with Mystic Energy is the definition of a terrible lie, but when you look at the videos in YouTube, they always draw large groups. But People Desprately want to believe this stuff and they'll cling to anyone who tells them it is true, regardless of how rediculus the lie is.
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
6 year(s) ago
I honestly disagree with this completely. There is a difference between being a 'good liar' and being very good at convincing yourself of something that is not true or finding someone in a desparate sitution who will believe everything that gives them hope. Unfortunately most of the serious cases of the most successful frauds are examples of the latter and not the former. Perfect example would be the Yellow Bamboo Group or honestly any of the Ki Masters you see on McDojo Life. Claiming to repell people with Mystic Energy is the definition of a terrible lie, but when you look at the videos in YouTube, they always draw large groups. But People Desprately want to believe this stuff and they'll cling to anyone who tells them it is true, regardless of how rediculus the lie is.
What about the old, "most fights go to the ground"...?

That was a great lie.

It got us a lot of members, and rolled off the tongue quite easily.
Carl-magnus Fossum
Carl-Magnus Fossum
Blue beltVerified2 forum posts720/200
6 year(s) ago
Then there is a fourth face, that no one sees, not even ourselves.
"The Fourth Face"

Sounds like a suspense thriller/horror movie about a mental hospital in the styling of something like Inception.
Mirco
Mirco
Brown beltVerified805 forum posts5075/700
6 year(s) ago
I think that's bollocks :D I've been a terrible liar whole my life, keeping up facades is way too tiring waste of energy. Playing with open cards all the time you never have to worry about someone finding out something and then you can focus on stuff that really matters to you. Figuring out some inner fears and complexes that's a bit different matter of course, it's about getting older and realising what kind of an insecure idiot you've been - for me that's been a constant ongoing realisation since teenage years basically but hey, at least that's an interesting trip...
Well written Matsi!
Roy Rolstad
Roy Rolstad
Brown beltVerified72 forum posts1865/700
6 year(s) ago
The four faces can be compared to the four stages of competence (knowledge).

1. Unconscious incompetence (The things you don’t know that you don’t know).
2. Conscious incompetence (The things that you know that you don’t know).
3. Conscious competence (The things you know that you know).
4. Unconscious competence (The things that you don’t know that you know).

My experience is that most BJJ people are in all of those stages of competence. And it’s really dynamic. It all depends on who I’m rolling with, and how my shape is at the given moment.

The beautiful thing about BJJ is that sometimes I feel like a genius wizard, other times like a complete idiot.

“If you don’t roll, you don’t know"

My point of posting this in this thread is that in some cases I believe that the guys who’s claiming some kind of belt in BJJ (or any MA) don’t realize how bad they’re BJJ actually is.
The beautiful thing about BJJ, compered to other MA is that it can be tested in a safe way.

I believe that BJJ is the most honest MA.

If you are a fake BJJ blackbelt, living in a bubble, not questioned by anyone. You will be shocked the day you roll with a legit black belt.

"The difference between knowledge and skill is training. And the difference between skill and mastery is time"
-Roger Gracie
Sebastien Lavoie
Sebastien Lavoie
Black beltVerified76 forum posts3230/1000
6 year(s) ago
What about the old, 'most fights go to the ground'...? That was a great lie. It got us a lot of members, and rolled off the tongue quite easily.
This can be contextually true however....
William Murphy
William Murphy
Black belt 5th degreeVerified2143 forum posts25730/1000
6 year(s) ago
This can be contextually true however....
Sure it can.

Then again, almost all fights start standing,

and a shit load of them are sucker punches,

many of which end the fight before it really begins.
James Jones
James Jones
Black beltVerified1309 forum posts6475/1000
6 year(s) ago
For some reason in my head when you said Canada I was listening to "Were not going to take it" and heard it as "Were not aboot to take it...noooo were not aboot to take it anymore.".
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Anthony Restuccia
Anthony Restuccia
Black beltVerified650 forum posts12595/1000
6 year(s) ago
For some reason in my head when you said Canada I was listening to 'Were not going to take it' and heard it as 'Were not aboot to take it...noooo were not aboot to take it.'.
That's so strange. Especially seeing as how I've never ever heard anyone in my entire life (45 years), having live all of it in Canada, say aboot...
Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified1772 forum posts17315/1000
6 year(s) ago
So... Birattari is yet to answer my message in weeks about Sharkawa... maybe disputes would grab his attention faster :)
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1043 forum posts59560/1000
6 year(s) ago
What about the old, 'most fights go to the ground'...? That was a great lie. It got us a lot of members, and rolled off the tongue quite easily.
I am a former kickboxer... I always said cool most fights may well go to the ground but they all start on the feet... When I knock you out you go to the ground

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