https://www.youtube.com/w[...]toXAhwGmbk

Man, I remember watching that show with my grandma as a kid.

That thing never dies.

The top 6 votes were from black belts, 1 of whom contacted the promoting professor to verify the promotion, but scrolling a little further down there were other black belts (from the same country) claiming that this person is not a legit black belt.

Italian Now I have to find the Australian with initials GK O.o

That is a VERY long thread, but thanks for the link It was an interesting read I think a forum or even a thread dedicated to such discussions would be great

haha, nuance is easy to be lost in text, but I assumed it was meant in a joking manner legitimately though, thanks for the link, I probably wouldn't have found that info otherwise

Also - another call for INVESTIGATIONS subforum, I think William is the original proposer of the idea :) )

It is because one can expect that investigations and belt disputes will not only be long, but by definition will full of ad hominem comments, and have the highest potential outside of threads about polarizing political issues, to be full of flat out 'nanny-nanny boo boo' or 'you're a poopy head' comments, especially from the younger in age black belts, or even sadly the less mature older black belts. Thus violating the 'be civil' guideline, and so should be segregated to their own forum, with each case getting their own thread.

Whoever does not vote or vote against me, ONLY DENIES THE EVIDENCE OF THE FACTS !!!

I realize that some Italian people have made the situation a soap opera. But the problem is only theirs, because I continue to teach and work in the utmost professionalism and honesty. One of the fundamental problems these people face me is just that. In Italy there are laws that regulate the profession of sports teacher. Many teach from outlaws, especially in Puglia and I'm talking about the people who voted against me; only someone in recent times is trying to regulate. I am a manager of one of the bodies that work for the national Olympic committee and I repeatedly denounce the illegality of many teachers through various means, but speaking in general and not attacking anyone specifically because I don't care. Another element of discord is that of not attending seminars with their teachers, as they do not participate in seminars with my teacher. This is a game related to money too and I understand it very well, I can't force my students to pay seminars every 15 days, otherwise I risk not even paying the monthly installment. There would be many other things I could explain, but I am truly amazed; my profile is complete with photos that demonstrate all that is my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu activity, also if you want to be seriously informed about a person there are also social media, and my Facebook and Istagram profiles are more than documented for years . Some Professors have contacted my professor directly, anyone of you can do it. He is on Facebook and Instagram Rogerio Olegario. Whoever does not vote or vote against me, ONLY DENIES THE EVIDENCE OF THE FACTS !!!

I will remain neutral on this matter. I will not be tied to any controversy unless it is worth me fighting for. For instance, if one of my black belts students or close friends that I train with gets accused of being a fake, that is a cause worth fighting for. It is difficult to choose a side since I don't know any of you. Also I am not familiar with your local martial arts politics. Either way, I hope you and the other members who are at odds find a way to settle this dispute in a friendly manner and eventually put this all behind you in the spirit of that 'Jiu Jitsu Brotherhood' we hear so much about but is seldomly put to practice.

So, in quite a few countries and domiciles, the practice of sport, being a paid sports coach, and especially sports competition is regulated. So, according to Mr. Carone, he is in compliance with the regulations, and holds some role, whether as a volunteer or formally, with the governing agency of sport. in the domicile where this controversy is occurring. Mr. Carone has alleged that some of his detractors are operating their sports coaching business illegally, or at least out of regulation, and this is part of the friction between the two sides. Mr. Carone, you have made this allegation on this thread, do you have any proof that for this allegation that any of the vocal detractors of your belt rank on this thread are operating their sports coaching businesses illegally or out of regulation that is required by the sports governing body or agency?

Whoever does not vote or vote against me, ONLY DENIES THE EVIDENCE OF THE FACTS !!!

" Whoever does not vote or vote against me, ONLY DENIES THE EVIDENCE OF THE FACTS !!!"

There are plenty of people here who do not vote at all or rarely vote for people they haven't had firsthand experience with OR at least some people they know and trust very well do not have the firsthand experience with. So you shouldn't take any non-voting personally.

Mr. Carone, somebody can vote, but it is not mandatory to vote! There are lots of members, who only verify People who they know in person, because they shared the mats with, for example, etc....

Quite right what you say, you are free to vote or not to vote, this is called abstaining. But I repeat, these accusations do not go with me, they go against a Brazilian Professor 5th degree who is not present on this platform and cannot defend himself. And that doesn't seem nice to me.