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Promotion history updates & all votes disappearing

6 year(s) ago • 377 views • 10 replies

Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1355 forum posts10295/1000
6 year(s) ago
I find this feature more than a little problematic as-is...

If somebody updates the details of their past or current promotions, I think it should not erase the vote history. ("Oh, now I found the date of my blue belt promotion" or "Shit, did a typo there on the coach name"...) I have no idea updating which details will result to this, but I'm getting reverification notifications from people whose rank hasn't changed.

At least, it should be visible what you have written before when asked to re-verify. Writing something again is tiresome and in worst case people won't bother. (Or if you did a proper background check on a person you haven't meet, and wrote about it, it will be erased and you might not remember about it.) Also these re-verification notifications can get buried in the notification feed, and thus people can lose vote points just because they update a past detail.

Additionally, there are some carefully written testimonials and nice correspondence in the vote comments. A shame for all these to completely disappear, even when a new rank is earned. They should stay viewable somehow, perhaps under the rank they were originally given for.

Last point. Example: somebody gets a new degree on their black belt. Instantly the person will lose verified rank status, and this can cause a trickle down effect, especially within smaller communities, when all his points are taken away from the people he has voted for. The greater the rank the greater the effect. It's not like a person's legitimacy can vanish in between, say, earning the 3rd and 4th degree for their black belt.
Jan Vlastník
Jan Vlastník
Black beltVerified58 forum posts2265/1000
6 year(s) ago
Complete agreement! Moreover, when people spend so much time and creativity on these texts. I am afraid that when they find out that texts are being deleted like this, they will not waste time writing texts and will only vote.
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39320/1000
6 year(s) ago
Additionally, there are some carefully written testimonials and nice correspondence in the vote comments. A shame for all these to completely disappear, even when a new rank is earned. They should stay viewable somehow, perhaps under the rank they were originally given for.
The text will be reused, we’re in beta and I have a million things to do :)
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39320/1000
6 year(s) ago
Last point. Example: somebody gets a new degree on their black belt. Instantly the person will lose verified rank status, and this can cause a trickle down effect, especially within smaller communities, when all his points are taken away from the people he has voted for. The greater the rank the greater the effect. It's not like a person's legitimacy can vanish in between, say, earning the 3rd and 4th degree for their black belt.
Stripes on belts does not trigger reconfirmation. Nor does automatic time based promotions for black belts.

It’s only these things:

- New belt
- Name of promoter
- Date of promotion
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39320/1000
6 year(s) ago
No, it only looks for changes in belt, promotion date or name of the promoter. All things that I think are important to revérify votes on. Like if someone has a verified black belt but then changes the date of it to go way back, then they can suddenly claim fake degrees on the belt. Or they are verified to have been promoted by someone and then changes it to Rickson Gracie or something.
Here is my comment about it from the other thread
Christian Graugart
Christian Graugart
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4323 forum posts39320/1000
6 year(s) ago
I will update this text field to reuse the prior vote text today. Just gotta get over this fever and kids throwing up all over the house lol
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu PiispanenOP
Black beltVerified1355 forum posts10295/1000
6 year(s) ago
Brilliant! The site is already so good even at this beta stage, these (few) issues tend to stick out. Nice to see that you've had same considerations already.

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