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Beltchecker Belt stats
6 year(s) ago • 5294 views • 7 replies
Purple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Ok the belt stats are driving me insane, can we please have a median figure for the average promotion times and as an early Christmas present, maybe the distribution of promotion times? Because it appears there are over 20 people who have been white belts for over 15 years and over 20 who achieved it in less than 2 months. I would have expected the median to be about 18-24 months but the average (mean?) is currently 34 months.
I don't want to look like a dork getting a blue belt massively before the 'average' and my fragile ego needs some external validation please.
I don't want to look like a dork getting a blue belt massively before the 'average' and my fragile ego needs some external validation please.
Blue beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
*meanwhile I very much have the expectation of waiting three years plus before getting a cookie*
on a serious note, I agree. Median times may be a better indicator of actual average time before blue belt, since a lot of the numbers may include when people started grappling as a whole, rather than formal BJJ training.
on a serious note, I agree. Median times may be a better indicator of actual average time before blue belt, since a lot of the numbers may include when people started grappling as a whole, rather than formal BJJ training.
Purple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
*meanwhile I very much have the expectation of waiting three years plus before getting a cookie* on a serious note, I agree. Median times may be a better indicator of actual average time before blue belt, since a lot of the numbers may include when people started grappling as a whole, rather than formal BJJ training.
I know a lot of people won't agree but there's a fundamental danger of filling your head with false positives when you compete at white belt for too long. The entire meta of how you win white belt matches is not particularly useful to the long term development of skills and so i advocate moving up sooner rather than later.
Blue beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I know a lot of people won't agree but there's a fundamental danger of filling your head with false positives when you compete at white belt for too long. The entire meta of how you win white belt matches is not particularly useful to the long term development of skills and so i advocate moving up sooner rather than later.
Lol. I didn't mean by false positives, brother. I was being self deprecating, but you do raise a good point.
Brown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
*meanwhile I very much have the expectation of waiting three years plus before getting a cookie* on a serious note, I agree. Median times may be a better indicator of actual average time before blue belt, since a lot of the numbers may include when people started grappling as a whole, rather than formal BJJ training.
Yes, I was wondering what date I should set as a starting point as well. As I’ve been doing MartialArts for 35 years, mostly striking arts but also grappling variations, with a numbers of BJJ seminars and so on for years.
But when I found the gym I’m at now, 3 years ago, with the schedule that fit in to all the other stuff I’m doing, I just had that as a zero point in my BJJ journey. Even though I’ve had the white belt with the black bar on since 1998.
But when I found the gym I’m at now, 3 years ago, with the schedule that fit in to all the other stuff I’m doing, I just had that as a zero point in my BJJ journey. Even though I’ve had the white belt with the black bar on since 1998.
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I know a lot of people won't agree but there's a fundamental danger of filling your head with false positives when you compete at white belt for too long. The entire meta of how you win white belt matches is not particularly useful to the long term development of skills and so i advocate moving up sooner rather than later.
You can compete up at some tournaments if your instructor doesn't mind. Just check with the tournament company that's what I do and it's much more fun to challenge yourself. You learn a lot more when your challenged as well and find out where your weakest at which is really the main reason I do tournaments to begin with is to find out areas that I need to work on as your opponents will always help you find exactly what you need to work on.
White belt is just nothing but controlling chaos most of the time especially at heavier weights. It's really boring tournament wise after you've had over a 100 matches at white belt your not getting much more out of those matches in general once you already know that you can control non strategic chaos.
Blue Belt matches people start to spaz less and it's much more fun. More strategy and finally getting to play the game. A lot more relaxed most of the time and explosive movements have more purpose and strategy.
And if they don't let you compete up in the Gi you can still do intermediate or advanced nogi.
White belt is just nothing but controlling chaos most of the time especially at heavier weights. It's really boring tournament wise after you've had over a 100 matches at white belt your not getting much more out of those matches in general once you already know that you can control non strategic chaos.
Blue Belt matches people start to spaz less and it's much more fun. More strategy and finally getting to play the game. A lot more relaxed most of the time and explosive movements have more purpose and strategy.
And if they don't let you compete up in the Gi you can still do intermediate or advanced nogi.
Purple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
You can compete up at some tournaments if your instructor doesn't mind. Just check with the tournament company that's what I do and it's much more fun to challenge yourself. You learn a lot more when your challenged as well and find out where your weakest at which is really the main reason I do tournaments to begin with is to find out areas that I need to work on as your opponents will always help you find exactly what you need to work on. White belt is just nothing but controlling chaos most of the time especially at heavier weights. It's really boring tournament wise after you've had over a 100 matches at white belt your not getting much more out of those matches in general once you already know that you can control non strategic chaos. Blue Belt matches people start to spaz less and it's much more fun. More strategy and finally getting to play the game. A lot more relaxed most of the time and explosive movements have more purpose and strategy. And if they don't let you compete up in the Gi you can still do intermediate or advanced nogi.
Rob Biernacki had a good way of putting it, he said that as a beginner you're essentially asking your opponent questions like "do you know a triangle escape?" "do you know how to get out of lockdown?" etc. You end up winning some matches because there are just gaps in the knowledge of white belts, particularly if you go to more obscure positions and submissions. I got stuck in single leg x for a large chunk of time in my first tournament and just wasn't sure what to do.
As you go up the belts, you have to them assume the answer to all those questions is "yes". Meaning that you're not going to win with a tricky submission or pass guard with one attempt at one guard pass, you have to know what your opponents most likely reaction is, to the move you initiated and attack that. That's where i'm trying to get my knowledge to now, but still a long way to go.
As you go up the belts, you have to them assume the answer to all those questions is "yes". Meaning that you're not going to win with a tricky submission or pass guard with one attempt at one guard pass, you have to know what your opponents most likely reaction is, to the move you initiated and attack that. That's where i'm trying to get my knowledge to now, but still a long way to go.
Black beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Rob Biernacki had a good way of putting it, he said that as a beginner you're essentially asking your opponent questions like 'do you know a triangle escape?' 'do you know how to get out of lockdown?' etc. You end up winning some matches because there are just gaps in the knowledge of white belts, particularly if you go to more obscure positions and submissions. I got stuck in single leg x for a large chunk of time in my first tournament and just wasn't sure what to do. As you go up the belts, you have to them assume the answer to all those questions is 'yes'. Meaning that you're not going to win with a tricky submission or pass guard with one attempt at one guard pass, you have to know what your opponents most likely reaction is, to the move you initiated and attack that. That's where i'm trying to get my knowledge to now, but still a long way to go.
Most of the time whoever wins is just using very basic simple techniques and one persons offensive ability at applying those techniques is just much greater then the other persons defensive ability at stopping them...and or one persons aggression/pressure use is much greater then the other persons cardio/heart.
I think the above is most likely true for White/Blue. Purple I think will be when all technique/strategy/aggression/pressure/"really sneaky shit" and everything In combination really starts to shine in tournament matches in a captain planet sorta way.
I think the above is most likely true for White/Blue. Purple I think will be when all technique/strategy/aggression/pressure/"really sneaky shit" and everything In combination really starts to shine in tournament matches in a captain planet sorta way.
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