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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)

5 year(s) ago • 43596 views • 949 replies

Mirco
Mirco
Brown beltVerified832 forum posts6445/700
5 year(s) ago
Even their wing chun looks bogus.
It even doesn’t look like Wing Chun....
Working on a wooden dummy, in a jiu jitsu gi with a coral belt....... insane
James Jones
James Jones
Black beltVerified1310 forum posts6800/1000
5 year(s) ago
Next he is going to be wearing 2 belts like Master Ken.

1 Belt is not enough to hold all his stripes.
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Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified1809 forum posts18235/1000
5 year(s) ago
I mean... in Estonia we have a thing called Consumer-Protection-Agency to where a business like this could be reported on basis of false advertising... don't States have smth like that?

Or maybe some young ones would just respectively dojo storm :D

I mean this is bad - it's bad on the image of martial arts / combat sports as a whole AND it's bad for the people who go to a place like this...
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1367 forum posts11320/1000
5 year(s) ago
He doubled down LMAO. Everyone say hello to Albuquerque's first and only coral belt.
I bet that belt is gonna turn all red in a few years...
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
He doubled down LMAO. Everyone say hello to Albuquerque's first and only coral belt.
Lmao people called him out on the 7 stripes on the blackbelt track, so what does he do buys a coral belt. Bustamante got his coral belts not to long ago, this moron couldn't hold his jock.
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1367 forum posts11320/1000
5 year(s) ago
Bustamante got his coral belts not to long ago, this moron couldn't hold his jock.
Hey, Bustamante started training as a kid somewhere around 1980, but Lasu has said he already started doing BJJ 47 years ago in 1973! So it makes sense! :D
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Hey, Bustamante started training as a kid somewhere around 1980, but Lasu has said he already started doing BJJ 47 years ago in 1973! So it makes sense! :D
So that means lasu must have been living in Brazil in 1973
Mirco
Mirco
Brown beltVerified832 forum posts6445/700
5 year(s) ago
They call their gym/ business „pure jiu jitsu“ , but whenever I see footage of them on their social media, they do weird capoeira, Something strange looking Kung fu, etc....
I wonder where is the „pure jiu jitsu“?
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
They call their gym/ business „pure jiu jitsu“ , but whenever I see footage of them on their social media, they do weird capoeira, Something strange looking Kung fu, etc.... I wonder where is the „pure jiu jitsu“?
Obviously that's what jiu jitsu was in 1973 when Lasu started
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Ok, so Craig Kukuk the first American to be awarded a blackbelt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu back in 1992. 2021-1992=29 years. We all know that you need minimum 31 years at blackbelt to put on coral belt. And Craig Kukuk is not eligible for coral belt yet. So either history is wrong about Craig being the first American being awarded a Blackbelt by Royler. Or this clown Lasu got his Blackbelt first. I SMELL THE STENCH OF A FRAUD BLACKBELT IN THE AIR.
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David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
Ok, so Craig Kukuk the first American to be awarded a blackbelt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu back in 1992. 2021-1992=29 years. We all know that you need minimum 31 years at blackbelt to put on coral belt. And Craig Kukuk is not eligible for coral belt yet. So either history is wrong about Craig being the first American being awarded a Blackbelt by Royler. Or this clown Lasu got his Blackbelt first. I SMELL THE STENCH OF A FRAUD BLACKBELT IN THE AIR.
In the original thread on the students Facebook (now taken down) Lasu makes a comment along the lines of "people think this is about time and not talent. We should be red belts with all the people we've went through"

This him trying to legitimize the rank
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1367 forum posts11320/1000
5 year(s) ago
belts are sadly seen as time not skill. if all the people that were defeated in our path we would be red belts ..its humility that matters....respectfully.
Yup so he probably WILL self-promote to red belt in due time. :D

I love his line about humility... He is so humble he can choose to bypass the belt degrees' time requirements due to his (self-assessed) superior skill. Now that is true humility! :D

Also: I think with "our path" he refers to his student that got promoted straight to 2nd degree black. As far as is known, "all the people that were defeated" in that guy's path is a few opponents in one single NAGA division.
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David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
Yup so he probably WILL self-promote to red belt in due time. :D I love his line about humility... He is so humble he can choose to bypass the belt degrees' time requirements due to his superior skill. Now that is true humility! :D Also: I think with 'our path' he refers to his student that got promoted straight to 2nd degree black. As far as is known, 'all the people that were defeated' in that guy's path is a few opponents in one single NAGA division.
Don't question how stacked those naga divisions in rural New Mexico can be
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R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4799 forum posts35020/1000
5 year(s) ago
Yup so he probably WILL self-promote to red belt in due time. :D I love his line about humility... He is so humble he can choose to bypass the belt degrees' time requirements due to his superior skill. Now that is true humility! :D Also: I think with 'our path' he refers to his student that got promoted straight to 2nd degree black. As far as is known, 'all the people that were defeated' in that guy's path is a few opponents in one single NAGA division.
At 3:24 is me when I'm talking about the Grandest of all Grand Masters, the Supreme Belt Lasu Rogers.

https://www.youtube.com/w[...]kqFwVuQ-Hg
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
Blue beltVerified621 forum posts3340/200
5 year(s) ago
As far as is known, 'all the people that were defeated' in that guy's path is a few opponents in one single NAGA division.
For the record, I reached out to NAGA to ask about this, hoping they might have a faster way of looking this up. They basically shrugged and said "the winners are on the site."

Their site is rather slow and clunky, the search engine doesn't seem to search winners, and the tournament winner pages take forever to load. So I kind of gave up trying to sift through the results and figure out which tournament he won.
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
For the record, I reached out to NAGA to ask about this, hoping they might have a faster way of looking this up. They basically shrugged and said 'the winners are on the site.' Their site is rather slow and clunky, the search engine doesn't seem to search winners, and the tournament winner pages take forever to load. So I kind of gave up trying to sift through the results and figure out which tournament he won.
Yea it's not easy. I don't even know what event he competed in
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I love it that he doubled down with the belt.. He doesn't roll I am 58 and roll all the time and have more injuries than I could list..

This guy is pure gold.. What is funny if someone questioned my belt I would just post a copy of it. Honestly is you run a business teaching BJJ it should be a common and normal question..

What I love are his fortune cookie responses..

David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
I love it that he doubled down with the belt.. He doesn't roll I am 58 and roll all the time and have more injuries than I could list.. This guy is pure gold.. What is funny if someone questioned my belt I would just post a copy of it. Honestly is you run a business teaching BJJ it should be a common and normal question.. What I love are his fortune cookie responses..
That's why no one doubts your legitimacy !

I know of some in north Jersey, who you would know as well... that went from blue to black without rolling.

Crazy world huh?
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
That's why no one doubts your legitimacy ! I know of some in north Jersey, who you would know as well... that went from blue to black without rolling. Crazy world huh?
I have known of a number of paper belts in North Jersey and other places.

The thing I don't understand is this always ends up happening to many of them and it is really interesting how they double down with more bull shit.. When it come to combat sports the proof is in the doing and you can see a guys experience on the mat or bag, pads etc. Some guys are great coaches but not killers and there is nothing wrong with that but you will usually see most legit people be very happy to answer credential questions because they have them and are actually proud of them..

Take a Black Belt, I am proud Ricardo promoted me to black and that he has faith in me to represent a lineage he is very proud of but the stripe is meaningless to me.. I lived for 3 years I live for another 3 I get a second does not mean much.. I also have to be honest I am far more proud of the titles I won in Lethwei and the tournaments I have won on the mat then the belt or certificate as to me the wins are more tangible than a belt
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have known of a number of paper belts in North Jersey and other places. The thing I don't understand is this always ends up happening to many of them and it is really interesting how they double down with more bull shit.. When it come to combat sports the proof is in the doing and you can see a guys experience on the mat or bag, pads etc. Some guys are great coaches but not killers and there is nothing wrong with that but you will usually see most legit people be very happy to answer credential questions because they have them and are actually proud of them.. Take a Black Belt, I am proud Ricardo promoted me to black and that he has faith in me to represent a lineage he is very proud of but the stripe is meaningless to me.. I lived for 3 years I live for another 3 I get a second does not mean much.. I also have to be honest I am far more proud of the titles I won in Lethwei and the tournaments I have won on the mat then the belt or certificate as to me the wins are more tangible than a belt
1000% agree.

They do always double down. As I'm sure you know there is a great deal of ego on martial arts. Many instructors dismissed jiu jitsu early on and scrambled later when they realized it wasn't a phase

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