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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)

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Daniël Bertina
Daniël Bertina
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5 year(s) ago
When people are this delusional / narcissistic, there is usually more going on than just Le Fuckéry.

Dudeman wearing a coral belt, claiming a lineage that's not his, and being quite unhinged by all accounts, raises serious questions about his antics in other aspects of life.
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
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5 year(s) ago
They do always double down. As I'm sure you know there is a great deal of ego on martial arts. Many instructors dismissed jiu jitsu early on and scrambled later when they realized it wasn't a phase
Working in law enforcement, I'm sure you've seen your share of cases where someone doubled down on something dumb that they did even though they were obviously caught.

I worked in HR for 3 years before taking my current position in LE. It always amazed me how many employees would cling desperately to a dumb story, even when it was in their best interest to just come clean.

People who say, "Yup, you got me, I messed up, I'll straighten up now" are a rarity.
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
Working in law enforcement, I'm sure you've seen your share of cases where someone doubled down on something dumb that they did even though they were obviously caught. I worked in HR for 3 years before taking my current position in LE. It always amazed me how many employees would cling desperately to a dumb story, even when it was in their best interest to just come clean. People who say, 'Yup, you got me, I messed up, I'll straighten up now' are a rarity.
1000% all day long that happens!
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
Working in law enforcement, I'm sure you've seen your share of cases where someone doubled down on something dumb that they did even though they were obviously caught. I worked in HR for 3 years before taking my current position in LE. It always amazed me how many employees would cling desperately to a dumb story, even when it was in their best interest to just come clean. People who say, 'Yup, you got me, I messed up, I'll straighten up now' are a rarity.
Yes that is my story and I am sticking with it .. The leprechauns did it
James Jones
James Jones
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5 year(s) ago
Yup so he probably WILL self-promote to red belt in due time. :D I love his line about humility... He is so humble he can choose to bypass the belt degrees' time requirements due to his (self-assessed) superior skill. Now that is true humility! :D Also: I think with 'our path' he refers to his student that got promoted straight to 2nd degree black. As far as is known, 'all the people that were defeated' in that guy's path is a few opponents in one single NAGA division.
I feel like going to this academy just entered my top 10 things to do in New Mexico if I am ever traveling in that direction.

Been meaning to go to some of the national parks in that area around Arizona anyways lol

I am sure the coral belt wouldn't roll with me but the other dude might if I was wearing a white belt lol

Would it be frowned upon to pull back out the white belt for such a special occasion? lol
Tatu Piispanen
Tatu Piispanen
Black beltVerified1367 forum posts11320/1000
5 year(s) ago
Would it be frowned upon to pull back out the white belt for such a special occasion? lol
If they can choose to wear whatever rank belt pleases them over there, why not you as well :)
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
If they can choose to wear whatever rank belt pleases them over there, why not you as well :)
I agree, I am now an 18th degree camouflage belt
James Jones
James Jones
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5 year(s) ago
I just watched his latest post of him attacking that wing chun dummy and all I could think of was his leg movements looked liked if steven seagal tried to dance to the video of Billy Ocean - Caribbean Queen for some reason.
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Ray Robles
Ray Robles
Black beltVerified104 forum posts3915/1000
5 year(s) ago
I just watched his latest post of him attacking that wing chun dummy and all I could think of was his leg movements looked liked if steven seagal tried to dance to the video of Billy Ocean - Caribbean Queen for some reason.
Great...... Now that song is stuck in my head..... Bastard...... I'm going to down vote you for that...... Caribbean FUUUUUUUCK
James Jones
James Jones
Black beltVerified1310 forum posts6800/1000
5 year(s) ago
Great...... Now that song is stuck in my head..... Bastard...... I'm going to down vote you for that...... Caribbean FUUUUUUUCK
Your welcome lol
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
Great...... Now that song is stuck in my head..... Bastard...... I'm going to down vote you for that...... Caribbean FUUUUUUUCK
Shit now I can't get that visual out of my head.
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
I just went through the results of every NAGA in New Mexico from 2013 on... nobody with his name placed in any event
Did you expect to see him or the other fraud in any naga results? I sure didn't. They are legends in there own minds.
Brian Barlow
Brian Barlow
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified333 forum posts3555/1000
5 year(s) ago
I can't believe he doubled down and got a red/black belt. Still in awe of the hubris/mental illness it took to do that.
Ben Wynne
Ben Wynne
Black belt 1st degreeVerified291 forum posts5040/1000
5 year(s) ago
Working in law enforcement, I'm sure you've seen your share of cases where someone doubled down on something dumb that they did even though they were obviously caught. I worked in HR for 3 years before taking my current position in LE. It always amazed me how many employees would cling desperately to a dumb story, even when it was in their best interest to just come clean. People who say, 'Yup, you got me, I messed up, I'll straighten up now' are a rarity.
I work as a teacher of primary school kids (12 years old and under) and this "double down even when you're clearly caught" is such a child way of thinking of things!

By 12 years old, we get some that are already emotionally mature enough to admit their mistakes, lots that tell a long story to justify or downplay their part in events and a few that will stick to their guns even when all the evidence is against them. These last ones often have a mum that will argue black and blue that their angel "would never do such a thing"

You'd hope that people would grow out of it eventually, but clearly for some they never do
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I just went through the results of every NAGA in New Mexico from 2013 on... nobody with his name placed in any event
Did you actually think his name was going to be on there..

He trains in BJJ and doesn't believe in competing it is a martial art /combat sport.. Competition is not for everyone but the whole style was built on proving ability on the mat..

You walk in to any legit school questioning the teachers ability you had better be ready to get twisted.. He wouldn't roll with a Blue belt ..

He is insulted that people question his rank but his timeline make no sense and he is 100% not what he claims and is unwilling to provide any verification it is obvious he is delusional and caught up in martial art proverbs
Sebastien Lavoie
Sebastien Lavoie
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5 year(s) ago
WTF? Lol This guy is a 7th degree? Yeah right Other dude went from white belt straight to black. His seminars must be out of this world. Probably only teaches the top instructors of the world so they can share his secrets. give me a f'kn break. Must be part of the Deepak Rao Association. Lol!!
First of all, no self respecting BJJ 7th degree black belt takes picture wearing socks ....#itsscience #fakeisthefragance #thosetwotogetherdontmakeoneblackbelt
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
Did you actually think his name was going to be on there.. He trains in BJJ and doesn't believe in competing it is a martial art /combat sport.. Competition is not for everyone but the whole style was built on proving ability on the mat.. You walk in to any legit school questioning the teachers ability you had better be ready to get twisted.. He wouldn't roll with a Blue belt .. He is insulted that people question his rank but his timeline make no sense and he is 100% not what he claims and is unwilling to provide any verification it is obvious he is delusional and caught up in martial art proverbs
No I didn't expect it, BUT I wanted to saying it without any question.

You are correct that's one of the things I love about jiu jitsu. It's entire basis is we prove it each day! Anyone that dreams of challenging a legit instructor... ouch
James Jones
James Jones
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5 year(s) ago
First of all, no self respecting BJJ 7th degree black belt takes picture wearing socks ....#itsscience #fakeisthefragance #thosetwotogetherdontmakeoneblackbelt
I've seen legit instructors wearing socks, hoodies and even shoes. It's not that uncommon.

The attire someone wears does not show you their skill.

Their movement and calmness. Their energy efficiency is the key indicator.

The better you get over time the more and more energy efficient you become.

Obviously just rolling with someone will tell you almost everything you need to know but if your not able to actually roll with someone just simply watching how they move, how calm and at peace they are and how energy efficient they are is all you need to see. Those things do not lie. Confidence is not the indicator. Calm efficiency is.

And there are several legit instructors that could also be defeated by younger stronger decent blue belts if they are over 50. Father time is undefeated. That doesn't make the blue belt any better than a blue belt or the black belt any less than a black belt. It's just the natural order of things. While any legit black belt under 40 shouldn't have any issue with good blue belts once you hit a certain age your just lying to yourself if you think the average 55 year old black belt can easily defeat a really good strong heavyweight blue belt all the time. They most likely would win the majority of the time but I guarantee you the big blue belt would win more times then you think, But the result of that doesn't mean anything. It's a pointless endeavor of the ego.

And now the stupid song Cheap Trick - The Flame is in my head and I hate myself. I am never listening to the radio at random again.
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Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have known of a number of paper belts in North Jersey and other places. The thing I don't understand is this always ends up happening to many of them and it is really interesting how they double down with more bull shit.. When it come to combat sports the proof is in the doing and you can see a guys experience on the mat or bag, pads etc. Some guys are great coaches but not killers and there is nothing wrong with that but you will usually see most legit people be very happy to answer credential questions because they have them and are actually proud of them.. Take a Black Belt, I am proud Ricardo promoted me to black and that he has faith in me to represent a lineage he is very proud of but the stripe is meaningless to me.. I lived for 3 years I live for another 3 I get a second does not mean much.. I also have to be honest I am far more proud of the titles I won in Lethwei and the tournaments I have won on the mat then the belt or certificate as to me the wins are more tangible than a belt
Well said Philip
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I've seen legit instructors wearing socks, hoodies and even shoes. It's not that uncommon. The attire someone wears does not show you their skill. Their movement and calmness. Their energy efficiency is the key indicator. The better you get over time the more and more energy efficient you become. Obviously just rolling with someone will tell you almost everything you need to know but if your not able to actually roll with someone just simply watching how they move, how calm and at peace they are and how energy efficient they are is all you need to see. Those things do not lie. Confidence is not the indicator. Calm efficiency is. And there are several legit instructors that could also be defeated by younger stronger decent blue belts if they are over 50. Father time is undefeated. That doesn't make the blue belt any better than a blue belt or the black belt any less than a black belt. It's just the natural order of things. While any legit black belt under 40 shouldn't have any issue with good blue belts once you hit a certain age your just lying to yourself if you think the average 55 year old black belt can easily defeat a really good strong heavyweight blue belt all the time. They most likely would win the majority of the time but I guarantee you the big blue belt would win more times then you think, But the result of that doesn't mean anything. It's a pointless endeavor of the ego. And now the stupid song Cheap Trick - The Flame is in my head and I hate myself. I am never listening to the radio at random again.
I am 58 and I try and roll with everyone who wants too.. If you walked into most legit schools questioning the instructor you might not live long enough to roll with him
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified82 forum posts1945/1000
5 year(s) ago
That's why no one doubts your legitimacy ! I know of some in north Jersey, who you would know as well... that went from blue to black without rolling. Crazy world huh?
Without rolling? That is crazy.
Sebastien Lavoie
Sebastien Lavoie
Black beltVerified76 forum posts3255/1000
5 year(s) ago
I've seen legit instructors wearing socks, hoodies and even shoes. It's not that uncommon. The attire someone wears does not show you their skill. Their movement and calmness. Their energy efficiency is the key indicator. The better you get over time the more and more energy efficient you become. Obviously just rolling with someone will tell you almost everything you need to know but if your not able to actually roll with someone just simply watching how they move, how calm and at peace they are and how energy efficient they are is all you need to see. Those things do not lie. Confidence is not the indicator. Calm efficiency is. And there are several legit instructors that could also be defeated by younger stronger decent blue belts if they are over 50. Father time is undefeated. That doesn't make the blue belt any better than a blue belt or the black belt any less than a black belt. It's just the natural order of things. While any legit black belt under 40 shouldn't have any issue with good blue belts once you hit a certain age your just lying to yourself if you think the average 55 year old black belt can easily defeat a really good strong heavyweight blue belt all the time. They most likely would win the majority of the time but I guarantee you the big blue belt would win more times then you think, But the result of that doesn't mean anything. It's a pointless endeavor of the ego. And now the stupid song Cheap Trick - The Flame is in my head and I hate myself. I am never listening to the radio at random again.
It was sarcasm, I agree with you
James Jones
James Jones
Black beltVerified1310 forum posts6800/1000
5 year(s) ago
I am 58 and I try and roll with everyone who wants too.. If you walked into most legit schools questioning the instructor you might not live long enough to roll with him
That seems a bit illogical on both sides.

1. Your suggesting most BJJ gyms will murder you if you question their skill or integrity. That is insanely absurd. Maybe they might teach you a painful lesson, maybe they might just humble you gently and politely. Who knows, The chance of them murdering you is very unlikely.

2. The odds of a blue belt questioning an actual legit instructor would be very unlikely to begin with.

Sorry my robotic logical brain does not understand these emotional responses. lol
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
No not a lawyer I am married to one and in10 years have not won an argument..

I am just saying any BJJ black belt I know gets on the mat and rolls frequently.. Hell Helio was doing it up until his death..

Nobody is going to kill you they just won’t be tgg HGH e friendliest of rules.. The example used by Lassu was a blue belt questioning his abilities
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4799 forum posts35020/1000
5 year(s) ago
I am 58 and I try and roll with everyone who wants too.
I'm 52 and I feel the same way. Once I stopped caring about winning everytime I trained, it opened up the game for me and made training more fun than it already was.
It also has helped me avoid acquiring more injuries.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified82 forum posts1945/1000
5 year(s) ago
That seems a bit illogical on both sides. 1. Your suggesting most BJJ gyms will murder you if you question their skill or integrity. That is insanely absurd. Maybe they might teach you a painful lesson, maybe they might just humble you gently and politely. Who knows, The chance of them murdering you is very unlikely. 2. The odds of a blue belt questioning an actual legit instructor would be very unlikely to begin with. Sorry my robotic logical brain does not understand these emotional responses. lol
James, He was speaking with a bit hyperbole. It would most likely be what you were saying. They would either get taught a painful lesson (if the guy challenging was a jerk about it) or get humbled but gently.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4799 forum posts35020/1000
5 year(s) ago
Got any mirror links for this? YT has blocked it in Finland.
No I don't.. It's a scene from Apocalypse Now when Dennis Hopper is telling Martin Sheen about the Colonel.
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
As the 2. degree blackbelt uploaded that vids publicly for everybody on his social media, I felt free to ask what they are training there and who promoted mr. Rogers to coral belt. I suppose though it will surely be deleted soon.
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