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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)
5 year(s) ago • 43561 views • 949 replies
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Checked out the guys facebook. Even his 'promoting' instructor sounds like the typical bs'er when questioned. They always use the same fallback position. As if they all read from the same script. GTFO here.
It's hysterical and pathetically sad at the same time. None of this adds up at all. Pictures and video timelines just don't add up.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Lol! Looks like Beltchecker has just one verified black belt and one verified blue belt in NM. I've reached out to both of them for comment.
I'm curious to see if they've even heard of these guys.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Wow....in 2013 Mr. Kevin Conan Bankens says Mr. Gregory was a Whitebelt, in 2016 he wears a Brownbelt on his fb site till 19th December 2020 then on 23rd December he posted a pic with promotion to 2nd degree blackbelt. So 7 years from white to 2nd degree blackbelt....must be an outstanding bjj player and Coach who everybody should to know in that area, right?
With that meteoric rise, he must have won a world championship or 2 or maybe 3.
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
With that meteoric rise, he must have won a world championship or 2 or maybe 3.
Just got off the phone with Rickson in regards to this topic. He looked at all the photos and posts. He said, "Not enough aura."
I tend to believe him. Lol!!
I tend to believe him. Lol!!
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Interesting comment on Reddit from someone who claims to have trained at the school in question. I cannot vouch for the contents of this comment.

Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Ah great.
A fraud, and a sociopath.
His own ex-students afraid to call him out on his bullshit for fear of him going postal.
The only reason he's still in the game is because he sucked a bit less at jiu jitsu and everyone else in his neck of the woods sucked more (at that time).
What a shitshow. Carry on.
A fraud, and a sociopath.
His own ex-students afraid to call him out on his bullshit for fear of him going postal.
The only reason he's still in the game is because he sucked a bit less at jiu jitsu and everyone else in his neck of the woods sucked more (at that time).
What a shitshow. Carry on.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So the plot thickens. The guy that called out Mr Gregory is a black belt under mr lasu Rogers himself!

Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So the plot thickens. The guy that called out Mr Gregory is a black belt under mr lasu Rogers himself!
Yup.
https://bjjmoves.com/inst[...]n-bankens/
Per the Reddit comment I posted above, apparently most jiu-jitsu practitioners in Rio Rancho have trained under Mr. Rogers at some point.
https://bjjmoves.com/inst[...]n-bankens/
Per the Reddit comment I posted above, apparently most jiu-jitsu practitioners in Rio Rancho have trained under Mr. Rogers at some point.
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Am I correctly educated in relation to bjj, that it is not possible to have a blackbelt with 7 stripes, like Mr. Rogers shows on the pic?
A 7th degree Bjj belt would rather be a „black+red“ belt 7th degree, wouldn’t it, as the maximum on a blackbelt is 6 degrees, isn’t it?
A 7th degree Bjj belt would rather be a „black+red“ belt 7th degree, wouldn’t it, as the maximum on a blackbelt is 6 degrees, isn’t it?
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yup. https://bjjmoves.com/inst[...]n-bankens/ Per the Reddit comment I posted above, apparently most jiu-jitsu practitioners in Rio Rancho have trained under Mr. Rogers at some point.
It's absolutely insane!
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Am I correctly educated in relation to bjj, that it is not possible to have a blackbelt with 7 stripes, like Mr. Rogers shows on the pic? A 7th degree Bjj belt would rather be a „black+red“ belt 7th degree, wouldn’t it, as the maximum on a blackbelt is 6 degrees, isn’t it?
That's my understanding as well
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The guy on Reddit says Rogers is a Jean Jacques Machado black belt. Anyone feel like reaching out?
https://jeanjacquesmachad[...]a/contact/
https://jeanjacquesmachad[...]a/contact/
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So this guy on Reddit says Mr Rogers is a legit Jean Jacques Machado black belt but added degrees.
In the YouTube videos head wearing a Machado gi, but his Facebook said Fadda lineage... I can't see a Machado black belt adding degrees . That title alone is super prestigious
In the YouTube videos head wearing a Machado gi, but his Facebook said Fadda lineage... I can't see a Machado black belt adding degrees . That title alone is super prestigious

Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The guy on Reddit says Rogers is a Jean Jacques Machado black belt. Anyone feel like reaching out? https://jeanjacquesmachad[...]a/contact/
I can try messaging Joe Rogan, Eddie bravo or even jean Jacques himself. ... with that said has Mr Rogers actually claimed this? I've only seen Rogers claim Oswaldo Fadda through Edmilson Alves
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So this guy on Reddit says Mr Rogers is a legit Jean Jacques Machado black belt but added degrees. In the YouTube videos head wearing a Machado gi, but his Facebook said Fadda lineage... I can't see a Machado black belt adding degrees . That title alone is super prestigious
I don’t want to play bjj police, but I just put in the names in google search and google found a bjj Seminar from 2013 with description Mr. Rogers would be a 2.nd degree blackbelt under Carlos Machado:

Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I don’t want to play bjj police, but I just put in the names in google search and google found a bjj Seminar from 2013 with description Mr. Rogers would be a 2.nd degree blackbelt under Carlos Machado:
I still call bullshit on that claim
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Contact info for Carlos Machado affiliation if anyone wants to reach out:
https://carlosmachadojiuj[...]om/Contact
https://carlosmachadojiuj[...]om/Contact
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I can try messaging Joe Rogan, Eddie bravo or even jean Jacques himself. ... with that said has Mr Rogers actually claimed this? I've only seen Rogers claim Oswaldo Fadda through Edmilson Alves
Nah it's only a former student on Reddit that claimed this.
(BTW I am Ms. Rarity on Reddit, in case that wasn't clear.)
(BTW I am Ms. Rarity on Reddit, in case that wasn't clear.)
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Nah it's only a former student on Reddit that claimed this. (BTW I am Ms. Rarity on Reddit, in case that wasn't clear.)
I was thinking that was the case haha. I have some weird automated name but I think you've figured me out too.
I just messaged Mr Rogers himself . Let's see if I get a reply
I just messaged Mr Rogers himself . Let's see if I get a reply
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I just messaged Mr Rogers himself . Let's see if I get a reply
You are braver than I am.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
You are braver than I am.
Haha I was just sick of the guesswork. I came from a place of respect thinking I'd have a better shot at a reply
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I've been following this one on reddit, to add some context from other comments and conversations, it seems Lasu is likely a legit 2nd (maybe 3rd based on my math below?) degree black belt. The notion that he's a 7th degree black (coral) belt and has been doing BJJ for 45 years seems to be the major falsehood; though it sounds like he's dodgy about his lineage/experience in general that I can't help but feel like something else is going on.
https://www.reddit.com/r/[...]ue/gh78v22
I found things from 2012 that he had folks under him, so he's likely been a black belt for close to a decade at this point:
https://www.jiujitsuforum[...]forum-here
I also found where he was advertising himself as "4th dan in BJJ" for a seminar (seems to be April 2020):
http://unm.wsrjj.org/events.htm
"Randy Rogers sensei, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Mr. Rogers holds a 4th dan in BJJ and has studied with the Machado and Gracie families. He will be teaching arm bars and the triangle choke"
The equivalent of yondan in BJJ would be 3rd degree (3 stripe) black belt since that's the fourth rank of black belt for us. Having said that, I wouldn't call the application of the dan grading system standard for BJJ.
All in all, it seems like he is a black belt in BJJ (potentially under Carlos Machado) but there's definitely something fucky going on.
https://www.reddit.com/r/[...]ue/gh78v22
I found things from 2012 that he had folks under him, so he's likely been a black belt for close to a decade at this point:
https://www.jiujitsuforum[...]forum-here
I also found where he was advertising himself as "4th dan in BJJ" for a seminar (seems to be April 2020):
http://unm.wsrjj.org/events.htm
"Randy Rogers sensei, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Mr. Rogers holds a 4th dan in BJJ and has studied with the Machado and Gracie families. He will be teaching arm bars and the triangle choke"
The equivalent of yondan in BJJ would be 3rd degree (3 stripe) black belt since that's the fourth rank of black belt for us. Having said that, I wouldn't call the application of the dan grading system standard for BJJ.
All in all, it seems like he is a black belt in BJJ (potentially under Carlos Machado) but there's definitely something fucky going on.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Am I correctly educated in relation to bjj, that it is not possible to have a blackbelt with 7 stripes, like Mr. Rogers shows on the pic? A 7th degree Bjj belt would rather be a „black+red“ belt 7th degree, wouldn’t it, as the maximum on a blackbelt is 6 degrees, isn’t it?
I don't train with any 7th degree black/coral belts for BJJ but in judo it's pretty common for them to only bring out the special belts for events and otherwise just wear black belts for training. While they would be a coral belt, I can't see it being wrong for such a person to wear a black belt with seven stripes instead if they wanted.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I've been following this one on reddit, to add some context from other comments and conversations, it seems Lasu is likely a legit 2nd (maybe 3rd based on my math below?) degree black belt. The notion that he's a 7th degree black (coral) belt and has been doing BJJ for 45 years seems to be the major falsehood; though it sounds like he's dodgy about his lineage/experience in general that I can't help but feel like something else is going on. https://www.reddit.com/r/[...]ue/gh78v22 I found things from 2012 that he had folks under him, so he's likely been a black belt for close to a decade at this point: https://www.jiujitsuforum[...]forum-here I also found where he was advertising himself as '4th dan in BJJ' for a seminar (seems to be April 2020): http://unm.wsrjj.org/events.htm 'Randy Rogers sensei, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Mr. Rogers holds a 4th dan in BJJ and has studied with the Machado and Gracie families. He will be teaching arm bars and the triangle choke' The equivalent of yondan in BJJ would be 3rd degree (3 stripe) black belt since that's the fourth rank of black belt for us. Having said that, I wouldn't call the application of the dan grading system standard for BJJ. All in all, it seems like he is a black belt in BJJ (potentially under Carlos Machado) but there's definitely something fucky going on.
I can't see a legit black belt promoting his student from brown to 2nd degree black and himself from 2nd degree to 7th.
He may have worn a black belt for years, he may have done seminars with the machados and gracies ... but I don't buy his legitimacy
He may have worn a black belt for years, he may have done seminars with the machados and gracies ... but I don't buy his legitimacy
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I can't see a legit black belt promoting his student from brown to 2nd degree black and himself from 2nd degree to 7th. He may have worn a black belt for years, he may have done seminars with the machados and gracies ... but I don't buy his legitimacy
I'm emailing Carlos Machado (or the email of his school in TX) to ask. As noted, something's definitely fucky. It's just so bizarre.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm emailing Carlos Machado (or the email of his school in TX) to ask. As noted, something's definitely fucky. It's just so bizarre.
I sent a Instagram message to Edmilson Alves who he also claims he's under
Blue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I've been following this one on reddit...
Thanks for the info. Holy heck this entire thing is strange.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Thanks for the info. Holy heck this entire thing is strange.
Yea and I'm buying very little. Chris Haueter was mentioned on Reddit. Is a 5th degree black belt and one of the dirty dozen. No way this guy have been training longer
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yea and I'm buying very little. Chris Haueter was mentioned on Reddit. Is a 5th degree black belt and one of the dirty dozen. No way this guy have been training longer
I'm the one who mentioned Haueter on reddit to point out that for this guy to be a 7th degree he'd have had to be promoted to black belt in 1989 and it would fundamentally change who we know as the first set of American BJJ black belts. The Dirty Dozen weren't promoted until the mid 90s.
https://www.bjjheroes.com[...]irty-dozen
https://www.bjjheroes.com[...]irty-dozen



