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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)
5 year(s) ago • 43583 views • 949 replies
DFBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Got a 'like' on one of my comments from this new profile here: https://www.beltchecker.c[...]p?id=18722 Identity has not been verified yet though so I hope that's really him.
Interesting it's a white belt too
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Maybe I am just a stickler for details, but when a 'master' can't tie his belt correctly....
Guess I have to give my Black Belt back as I don't care how the damn thing is tied as long as it doesn't come off every 2 minutes when rolling
JPBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Guess I have to give my Black Belt back as I don't care how the damn thing is tied as long as it doesn't come off every 2 minutes when rolling
I try to get a nice Hollywood knot, but sometimes if I'm in the middle of a roll or training, I'll tie it like a 6 year old in Walmart wearing their yellow Tae Kwon Do belt.
(It's a reach, but if you've ever seen a family with kids under 10 in martial arts, you understand the visual I'm trying to project)
(It's a reach, but if you've ever seen a family with kids under 10 in martial arts, you understand the visual I'm trying to project)
DFBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Guess I have to give my Black Belt back as I don't care how the damn thing is tied as long as it doesn't come off every 2 minutes when rolling
Haha that I agree with! I have a bigger issue with the 7 degrees and claim of 47 years plus not jiu jitsu
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Listen the guy is a fraud no 2 ways about it I was just saying you can't judge it by a knot as one of my friends was laughing when he saw me at the medal stands at the IBBJF National with the gold and my belt tied wrong
DFBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Listen the guy is a fraud no 2 ways about it I was just saying you can't judge it by a knot as one of my friends was laughing when he saw me at the medal stands at the IBBJF National with the gold and my belt tied wrong
I'm notorious for tying it wrong too. I agree it's not enough to judge him
TPBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I don't care how the damn thing is tied as long as it doesn't come off every 2 minutes when rolling
Same, except I need it to come off every 2 minutes when rolling to catch a breather tying it back on.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Same, except I need it to come off every 2 minutes when rolling to catch a breather tying it back on.
I am old if it comes off I cool down tying it on and pull a muscle
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
A pic thanking old man strength for sending me some Gi's and of course it caused an uproar over the belt knot... They got even more upset when I told them I really didn't care about the knot of for the matter the belt itself.. AS far as I was concerned it just allows me to compete with better competition as the mats don't lie
DFBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
A pic thanking old man strength for sending me some Gi's and of course it caused an uproar over the belt knot... They got even more upset when I told them I really didn't care about the knot of for the matter the belt itself.. AS far as I was concerned it just allows me to compete with better competition as the mats don't lie
Mats certainly don't lie! And I'm from north jersey so even though I do not know you personally, I know your name... 100% legit
SCBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Same, except I need it to come off every 2 minutes when rolling to catch a breather tying it back on.
I feel that!
RRBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Legend has it that Randy Rogers introduced Carlos and Helio to Maeda, after he rolled Maeda.
In all seriousness, those two clowns are faker than Hollywood smiles... I don't care if he has "black belt level skills", the fact that he's manipulating people and BSing his lineage on social media (45-47 years of training? come ooooon), he's no respectable black belt.
I think we need to have an old fashion Beltchecker.com dojo storm of Pure Jiu Jitsu
In all seriousness, those two clowns are faker than Hollywood smiles... I don't care if he has "black belt level skills", the fact that he's manipulating people and BSing his lineage on social media (45-47 years of training? come ooooon), he's no respectable black belt.
I think we need to have an old fashion Beltchecker.com dojo storm of Pure Jiu Jitsu
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Mats certainly don't lie! And I'm from north jersey so even though I do not know you personally, I know your name... 100% legit
I spent a long time in North jersey .. I love Vegas but I miss so many people and it was a hotbed for MMA and Bjj back in the early days
RDBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm originally from Newark NJ (born and raised). Definitely not going back. Lol
I do miss going down the shore though.
I do miss going down the shore though.
JABlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
In all seriousness, those two clowns are faker than Hollywood smiles... I don't care if he has 'black belt level skills', the fact that he's manipulating people and BSing his lineage on social media (45-47 years of training? come ooooon), he's no respectable black belt. I think we need to have an old fashion Beltchecker.com dojo storm of Pure Jiu Jitsu
I like the way you think sir. And we need to film it. I wonder if their double legs get slippy with those socks ;)
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PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm originally from Newark NJ (born and raised). Definitely not going back. Lol I do miss going down the shore though.
Grew up in the Bronx but lived an taught in Mahwah NJ for years.. Lot nicer than Newark but I enjoy the pace out here more just miss some of the people
DFBlack beltVerified
DFBlack beltVerified
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Funny if he wanted to end the fuss he could just post his promotion certificate and give contact info for the person who awarded it.. Let's face it nobody in the BJJ community has evr heard of him with is highly unusual for a log time Black Belt
DBBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
The maths doesn't make sense. He must be one of the dirty dozen with these dates.
DFBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The maths doesn't make sense. He must be one of the dirty dozen with these dates.
Also his instructors, instructor Marcos Santos is a 5th degree... he's claiming to have passed him?
It's so funny that everyone has had a falling out with him. First his instructor then the kid with the suspicious promotion.
It's so funny that everyone has had a falling out with him. First his instructor then the kid with the suspicious promotion.
TPBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
message from Lasu
"I hope this helps you out"... yeah it helps out confirming he's full of shit.
Let's see... A quick internet search says Tom McGonigal got his BJJ black belt in 2000. The earliest he would've then been eligible to give out a black belt of his own would be as a 2nd degree, so 6 years later in 2006. (Lasu also refers to the 6 years when he's talking about his student's promotion to 2nd degree.)
If McGonigal has given Lasu the black belt right away in 2006, that's barely 15 years ago, not 20 years as a bb as he says. So Lasu should've perhaps just qualified for 4th degree very recently.
Also born in 1968 and trained jiu-jitsu as a kid with Pat Sabitini as a classmate? Pat Sabitini the "well known fighter" is born in 1990. :D
Let's see... A quick internet search says Tom McGonigal got his BJJ black belt in 2000. The earliest he would've then been eligible to give out a black belt of his own would be as a 2nd degree, so 6 years later in 2006. (Lasu also refers to the 6 years when he's talking about his student's promotion to 2nd degree.)
If McGonigal has given Lasu the black belt right away in 2006, that's barely 15 years ago, not 20 years as a bb as he says. So Lasu should've perhaps just qualified for 4th degree very recently.
Also born in 1968 and trained jiu-jitsu as a kid with Pat Sabitini as a classmate? Pat Sabitini the "well known fighter" is born in 1990. :D
TPBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The Jordan Gregory 2nd degree story makes even less sense.
So he's 26 and has been doing jiu-jitsu with Lasu for "over 10 years" (which must be before his "black belt" and the falling out 6 years ago), so let's say 11 years. That means he started with Lasu at 9 years old (yup he says "since he was a little boy" ), and then at age 20 Lasu "informally" gives him a black belt but somehow forgets to give it actually, and they fall out, so he remains a ronin brown belt for the next 6 years?? Wtf. Then returns to Lasu and gets promoted straight to 2nd degree black.
And yeah, from what I get from Lasu's message, he has fallen out with McGonigal, Marcos Santos & Rigan Machado, and also Gregory for 6 years.... :D
So he's 26 and has been doing jiu-jitsu with Lasu for "over 10 years" (which must be before his "black belt" and the falling out 6 years ago), so let's say 11 years. That means he started with Lasu at 9 years old (yup he says "since he was a little boy" ), and then at age 20 Lasu "informally" gives him a black belt but somehow forgets to give it actually, and they fall out, so he remains a ronin brown belt for the next 6 years?? Wtf. Then returns to Lasu and gets promoted straight to 2nd degree black.
And yeah, from what I get from Lasu's message, he has fallen out with McGonigal, Marcos Santos & Rigan Machado, and also Gregory for 6 years.... :D
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CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
He should just change to Lasu jitsu and forget about claiming any BJJ rank. Just make up some bullshit martial art and be the grand master of that. Much easier. There's a guy in my town has done this and is the laughing point of every true martial artist. Still, keeps making money for selling his services to people who know nothing about martial arts.
MBrown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The Jordan Gregory 2nd degree story makes even less sense. So he's 26 and has been doing jiu-jitsu with Lasu for 'over 10 years' (which must be before his 'black belt' and the falling out 6 years ago), so let's say 11 years. That means he started with Lasu at 9 years old (yup he says 'since he was a little boy' ), and then at age 20 Lasu 'informally' gives him a black belt but somehow forgets to give it actually, and they fall out, so he remains a ronin brown belt for the next 6 years?? Wtf. Then returns to Lasu and gets promoted straight to 2nd degree black. And yeah, from what I get from Lasu's message, he has fallen out with McGonigal, Marcos Santos & Rigan Machado, and also Gregory for 6 years.... :D
Yeah,
And the other blackbelt, mr. Kevin Bankens, said that Mr. Gregory was a Whitebelt in 2013, when he visited his gym.
Mr. Gregory rarely posted something about being a grappler or doing Jiu Jitsu on his social media.
Instead lots of pics of him boxing at various gyms or competitions. He was at Jackson Wink gym boxing or training in boxing some years ago, at least he posted pics of that.
It is all highly suspicious
And the other blackbelt, mr. Kevin Bankens, said that Mr. Gregory was a Whitebelt in 2013, when he visited his gym.
Mr. Gregory rarely posted something about being a grappler or doing Jiu Jitsu on his social media.
Instead lots of pics of him boxing at various gyms or competitions. He was at Jackson Wink gym boxing or training in boxing some years ago, at least he posted pics of that.
It is all highly suspicious
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
How do you "award" a black belt but not "formally give it to" someone?
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RDBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Lasu's got more fables than Aesop. Lol
TPBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
The Randy Lasu Rogers timeline conundrum
(based on his own words & photos showing the BJJ ranks)
1968 Lasu is born
1973 Lasu starts informally train BJJ at age 5 with classmate Pat Sabitini
1990 Pat Sabitini is born
1994 Jordan Matthew Gregory is born
1999 Tom McGonigal is promoted to BJJ black belt by Marcos Santos
2000 Lasu is promoted to BJJ black belt by Tom McGonigal
2003 Mr. Gregory starts to train BJJ with Lasu at age 9
2005 Tom McGonigal earns the rank to be eligible to award black belts
2013 Mr. Gregory is visiting gyms wearing a BJJ white belt
2014 Mr. Gregory is awarded a BJJ black belt by Lasu, but he doesn't formally give it to him
2014 Lasu & Mr. Gregory have a falling out
2016 Mr. Gregory is wearing a brown belt
2017 Lasu is a 2nd degree black belt
2020 Lasu is a 4th degree black belt
2020 Lasu & Mr. Gregory reconnect
Dec 2020 Lasu is a 7th degree black belt
Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is still wearing a brown belt
Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is promoted to 2nd degree black belt by Lasu
2031 Lasu has been a black belt long enough to be eligible for his 7th degree
*edit: corrected McGonigal promotion year (he appears legit and probably has not promoted Lasu to BJJ black belt "20 years ago" like Lasu claims).
(based on his own words & photos showing the BJJ ranks)
1968 Lasu is born
1973 Lasu starts informally train BJJ at age 5 with classmate Pat Sabitini
1990 Pat Sabitini is born
1994 Jordan Matthew Gregory is born
1999 Tom McGonigal is promoted to BJJ black belt by Marcos Santos
2000 Lasu is promoted to BJJ black belt by Tom McGonigal
2003 Mr. Gregory starts to train BJJ with Lasu at age 9
2005 Tom McGonigal earns the rank to be eligible to award black belts
2013 Mr. Gregory is visiting gyms wearing a BJJ white belt
2014 Mr. Gregory is awarded a BJJ black belt by Lasu, but he doesn't formally give it to him
2014 Lasu & Mr. Gregory have a falling out
2016 Mr. Gregory is wearing a brown belt
2017 Lasu is a 2nd degree black belt
2020 Lasu is a 4th degree black belt
2020 Lasu & Mr. Gregory reconnect
Dec 2020 Lasu is a 7th degree black belt
Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is still wearing a brown belt
Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is promoted to 2nd degree black belt by Lasu
2031 Lasu has been a black belt long enough to be eligible for his 7th degree
*edit: corrected McGonigal promotion year (he appears legit and probably has not promoted Lasu to BJJ black belt "20 years ago" like Lasu claims).
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JWBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I was just about to say Tom McGonigal got his black belt from Mansor around late 2000 early 2001. *edit* February of 1999
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DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
The Randy Lasu Rogers timeline conundrum (based on his own words & photos showing the BJJ ranks) 1968 Lasu is born 1973 Lasu starts informally train BJJ at age 5 with classmate Pat Sabitini 1990 Pat Sabitini is born 1994 Jordan Matthew Gregory is born 2000 Tom McGonigal is promoted to BJJ black belt by Marcos Santos 2000 Lasu is promoted to BJJ black belt by Tom McGonigal 2003 Mr. Gregory starts to train BJJ with Lasu at age 9 2006 Tom McGonigal earns the rank to be eligible to award black belts 2013 Mr. Gregory is visiting gyms wearing a BJJ white belt 2014 Mr. Gregory is awarded a BJJ black belt by Lasu, but he doesn't formally give it to him 2014 Lasu & Mr. Gregory have a falling out 2016 Mr. Gregory is wearing a brown belt 2017 Lasu is a 2nd degree black belt 2020 Lasu is a 4th degree black belt 2020 Lasu & Mr. Gregory reconnect Dec 2020 Lasu is a 7th degree black belt Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is still wearing a brown belt Dec 2020 Mr. Gregory is promoted to 2nd degree black belt by Lasu 2031 Lasu has been a black belt long enough to be eligible for his 7th degree
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