'can we just agree that both their age and the circumstances of the case make it less of an issue than...' Their age and the circumstances make it a non-issue, it was just the more vulgar members of the online BJJ community showing their vulgarity, as they are prone to do, and that kind of vulgar mob behavior should be called out. But as it was 9 years ago, those children are adults now, and hopefully not worse for the wear. 'the adult full out BJJ BB fakers mentioned in the thread?' At least on the adults mentioned, Jordan Tabor, was BJJ Internet mobbed for having his affiliation attempt to hit him for $2,000 after his black belt promotion, and then refusing to recognize his promotion after he refused to pay that affiliation fee, after the fact. Which is a story similar to the stories that many people here on Beltchecker, have reported happening to them. So, the court of public opinion is rarely just, and is rarely driven by facts, and reason, free from emotion, vulgarity, and bias. But, we may agree on other matters, at some point.

We had local NC legend James Paredes about a decade ago teaching BJJ at a local karate school. He got called out eventually and said that his style was more traditional even though he wore BJJ gis and had a BJJ black belt. But if you ever were wondering how to handle someone trying to choke you while you mounted them, then I've got the technique for you. https://www.youtube.com/w[...]dit.com%2F

It seems like it's not uncommon for practitioners of traditional martial arts who cross train in BJJ to get in trouble because they decide to wear a BJJ black belt with a red sleeve in place of their TMA black belt when their actual BJJ rank is much lower. BJJ belts are unique and no other martial art uses sleeves on the belts (though other styles do use stripes without the sleeves). I don't find it very plausible when someone claims, 'Oh, that was my karate black belt you mistook for a Jiu-Jitsu belt,' when there is a bright red sleeve on the belt (which is often tied around a BJJ gi, not a karate gi). I'm certified to teach multiple martial arts systems and I have always been very careful to never mix up my belts while training (especially while teaching). In BJJ, I wear my black belt with the red sleeve, stripes, and professor's bars. In judo, I wear a plain black belt with no sleeve or stripes. In Jeet Kune Do or Krav Maga, I wear a t-shirt or a rash guard (since we don't have belts and we train in regular athletic clothes). Cyberbullying people with dubious belts is not justified, of course, but I think that is a different issue. There are two questions at stake here: (1) is the BJJ belt they are wearing legitimate, and (2) how should we properly respond to people with dubious BJJ belts? We should respond to illegitimate belts with rational, evidence-based arguments and avoid fallacious personal attacks. I have found that Beltchecker is a lot better than most internet forums, which regularly feature fallacious personal attacks (the weapon of choice for the keyboard warrior). Sometimes, we might forget RULE #1 (be nice), but at least we have a RULE #1 to fall back on. Most internet forums are like Thunderdome.

Man I remember when this kicked off, I was purple belt at the time. Fucking classic, the lugnut hahahahaha. He duped quite a few students and ended up fully disappearing.

And then…there’s this guy: Renato Laranja, the “Borat of BJJ”. I think that’s “Honda Housey” in that picture.

You can not make someone more legit than GM Renatch porra Hespect is dead...that guy is 27 times world champ, a legend of our sportch

I can hear his voice when you type it like that.

and for the folks who didn't know who he was CJI certainly was a brilliant introduction to him...

Shame on them ! Porra He's did more for jiujitsu than Roycy Grace or Graig Jonesy is legendary journey should be told in every gym, to everyone, specialy for attractives ladys

Caralho! If you don’t know bout’ Henato, den you probably smokes the heefers with Joe Hogan. Dat-a guy the real fake-a black beltch because he trains with Edgie Bravo an-a don’t wear the gi.

This one was a classic, Ruben Alvarez in Miami made this guy give him his fake belt. Guy couldn’t even shrimp or forward roll. Scroll down a bit to watch the video. https://www.mixedmartiala[...]black-belt

The elusive secret agent James Nakamura should perhaps be added here. Allegedly claiming to be a Carlson Gracie BB, but none of Carlson's students seems to have heard of him and he isn't on Carlson's list of promoted BB:s. https://www.beltchecker.c[...]amp;page=1

Got my eyes on these bad boys. LOL

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I feel some „Lasu Rodgers vibes 😬…. https://smoothcomp.com/en[...]club/57807

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