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Favorite Jiu Jitsu Conditioning Routine
5 year(s) ago • 1873 views • 29 replies
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm sure we all have a few favorite routines we like to use for condition.
What are some of yours and what methodologies do you use? Functional, Body Weight, Weights, cardio, etc.
What are some of yours and what methodologies do you use? Functional, Body Weight, Weights, cardio, etc.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I follow my coach's advice.
Off-comp season focus is on strength training & skill acquisition, with lighter sparring. (Heavy lifting mostly, and lighter jiujitsu sessions in order to recover from it.)
In comp season cardio is upped mainly with specific kinds of sparring, but also with interval running and later hill sprints.
Off-comp season focus is on strength training & skill acquisition, with lighter sparring. (Heavy lifting mostly, and lighter jiujitsu sessions in order to recover from it.)
In comp season cardio is upped mainly with specific kinds of sparring, but also with interval running and later hill sprints.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm always pressed for time between family life, a full time job, studying part time and running a jiu-jitsu club.
A lot of my routines follow more of a functional training approach which comprises of Kettlebells, tires, sledge hammers and bodyweight exercises. I don't do alot of weights anymore, but have always carried a good natural strength.
I will general throwing that into a circuit that pushes the pace. Its like trying to get the best bang for the buck in the limited time available.
I generally roll 3 - 4 times a week, which are then split into various formats. Sometime we will do specific positional rolling, other days free rolling, some session are more flow or slow rolling. I always tell my students to approach rolling with an objective and to try focus on weak areas in their games. I have always been a believer in focusing training in the areas we either suck at or want to refine. If you spend enough time in bad situations, they no longer are as bad and you have answers to the problem.
On the days I'm not rolling I perform various high intensity functional training sessions as I described previously. But will always do at least 2 -3 session a week.
I try listen to my body and if I'm a bit worn out from a hard week, I'll dial the intensity down a bit, either in rolling or in conditioning.
When I was younger with fewer responsibilities and still competing a lot I used to train multiple times a day. This would be spilt between strength training, functional training, steady state cardio and various martial arts training ranging from jiu jitsu, wresting, boxing, kick boxing, and mma.
Comp preps were generally brutal, but would then taper closer to the event. We would often play piggy in the middle. 4 - 5 rounds of 6 minutes with a fresh opponent coming in every 2 min. 1 minutes rest between each round and then each round start with you in your least favorite position.
A lot of my routines follow more of a functional training approach which comprises of Kettlebells, tires, sledge hammers and bodyweight exercises. I don't do alot of weights anymore, but have always carried a good natural strength.
I will general throwing that into a circuit that pushes the pace. Its like trying to get the best bang for the buck in the limited time available.
I generally roll 3 - 4 times a week, which are then split into various formats. Sometime we will do specific positional rolling, other days free rolling, some session are more flow or slow rolling. I always tell my students to approach rolling with an objective and to try focus on weak areas in their games. I have always been a believer in focusing training in the areas we either suck at or want to refine. If you spend enough time in bad situations, they no longer are as bad and you have answers to the problem.
On the days I'm not rolling I perform various high intensity functional training sessions as I described previously. But will always do at least 2 -3 session a week.
I try listen to my body and if I'm a bit worn out from a hard week, I'll dial the intensity down a bit, either in rolling or in conditioning.
When I was younger with fewer responsibilities and still competing a lot I used to train multiple times a day. This would be spilt between strength training, functional training, steady state cardio and various martial arts training ranging from jiu jitsu, wresting, boxing, kick boxing, and mma.
Comp preps were generally brutal, but would then taper closer to the event. We would often play piggy in the middle. 4 - 5 rounds of 6 minutes with a fresh opponent coming in every 2 min. 1 minutes rest between each round and then each round start with you in your least favorite position.
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Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I follow the S.A.I.D principles of conditioning. All conditioning movements are based on jiu-jitsu function and movement. All sessions will be based on the length of the match and estimated by the number of matches. Everything is based on explosive movements coupled with compressive holds. Trying to simulate a higher output than an actual match, using micro rest cycles within the conditioning session.
Then to technique rolling after conditioning to work on transitions.
Then to technique rolling after conditioning to work on transitions.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Hard style kettlebell lifting, specifically Strong First protocols are brutally effective and low on time commitment. Anti-glycolytic training is much easier on the body when combining with BJJ training, in my humble opinion. BJJ fanatics just dropped a hard-style instructional by Pavel, if you’re interested. Otherwise lots of resources on the web as well.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I do very general s&c for longevity and health.
Based on recommendations by Steve Maxwell, whose work I've been following for years. I do something every day, depending on how i feel.
Guidelines i use
*super slow calisthenics, time under tension
*functional isometrics, time under tension (30 sec at 50%, 30 sec at 70%, 30 sec at 100% effort).
*simple kettlebells. Halo, swing, high pull, long cycle, goblet squat.
*slow jogging (niko niko).
*simple vinyasa yoga.
*general joint mobility.
Based on recommendations by Steve Maxwell, whose work I've been following for years. I do something every day, depending on how i feel.
Guidelines i use
*super slow calisthenics, time under tension
*functional isometrics, time under tension (30 sec at 50%, 30 sec at 70%, 30 sec at 100% effort).
*simple kettlebells. Halo, swing, high pull, long cycle, goblet squat.
*slow jogging (niko niko).
*simple vinyasa yoga.
*general joint mobility.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I've gotten into a pattern over lockdown. On Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday I do 3 rounds of 15 push-ups (elbows close to ribs), 15 twisting crunches and 5 single leg squats on each leg. Then on Wednesday, Friday and Sunday I do 3 rounds of 2 military press on each side with a 20kg (finishing up with 3 on the final round, trying to build that up safely), 5 front squats (switching to goblet squats on the last round), then 10 v-ups with a 6kg kettlebell (leg raisers combined with touching your toes, while holding a kettlebell).
My pistol squat is still way too high, but as with the kettlebell military press, I 'm trying to build that up slowly by going as low as I possibly can on the final round. At that's one thing I've been able to work on over lockdown.
https://www.instagram.com[...]yStrength/
My pistol squat is still way too high, but as with the kettlebell military press, I 'm trying to build that up slowly by going as low as I possibly can on the final round. At that's one thing I've been able to work on over lockdown.
https://www.instagram.com[...]yStrength/
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Hard style kettlebell lifting, specifically Strong First protocols are brutally effective and low on time commitment. Anti-glycolytic training is much easier on the body when combining with BJJ training, in my humble opinion. BJJ fanatics just dropped a hard-style instructional by Pavel, if you’re interested. Otherwise lots of resources on the web as well.
I'm a big fan of Pavel Tsatsouline been following him since the late 1990's and started using kettlebells back then. Changed my whole philosophy of strength and conditioning.
Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I do very general s&c for longevity and health. Based on recommendations by Steve Maxwell, whose work I've been following for years. I do something every day, depending on how i feel. Guidelines i use *super slow calisthenics, time under tension *functional isometrics, time under tension (30 sec at 50%, 30 sec at 70%, 30 sec at 100% effort). *simple kettlebells. Halo, swing, high pull, long cycle, goblet squat. *slow jogging (niko niko). *simple vinyasa yoga. *general joint mobility.
Yeah,
I follow Steve Maxwell for over 10 years since I was certified in Kettlebell Fitness (under Robert Rimoczi/ Pavel Tsatsouline in 2010).
In relation to sustainable strength and conditioning in my eyes Steve Maxwell definitely is the man.
I love the „TUT“, time under tension approach.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not feeling old (mid 40s)but my exercising changed over the years the „older“ I get. Personally I don’t lift as heavy as in the past anymore and I do more mobility and BWE- bodyweight exercises.... I have the impression I feel better and more refreshed that way and I think it is more sustainable for me personally.
In that way I am on the same page like Daniel:
- bwe, and TRX time under tension
- hardstyle kettlebell swings and Turkish get up
- mobility and yoga moves
- mild running/ jogging
I follow Steve Maxwell for over 10 years since I was certified in Kettlebell Fitness (under Robert Rimoczi/ Pavel Tsatsouline in 2010).
In relation to sustainable strength and conditioning in my eyes Steve Maxwell definitely is the man.
I love the „TUT“, time under tension approach.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not feeling old (mid 40s)but my exercising changed over the years the „older“ I get. Personally I don’t lift as heavy as in the past anymore and I do more mobility and BWE- bodyweight exercises.... I have the impression I feel better and more refreshed that way and I think it is more sustainable for me personally.
In that way I am on the same page like Daniel:
- bwe, and TRX time under tension
- hardstyle kettlebell swings and Turkish get up
- mobility and yoga moves
- mild running/ jogging
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Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
My routine is no routine. I change what I am doing constantly. I try everything out and see what gets the best results for the goal in mind. The goals are constantly shifting and changing and so the workouts do as well.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yeah, I follow Steve Maxwell for over 10 years since I was certified in Kettlebell Fitness (under Robert Rimoczi/ Pavel Tsatsouline in 2010). In relation to sustainable strength and conditioning in my eyes Steve Maxwell definitely is the man. I love the „TUT“, time under tension approach. Don’t get me wrong, I am not feeling old (mid 40s)but my exercising changed over the years the „older“ I get. Personally I don’t lift as heavy as in the past anymore and I do more mobility and BWE- bodyweight exercises.... I have the impression I feel better and more refreshed that way and I think it is more sustainable for me personally. In that way I am on the same page like Daniel: - bwe, and TRX time under tension - hardstyle kettlebell swings and Turkish get up - mobility and yoga moves - mild running/ jogging
Steve Maxwell DVDs were my intro to kettelbells . He's a true OG. Relson BB and first real American KB guru.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Rollin
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Most things work. It'd be very hard to argue what's "best".
Consistency is important...
That said, to troll a bit to make forums more interesting:
1) "Functional" training is a silly term IMO
2) IF you'd truly follow SAID then you'd just train your sport. GPP is GENERAL for a reason. Emulating sport / sport movements in conditioning is taking the worst from both worlds.
My 2c.
Where's Miikka at?
Consistency is important...
That said, to troll a bit to make forums more interesting:
1) "Functional" training is a silly term IMO
2) IF you'd truly follow SAID then you'd just train your sport. GPP is GENERAL for a reason. Emulating sport / sport movements in conditioning is taking the worst from both worlds.
My 2c.
Where's Miikka at?
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Most things work. It'd be very hard to argue what's 'best'. Consistency is important... That said, to troll a bit to make forums more interesting: 1) 'Functional' training is a silly term IMO 2) IF you'd truly follow SAID then you'd just train your sport. GPP is GENERAL for a reason. Emulating sport / sport movements in conditioning is taking the worst from both worlds. My 2c. Where's Miikka at?
With the SAID principle. Worst of both worlds SMH. Sport Specific training has improved professional athletes performance around the world and is a proven. method. To think it won't improve jiu-jitsu athletes is preposterous. Functional training, is a foundation of all movement not just in jiu-jitsu. Take the single arm kettlebell swing for instance. The body needs to continually compensate balance when the kettlebell is swung out and away from the body. The body also needs to compensate for the non symmetrical movement of the one arm swing, the spine needs to maintain its structure thus the core of the body needs to support the spine. Functional training trains the whole body to be strong at the same time, not just body parts being strong. Properception is a big part of this. You can't build properceptive response without functional training. That just my scientificallyand bio mechanically proven 2c
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Brown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
recommend this book, gives you a protocol/schedule and you can put in the workouts here or add from other sources :
also gives a great overview of anaerobic/aerobic systems
https://www.amazon.com/Ta[...]B0143HDCWS
also gives a great overview of anaerobic/aerobic systems
https://www.amazon.com/Ta[...]B0143HDCWS
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Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
recommend this book, gives you a protocol/schedule and you can put in the workouts here or add from other sources : also gives a great overview of anaerobic/aerobic systems https://www.amazon.com/Ta[...]B0143HDCWS
This is one of my favorites.
It was mandatory reading for a college course
Movement https://www.amazon.com/dp[...]S36FBNNMH6
It was mandatory reading for a college course
Movement https://www.amazon.com/dp[...]S36FBNNMH6
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Fair. Would you share then that scientific proof that single arm kettlebells are better for BJJ than e.g. power cleans?
Or that non symmetrical unilateral movements are better for some aspect of BJJ compared to bilateral movements?
And for the last thing, I'd like to see articles showing that the proprioceptive adaption of e.g. unilateral explosive lifting has a carryover to proprioceptive reactions into what a BJJ athlete is doing in BJJ and that is better (more power? more endurance? less injuries?) than just doing BJJ?
Quick skim through some databases showed that actually most actual research seems to point at "kinda everything works" in these regards. E.g. https://www.researchgate.[...]r_Strength and https://www.researchgate.[...]_and_Power
Gentle reminder: just saying that something is scientifically proven is not an argument in itself ;)
Or that non symmetrical unilateral movements are better for some aspect of BJJ compared to bilateral movements?
And for the last thing, I'd like to see articles showing that the proprioceptive adaption of e.g. unilateral explosive lifting has a carryover to proprioceptive reactions into what a BJJ athlete is doing in BJJ and that is better (more power? more endurance? less injuries?) than just doing BJJ?
Quick skim through some databases showed that actually most actual research seems to point at "kinda everything works" in these regards. E.g. https://www.researchgate.[...]r_Strength and https://www.researchgate.[...]_and_Power
Gentle reminder: just saying that something is scientifically proven is not an argument in itself ;)
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Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I will have to go on my account on the NSCA website and pull down said research.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Fair. Would you share then that scientific proof that single arm kettlebells are better for BJJ than e.g. power cleans? Or that non symmetrical unilateral movements are better for some aspect of BJJ compared to bilateral movements? And for the last thing, I'd like to see articles showing that the proprioceptive adaption of e.g. unilateral explosive lifting has a carryover to proprioceptive reactions into what a BJJ athlete is doing in BJJ and that is better (more power? more endurance? less injuries?) than just doing BJJ? Quick skim through some databases showed that actually most actual research seems to point at 'kinda everything works' in these regards. E.g. https://www.researchgate.[...]r_Strength and https://www.researchgate.[...]_and_Power Gentle reminder: just saying that something is scientifically proven is not an argument in itself ;)
Is the nsca research and NIH research on the subject scientific enough???
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Okay everyone. I want to apologise to everyone who reads this thread and especially to Mark.
Let me give some background:
2 years ago one of my New Years promises was to be less of a dick on the internet. Once again I totally failed at that.
I found yesterday evening that someone from my work had tested covid positive. While we weren't in super close contact at work, we still said hi in the hallways and ate lunch together about 5 m apart. I was rather pissed off. While it's reasonable to hope for the best and it's a fairly high chance I didn't contract the virus, I still have to be careful and will self isolate. Meaning that once I have JUST recovered from my knee injury, I am off the mats again.
So I was a bit anxious and pissed off in the evening. And one of my pasttimes especially in my 20s has been stirring up controversy on topics I enjoy. So I came to Beltchecker and saw this thread and... you know the rest.
The topic of conditioning (and nutrition) has always been close to my heart as when we started BJJ and MMA we had to figure it all out on ourselves as well. And I worked for 7 years in the Tartu University in Sports and Exercise Science department...
I genuinely have felt in regards more recent research (past 10 years) has shown that we are far more adaptable and flexible and actually LOT of things work. Which is a good thing - more "art" in adapting the programs to the specific person.
And Mark, I'd really really love to keep up the actual discussion, so if you can - please be the better man and forgive me my douchiness in last posts and let's have a fresher and more constructive restart.
Let me give some background:
2 years ago one of my New Years promises was to be less of a dick on the internet. Once again I totally failed at that.
I found yesterday evening that someone from my work had tested covid positive. While we weren't in super close contact at work, we still said hi in the hallways and ate lunch together about 5 m apart. I was rather pissed off. While it's reasonable to hope for the best and it's a fairly high chance I didn't contract the virus, I still have to be careful and will self isolate. Meaning that once I have JUST recovered from my knee injury, I am off the mats again.
So I was a bit anxious and pissed off in the evening. And one of my pasttimes especially in my 20s has been stirring up controversy on topics I enjoy. So I came to Beltchecker and saw this thread and... you know the rest.
The topic of conditioning (and nutrition) has always been close to my heart as when we started BJJ and MMA we had to figure it all out on ourselves as well. And I worked for 7 years in the Tartu University in Sports and Exercise Science department...
I genuinely have felt in regards more recent research (past 10 years) has shown that we are far more adaptable and flexible and actually LOT of things work. Which is a good thing - more "art" in adapting the programs to the specific person.
And Mark, I'd really really love to keep up the actual discussion, so if you can - please be the better man and forgive me my douchiness in last posts and let's have a fresher and more constructive restart.
Black beltVerified
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
2 years ago one of my New Years promises was to be less of a dick on the internet.
Worse New Years resolution ever. While I see that you are not in 'Merica I am, sir, and I NEED, NEED, NEED people being dicks to each other in order to have faith in my community. ESPECIALLY on the interwebs.
So carry on, please.
So carry on, please.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
There's attribute work and then there is conditioning. For conditioning and skill work, I grapple or simulate grappling with a partner. That's the only way to condition your body for the sport, imo. Can't get better at grappling by trying to shrimp with rubber bands or something silly like that.
For strength/power/explosiveness I lift heavy shit, jump on stuff, sprint etc. Also include a lot of unilateral movement to build a balanced body. Building a strong athletic body will help prevent injuries.
For aerobic/endurance I walk and cycle, sometimes get a light kettlebell routine in. Just hiked for 30 km during the weekend like it was nothing (strength and muscle endurance helps with that). Felt great afterwards and was able to snowboard all day next day. Fresh air does wonders for the body.
What I recommend for most grapplers is something that develops mobility and strength (kettlebell/oly lifts), sprinting and jumping, and something fun and aerobic. And to get better at grappling, simulate with a partner. Unless you're Marcelo Garcia.
For strength/power/explosiveness I lift heavy shit, jump on stuff, sprint etc. Also include a lot of unilateral movement to build a balanced body. Building a strong athletic body will help prevent injuries.
For aerobic/endurance I walk and cycle, sometimes get a light kettlebell routine in. Just hiked for 30 km during the weekend like it was nothing (strength and muscle endurance helps with that). Felt great afterwards and was able to snowboard all day next day. Fresh air does wonders for the body.
What I recommend for most grapplers is something that develops mobility and strength (kettlebell/oly lifts), sprinting and jumping, and something fun and aerobic. And to get better at grappling, simulate with a partner. Unless you're Marcelo Garcia.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Okay everyone. I want to apologise to everyone who reads this thread and especially to Mark. Let me give some background: 2 years ago one of my New Years promises was to be less of a dick on the internet. Once again I totally failed at that. I found yesterday evening that someone from my work had tested covid positive. While we weren't in super close contact at work, we still said hi in the hallways and ate lunch together about 5 m apart. I was rather pissed off. While it's reasonable to hope for the best and it's a fairly high chance I didn't contract the virus, I still have to be careful and will self isolate. Meaning that once I have JUST recovered from my knee injury, I am off the mats again. So I was a bit anxious and pissed off in the evening. And one of my pasttimes especially in my 20s has been stirring up controversy on topics I enjoy. So I came to Beltchecker and saw this thread and... you know the rest. The topic of conditioning (and nutrition) has always been close to my heart as when we started BJJ and MMA we had to figure it all out on ourselves as well. And I worked for 7 years in the Tartu University in Sports and Exercise Science department... I genuinely have felt in regards more recent research (past 10 years) has shown that we are far more adaptable and flexible and actually LOT of things work. Which is a good thing - more 'art' in adapting the programs to the specific person. And Mark, I'd really really love to keep up the actual discussion, so if you can - please be the better man and forgive me my douchiness in last posts and let's have a fresher and more constructive restart.
Hey bro no hard feelings, we have a difference of opinion on conditioning for jiu-jitsu. And that's ok.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Hey bro no hard feelings, we have a difference of opinion on conditioning for jiu-jitsu. And that's ok.
I even think the opinions might not be THAT different in the end of the day :)
And I'm glad Mikka also joined the convo.
As I said - maybe I'm cherry picking but it seems more and more that really diverse stuff gives actually similar results so "better" comes down to individuality.
And I'm glad Mikka also joined the convo.
As I said - maybe I'm cherry picking but it seems more and more that really diverse stuff gives actually similar results so "better" comes down to individuality.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
so 'better' comes down to individuality.
And from an individual, lazy, non-competitor perspective, regardless of how objectively good a conditioning program might be, the best workout for me is primarily the one that I'll actually be arsed to do regularly. Instead of maybe once and then decide it's too hard/boring/complex. :P
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
And from an individual, lazy, non-competitor perspective, regardless of how objectively good a conditioning program might be, the best workout for me is primarily the one that I'll actually be arsed to do regularly. Instead of maybe once and then decide it's too hard/boring/complex. :P
This! And we are the lucky ones, because we have all found some or several physical activities that we enjoy.
Black beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I have always found Martin Rooney's Training for Warriors method to be a great option for me. His book training for warriors and warrior cardio have some really good options and information.
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I remember taking Rooney's Warrior warmup in like 2006 or whenever it came out and it was like a godsend at that time - at least some structure.


