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Dumb comp / weight cutting questions
5 year(s) ago • 1643 views • 36 replies
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I think I'm going to sign up for my first competition, Illinois NewBreed on March 13th.
I haven't weighed myself in a bit. Weighed myself this afternoon; 164.1 lbs (164.5 in a sports bra and grappling boxer shorts, which is probably how I'll be weighing in at the comp). So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161.
What can I do in the next 10 days to cut the weight without killing myself? What should I go for in terms of diet, etc.?
There's no one signed up in my target division yet so it's possible I'm worrying over nothing (I have an anxiety disorder, I overthink things), but I'd like to prepare as if there will actually be a match.
I haven't weighed myself in a bit. Weighed myself this afternoon; 164.1 lbs (164.5 in a sports bra and grappling boxer shorts, which is probably how I'll be weighing in at the comp). So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161.
What can I do in the next 10 days to cut the weight without killing myself? What should I go for in terms of diet, etc.?
There's no one signed up in my target division yet so it's possible I'm worrying over nothing (I have an anxiety disorder, I overthink things), but I'd like to prepare as if there will actually be a match.
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JABlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I think I'm going to sign up for my first competition, Illinois NewBreed on March 13th. I haven't weighed myself in a bit. Weighed myself this afternoon; 164.1 lbs (164.5 in a sports bra and grappling boxer shorts, which is probably how I'll be weighing in at the comp). So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161. What can I do in the next 10 days to cut the weight without killing myself? What should I go for in terms of diet, etc.? There's no one signed up in my target division yet so it's possible I'm worrying over nothing (I have an anxiety disorder, I overthink things), but I'd like to prepare as if there will actually be a match.
If you aren't drinking water, drink water. and make sure to weigh yourself every morning after morning bathroom and before any water etc etc - this way you know what you are fully dehydrated from sleeping.
After that honestly, if you are only 2 pounds out you can just decrease caloric intake a little each day (without going too far overboard) but you may only be eating like 1200 calories a day - or 2000 - you just need to decrease what you are doing now gradually.
After that honestly, if you are only 2 pounds out you can just decrease caloric intake a little each day (without going too far overboard) but you may only be eating like 1200 calories a day - or 2000 - you just need to decrease what you are doing now gradually.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Drink lot's of water and 2 days before the weigh in switch to distilled water as you will hold less..
Diet wise cut out sodium harder than it sounds and cut out carbs go higher protein and fats for a week
Diet wise cut out sodium harder than it sounds and cut out carbs go higher protein and fats for a week
VBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I think I'm going to sign up for my first competition, Illinois NewBreed on March 13th. I haven't weighed myself in a bit. Weighed myself this afternoon; 164.1 lbs (164.5 in a sports bra and grappling boxer shorts, which is probably how I'll be weighing in at the comp). So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161. What can I do in the next 10 days to cut the weight without killing myself? What should I go for in terms of diet, etc.? There's no one signed up in my target division yet so it's possible I'm worrying over nothing (I have an anxiety disorder, I overthink things), but I'd like to prepare as if there will actually be a match.
I normally cut my weight well in advance and hold that weight for a few weeks that way I'm at full strength. I'm not a big fan of cutting weight for grappling tournaments because most are weigh in and fight. Not optimal when you are cutting weight and can't replenish your body. But if you are cutting down listen to Phillip Dunlap he's right on the money.
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JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Eat whatever you want and sign up for the heavier division as they will prob just bump you up to that division anyways and then at least you will feel better and no stress.
It's just a jiu-jitsu match not some MMA fight. cutting weight is silly for jiu-jitsu especially if the brackets are just 10 pounds apart.
You will preform a lot better if your more relaxed and not dehydrated.
My only advice would be don't load up on fiber on the day of the tournament and maybe only eat something lean like skipjack tuna, or a smoothie if you've already taken your shit that day. You seriously don't want to feel like you are really full or have to go to the bathroom while on the mat lol and maybe some gummies or a light protein drink for between matches and plenty of water.
The worst feeling ever is if you cut weight and end up dehydrated...your muscles will only work for about 30 seconds and you will be powerless until rehydrated.
Also don't burn your forearms out in the first match from grabbing onto things as hard as you can lol
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Getting some hydrating amino acids and throwing it in water would be a pro tip as well in either scenario cutting or not cutting.
Below is an example not sure if the link will work.
https://www.amazon.com/LI[...]l&th=1
It's just a jiu-jitsu match not some MMA fight. cutting weight is silly for jiu-jitsu especially if the brackets are just 10 pounds apart.
You will preform a lot better if your more relaxed and not dehydrated.
My only advice would be don't load up on fiber on the day of the tournament and maybe only eat something lean like skipjack tuna, or a smoothie if you've already taken your shit that day. You seriously don't want to feel like you are really full or have to go to the bathroom while on the mat lol and maybe some gummies or a light protein drink for between matches and plenty of water.
The worst feeling ever is if you cut weight and end up dehydrated...your muscles will only work for about 30 seconds and you will be powerless until rehydrated.
Also don't burn your forearms out in the first match from grabbing onto things as hard as you can lol
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Getting some hydrating amino acids and throwing it in water would be a pro tip as well in either scenario cutting or not cutting.
Below is an example not sure if the link will work.
https://www.amazon.com/LI[...]l&th=1
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RMBrown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm not sure how big that tournament usually is in terms of attendance, but it's worth keeping in mind that the women's divisions in regional competitions often end up being spontaneously merged into one big open class on the day. Happened a lot to some of my teammates at regional comps here in Germany - they spent a few weeks being really disciplined to make a specific weight, and then showed up to discover that there simply weren't enough competitors to run the division as originally planned. So they ended up fighting heavier opponents anyway, with the added detriment of being stressed and hungry.
Especially for your first competition, I'd say it's best to just show up well-rested, well-fed, and do your thing.
Especially for your first competition, I'd say it's best to just show up well-rested, well-fed, and do your thing.
BNPurple beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Eat whatever you want and sign up for the heavier division as they will prob just bump you up to that division anyways and then at least you will feel better and no stress.
For your first few competitions, I would echo this sentiment. Learning to compete is a "new skill" and there is no need to put too much pressure on yourself to do battle with the scale.... A friend of mine was in a similar position in his first competition as a blue belt and was keen to make the 185 pound weight class. While he made the weight, unfortunately his division got combined with the 210 weight class! In his case, he was able to win the division however he said it was quite stressful getting everything organized to make the actual weight.
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Thanks for the advice all around! I was 161.7 on the scale this morning so I should be able to hit my target in 9 days without getting too crazy. I won't worry about it too much though.
BMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Just eliminating fiber and sodium over the last 2 days before weigh-ins is good for about 4lbs for me, and I weigh about the same as you do.
Also, in my experience the scales always weigh light. I think the staff just doesn't want to deal with people complaining that the scales is wrong.
Also, in my experience the scales always weigh light. I think the staff just doesn't want to deal with people complaining that the scales is wrong.
ADPurple beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I think I'm going to sign up for my first competition, Illinois NewBreed on March 13th. I haven't weighed myself in a bit. Weighed myself this afternoon; 164.1 lbs (164.5 in a sports bra and grappling boxer shorts, which is probably how I'll be weighing in at the comp). So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161. What can I do in the next 10 days to cut the weight without killing myself? What should I go for in terms of diet, etc.? There's no one signed up in my target division yet so it's possible I'm worrying over nothing (I have an anxiety disorder, I overthink things), but I'd like to prepare as if there will actually be a match.
It's hard to respond to this without having a good idea of what you're eating usually.
When I did compete, I usually just cut the carbs to only once a day for two weeks and the weight fell off. I ended losing more weight than I would have liked each time, but at least that way I could have a good breakfast before the comp started.
When I did compete, I usually just cut the carbs to only once a day for two weeks and the weight fell off. I ended losing more weight than I would have liked each time, but at least that way I could have a good breakfast before the comp started.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Guys my advice was based on the fact that this really isn't cutting as it is only 2 or 3 lbs I just consider this weight management through managing water retention..
For day of weigh ins I personally don't cut weight I walk around at 220-225 and lust do Ultra but for pro shows with day before wigh ins I will go as low as 200. For me water cuts are easy I am a vegan nad can generally shed 25 lbs of water in 24 hours and put it right back on cutting can give more options on weight classes and increase the opportunity of good match ups..
For day of weigh ins I personally don't cut weight I walk around at 220-225 and lust do Ultra but for pro shows with day before wigh ins I will go as low as 200. For me water cuts are easy I am a vegan nad can generally shed 25 lbs of water in 24 hours and put it right back on cutting can give more options on weight classes and increase the opportunity of good match ups..
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JPBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Anything under 5lbs you can sweat off the night before in class. If you were cutting 20 to 25lbs, then you need a plan. For a few lbs., do some AM cardio, get a good sweat, and your golden. Honestly, you'll probably be in a combined weight class with a 40lb. swing anyway.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
It's hard to respond to this without having a good idea of what you're eating usually. When I did compete, I usually just cut the carbs to only once a day for two weeks and the weight fell off. I ended losing more weight than I would have liked each time, but at least that way I could have a good breakfast before the comp started.
I have a horrible diet! I had a fabulous metabolism when I was young and developed a lot of bad habits because I could get away with a lot. I probably eat out for breakfast and lunch 8-12 times a week, cycling through Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Indian and fast food (I love rice); it was not uncommon to grab a sandwich from McDonald's or Dunkin Donuts for breakfast. I did stop drinking cola in January and felt a lot better after that. I've been drinking Peach Lipton Iced Tea (100 calories/bottle) once a day or those diet zero-cal ICE sodas once a day (they have sucralose in them).
I've probably been eating 2300-2500 calories/day; I'd like to be eating 2000 or less. (Note: I'm outputting 20-26 oz breastmilk per day, I'm supposed to add 500 calories to my diet.)
I promised my husband I'd stop eating out so much this month, so maybe this competition prep is well-timed for helping me keep that promise. I've done pretty good this week.
Today I had a smoothie for breakfast, tuna salad, 1/2 an avocado, three small stuffed portabellos and a hard-boiled egg for lunch. Was gonna do pork chops and vegetables for dinner and a protein shake for a snack. I have not had anything but unsweetened water to drink.
I don't mind if the advice on this thread is more general "how to eat healthy" advice than "weight-cutting" advice. I am a chronic failure at eating healthy. I was 183 lbs when I started jiu-jitsu and it was mostly the pregnancy/breastfeeding that got me back to the early 160s. I'd be happier with my weight in general if I were 155 or less.
My big thing is that meals have to be fast and easy, or things that I can meal prep on a weekend. I love cooking but I have two disabled kids and a baby and a full-time job. I just don't have the time for elaborate dinners or weird ingredients anymore.
I've probably been eating 2300-2500 calories/day; I'd like to be eating 2000 or less. (Note: I'm outputting 20-26 oz breastmilk per day, I'm supposed to add 500 calories to my diet.)
I promised my husband I'd stop eating out so much this month, so maybe this competition prep is well-timed for helping me keep that promise. I've done pretty good this week.
Today I had a smoothie for breakfast, tuna salad, 1/2 an avocado, three small stuffed portabellos and a hard-boiled egg for lunch. Was gonna do pork chops and vegetables for dinner and a protein shake for a snack. I have not had anything but unsweetened water to drink.
I don't mind if the advice on this thread is more general "how to eat healthy" advice than "weight-cutting" advice. I am a chronic failure at eating healthy. I was 183 lbs when I started jiu-jitsu and it was mostly the pregnancy/breastfeeding that got me back to the early 160s. I'd be happier with my weight in general if I were 155 or less.
My big thing is that meals have to be fast and easy, or things that I can meal prep on a weekend. I love cooking but I have two disabled kids and a baby and a full-time job. I just don't have the time for elaborate dinners or weird ingredients anymore.
TPBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
So I was probably 162-163 this morning. I'm aiming for the 151-160 weight division, there's a 1-lb variance so I have to come in under 161.
I can only echo the other gentlemen in the thread...
Don't add the weight cut stress for your first tournament. Also I remember you writing that you're tall for a woman, so you probably won't have issues in the one class higher (at least I find grappling long limbs to be a bigger issue than a few kilos more).
BUT we're talking a 1-2 lbs cut here? That should be no issue at all.
You can probably even drop the weight quite a bit under fairly quick, and then eat a lot in the last few days before the comp to have the energy reserves full (this is what I like to do). Just avoid sodium if you do that, in case you have to sweat a little off before the scale.
Especially if you have "a horrible diet", the cut should be easy with a bit of a clean up. :) Good luck!
Don't add the weight cut stress for your first tournament. Also I remember you writing that you're tall for a woman, so you probably won't have issues in the one class higher (at least I find grappling long limbs to be a bigger issue than a few kilos more).
BUT we're talking a 1-2 lbs cut here? That should be no issue at all.
You can probably even drop the weight quite a bit under fairly quick, and then eat a lot in the last few days before the comp to have the energy reserves full (this is what I like to do). Just avoid sodium if you do that, in case you have to sweat a little off before the scale.
Especially if you have "a horrible diet", the cut should be easy with a bit of a clean up. :) Good luck!
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BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
160.8 this morning so yeah, I got this on the weight front.
Some other questions...
I am ridiculously tall (6'0" 182-183 cm) so I assume that if I get any fights, they will most likely be against shorter, denser women. What takedowns work well for my body type vs that body type?
In general, what strategies work well when you're tall with long legs fighting a shorter, denser person?
Some other questions...
I am ridiculously tall (6'0" 182-183 cm) so I assume that if I get any fights, they will most likely be against shorter, denser women. What takedowns work well for my body type vs that body type?
In general, what strategies work well when you're tall with long legs fighting a shorter, denser person?
JABlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
160.8 this morning so yeah, I got this on the weight front. Some other questions... I am ridiculously tall (6'0' 182-183 cm) so I assume that if I get any fights, they will most likely be against shorter, denser women. What takedowns work well for my body type vs that body type? In general, what strategies work well when you're tall with long legs fighting a shorter, denser person?
As a judo person, I'd say anything you start learning now is not gonna be there for your matches. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but for this one, guard pull. After this, I'd learn Tomoe-nage (circle throw) - my judo class is on Tuesdays at my school, so swing in. I'm also a fan of foot sweeps when people get into that defensive BJJ position.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
2 pounds is not a weight cut, that's just sleeping with a hoodie on and you sweat that out during the night.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Bridgett I usually suggest meal prep if that is a situation it keeps people focused on their goal a little better
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
2 pounds is not a weight cut, that's just sleeping with a hoodie on and you sweat that out during the night.
I did say it was a dumb question :-)
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
As a judo person, I'd say anything you start learning now is not gonna be there for your matches. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but for this one, guard pull. After this, I'd learn Tomoe-nage (circle throw) - my judo class is on Tuesdays at my school, so swing in. I'm also a fan of foot sweeps when people get into that defensive BJJ position.
What time is your class? And how long are you gonna be in Illinois before you move?
My coach just started nogi on Tuesday nights; first one is Tuesday. We are fortunate to have a female Judo black belt at my gym. Huge size difference (she's 5'1"ish 115 lbs) but she's amazing.
My coach just started nogi on Tuesday nights; first one is Tuesday. We are fortunate to have a female Judo black belt at my gym. Huge size difference (she's 5'1"ish 115 lbs) but she's amazing.
JABlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
What time is your class? And how long are you gonna be in Illinois before you move? My coach just started nogi on Tuesday nights; first one is Tuesday. We are fortunate to have a female Judo black belt at my gym. Huge size difference (she's 5'1'ish 115 lbs) but she's amazing.
Judo is at 7 PM till 8 then randori (free sparring till 9). I'll be moving to Atlanta in June.
BMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I don't mind if the advice on this thread is more general 'how to eat healthy' advice than 'weight-cutting' advice. I am a chronic failure at eating healthy...
Eating healthy and cutting weight for competitions are two very different things...
ADPurple beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
As a judo person, I'd say anything you start learning now is not gonna be there for your matches. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but for this one, guard pull. After this, I'd learn Tomoe-nage (circle throw) - my judo class is on Tuesdays at my school, so swing in. I'm also a fan of foot sweeps when people get into that defensive BJJ position.
This. When you're very tall, playing guard is a easy way to use your length to your advantage for a long period of time.
I usually go for takedowns when i compete out of pride, and because i enjoy it a lot but i'm ashamed to say my best performance in
match in competition was the only time i pulled guard.
I usually go for takedowns when i compete out of pride, and because i enjoy it a lot but i'm ashamed to say my best performance in
match in competition was the only time i pulled guard.
MBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
2 pounds is not a weight cut, that's just sleeping with a hoodie on and you sweat that out during the night.
You brought up memories of my daughter getting ready for nationals in wrestling. she would open the windows in her room and make it freezing at night, cover with just a thin sheet because the body trying to stay warm is burning. It also changes the way our body absorbs fat. I did a full research paper on cutting weight as part of my master's program thesis because I was actually just trying to lower my oil bill with all those winter windows open nights of her cutting weight!!!
MBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
By the way there are no dumb questions
I heard once "the only dumb question is the one that was not asked"
VBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I heard once 'the only dumb question is the one that was not asked'
The philosophical thoughts of megaton
MBlack beltVerified
VBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
BJBlue beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Today I stumbled stupidly into a gold in the NewBreed Women's Cruiserweight NoGi (points, 6-2 and 17-2) having attended just one nogi class on Tuesday night, and a bronze in Women's Cruiserweight gi, getting submitted by both a 25yo bodybuilder and the woman I'd beaten twice in nogi.
I was 157.6 this morning on the scales. 159.2 at weigh-in 3 hours later after eating breakfast and weighing in with my clothes on.
Thanks everyone for your advice!
I was 157.6 this morning on the scales. 159.2 at weigh-in 3 hours later after eating breakfast and weighing in with my clothes on.
Thanks everyone for your advice!
