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Looking at chokes academically

5 year(s) ago • 847 views • 11 replies

Nick Tyau
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5 year(s) ago
That's spectacular!
The primary author has other stuff published too. I will have to check some of that out
Jorgen Matsi
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5 year(s) ago
I'd assume given the study design and number of participants, the times by technique are not statistically significant.
Nick Tyau
Nick TyauOP
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5 year(s) ago
I'd assume given the study design and number of participants, the times by technique are not statistically significant.
Yes, design critiques aside. I’m just tickled they studied and published this period
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
Black belt 4th degreeVerified762 forum posts3915/1000
5 year(s) ago
Findings of the study
Whoever was doing the triangle choke was terrible at triangle chokes. That should have been way, way lower. Who did the chokes? This guy:

Jorgen Matsi
Jorgen Matsi
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5 year(s) ago
Another question is that considering the recent talks about strangles and strokes... How the hell did they get an ethics committee approval for that study?!?
Nick Tyau
Nick TyauOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000
5 year(s) ago
Another question is that considering the recent talks about strangles and strokes... How the hell did they get an ethics committee approval for that study?!?
Lol excellent point
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
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5 year(s) ago
Another question is that considering the recent talks about strangles and strokes... How the hell did they get an ethics committee approval for that study?!?
I am a little skeptical of the study for as I am thinking just for basic liability and health reasons it could be a huge issue.. Also how to the consistently monitor exactly how the choke is being technically applied.. Just way to many variables .. The last thing by personal experience in these chokes it doesn't make sense..

That said the more valid information of the mechanisms of submission both for technical data and safety is great
Sean Brandle
Sean Brandle
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5 year(s) ago
I am a little skeptical of the study for as I am thinking just for basic liability and health reasons it could be a huge issue.. Also how to the consistently monitor exactly how the choke is being technically applied.. Just way to many variables .. The last thing by personal experience in these chokes it doesn't make sense.. That said the more valid information of the mechanisms of submission both for technical data and safety is great
Taylor and Francis will publish ANYTHING. This isn't even junk science. It is junk opinion. The same author did a "study" on strokes and chokes. He used a convenience survey in a few online BJJ forums. He found that chokes are safe based on the responses of the people who frequent online forums that are geared towards BJJ. How many stroke victims are still doing BJJ or MMA? How many stroke victims are trolling around MMA.TV after the sport caused a stroke? Now I'm certain that BJJ is safe and that stroke isn't a major concern, but don't dip into a self-serving pool of participants and pretend it is science.

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