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Anyone ever done a JJIF tournament?
5 year(s) ago • 4645 views • 11 replies
JBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
My coaches Fernando Yamasaki and Francisco Neto used to do these tournaments a lot and are both ranked in this style. But I've never seen one of these tournaments in the US and don't know much about them. Anyone else ever been or competed at one of these?
https://jjif.sport/
https://jjif.sport/
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
As a teenager (from 14 to 21 years old, so a very long time ago) I competed quite a lot in Italy in JJIF specialties and I graduated to brown belt. Unfortunately I got then sidetracked by other martial arts. Their German branch nowadays is quite strong and organise ne-waza and jiu-jitsu tournament with the IBJJF rules and the support of the Abu-Dhabi World Pro federation.
JBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
As a teenager (from 14 to 21 years old, so a very long time ago) I competed quite a lot in Italy in JJIF specialties and I graduated to brown belt. Unfortunately I got then sidetracked by other martial arts. Their German branch nowadays is quite strong and organise ne-waza and jiu-jitsu tournament with the IBJJF rules and the support of the Abu-Dhabi World Pro federation.
That's cool. They are trying to create a presence in the US, apparently. I am sure we (Yamasaki people) will be doing these tournaments if that happens.
ANBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
actually was member of the national newaza team for like a year in germany, went to euros and other stuff...
while it is all very traditional from the training to the mindsets and all, not so super modern how i would have liked it to be
it is still promoting jiu jitsu so its not bad id say
they are still kinda in the build up phase with the newaza(bjj) its alot about athleticism and youth, most competitors are like blue/purple maybe brown hardly any blackbelts here in germany.
they got quite some good blackbelt coaches tho (and i mean bjj blackbelt)
newaza is kinda struggling a bit to get more recogintion with them what i noticed, much more attention goes to the other 2 branches the point fighting and those kata partner performances... at least in germany
while it is all very traditional from the training to the mindsets and all, not so super modern how i would have liked it to be
it is still promoting jiu jitsu so its not bad id say
they are still kinda in the build up phase with the newaza(bjj) its alot about athleticism and youth, most competitors are like blue/purple maybe brown hardly any blackbelts here in germany.
they got quite some good blackbelt coaches tho (and i mean bjj blackbelt)
newaza is kinda struggling a bit to get more recogintion with them what i noticed, much more attention goes to the other 2 branches the point fighting and those kata partner performances... at least in germany
SBrown beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
JJIF is big here in India...
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Yep, early '90. Before I discovered BJJ.
In Europe the Jiu-Jitsu Fighting System was a thing - actually quite popular. In the past Netherlands it was organized through the JBN (Dutch Judo Federation).
Think of a karate-judo mix.
No straight punches to the face allowed (only to the body), but you could kick the face - if memory serves.
You wore a gi.
Limited time on the ground, but pretty much all submissions allowed, except fingerlocks.
You could win by scoring 3 ippons in a match. Otherwise, ref decision based on agression.
A clean strike while standing or in the clinch.
A clean takedown or throw.
A pin or submission.
It was fun. I actually got my black belt in that system (JBN jiu jitsu).
While it was all taught quite rudimentarily, it did offer a wide skillset.
I was able to pick up many other styles (judo, karate, capoeira, wing chun, and later BJJ / wrestling) relatively easily, because I had a decent understanding of different fighting ranges.
In Europe the Jiu-Jitsu Fighting System was a thing - actually quite popular. In the past Netherlands it was organized through the JBN (Dutch Judo Federation).
Think of a karate-judo mix.
No straight punches to the face allowed (only to the body), but you could kick the face - if memory serves.
You wore a gi.
Limited time on the ground, but pretty much all submissions allowed, except fingerlocks.
You could win by scoring 3 ippons in a match. Otherwise, ref decision based on agression.
A clean strike while standing or in the clinch.
A clean takedown or throw.
A pin or submission.
It was fun. I actually got my black belt in that system (JBN jiu jitsu).
While it was all taught quite rudimentarily, it did offer a wide skillset.
I was able to pick up many other styles (judo, karate, capoeira, wing chun, and later BJJ / wrestling) relatively easily, because I had a decent understanding of different fighting ranges.
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MGPurple beltVerified
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
My coaches Fernando Yamasaki and Francisco Neto used to do these tournaments a lot and are both ranked in this style. But I've never seen one of these tournaments in the US and don't know much about them. Anyone else ever been or competed at one of these? https://jjif.sport/
Joe,
If memory serves, the Yamasaki's had quite a strong presence in the south of the Netherlands. Cadu Francis rans a few clubs for them. They also organised the first dutch open, in which i competed & somehow medaled, despite losing a few times and trying to navigate a bewildering chaos of rule inconsistencies and brazilian nepotism.
Anyway, small world.
If memory serves, the Yamasaki's had quite a strong presence in the south of the Netherlands. Cadu Francis rans a few clubs for them. They also organised the first dutch open, in which i competed & somehow medaled, despite losing a few times and trying to navigate a bewildering chaos of rule inconsistencies and brazilian nepotism.
Anyway, small world.
JBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Joe, If memory serves, the Yamasaki's had quite a strong presence in the south of the Netherlands. Cadu Francis rans a few clubs for them. They also organised the first dutch open, in which i competed & somehow medaled, despite losing a few times and trying to navigate a bewildering chaos of rule inconsistencies and brazilian nepotism. Anyway, small world.
Yep, Cadu moved over there many years ago. He used to teach a lot at the location where I was, known him a long time.
BBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I'm a part of the organization (United States Spor Jujitsu Coalition) that's trying to expand U.S. involvement with JJIF. The issue is that the current "NGB" that the JJIF recognizes here is pretty much just a board of directors with no member schools or organizers. The Coalition is hoping to change that. If anyone got get ne-waza/bjj Olympic status, it's the JJIF, as they already have the endorsement of both the Europen and Asian Olympic committees, and also because they're a non-profit organization. The mindset is different, as someone alluded to in a previous comment, as it's more of an Olympic mindset versus a club sport mindset. There are no skill level gradients. It's assumed you're an expert when you compete. This will probably be distasteful for many who are used to the belt level/skill level paradigm. But, the pre existing tournaments will of course still be there for them.
I have competed in similar organizations that predated the JJIF. Namely the World Council of Ju-Jitsu Organizations (wcjjo) and the now mostly defunct International Sport Jujitsu Association (ISJA).
I have competed in similar organizations that predated the JJIF. Namely the World Council of Ju-Jitsu Organizations (wcjjo) and the now mostly defunct International Sport Jujitsu Association (ISJA).
MCBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
You could win by scoring 3 ippons in a match. Otherwise, ref decision based on agression. A clean strike while standing or in the clinch. A clean takedown or throw. A pin or submission. It was fun.
Here's an old video of me doing just that: https://youtu.be/y_c492K0vxA
The video quality is horrible, so some imagination will be needed.
The video quality is horrible, so some imagination will be needed.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Here's an old video of me doing just that: https://youtu.be/y_c492K0vxA The video quality is horrible, so some imagination will be needed.
Very cool.
It's strange.
When I first started BJJ, I got routinely destroyed by people who'd only been training a few months. So I kind of dismissed my own roots in Jiu-Jitsu Fighting System. But when I look at some of that footage now, it still looks pretty badass and well-rounded.
It's strange.
When I first started BJJ, I got routinely destroyed by people who'd only been training a few months. So I kind of dismissed my own roots in Jiu-Jitsu Fighting System. But when I look at some of that footage now, it still looks pretty badass and well-rounded.
MCBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Thanks. For a long time it was the coolest thing we had around here and the only jiu-jitsu we knew at the time. I think it has helped me in BJJ, especially when I'm on my feet, but also because we used to use some pins and positions that are often neglected in BJJ which can be well integrated in one's game.
