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Competing Injured
5 year(s) ago • 3727 views • 11 replies
JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
By injured I mostly mean one of your limbs not working properly or a hip or something preventing the function of one of them.
What are the most annoying injuries to compete with and do you still compete with any injury or strain that makes the function of one or more of your limbs difficult?
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I have a tournament tomorrow and my entire lower left side just feels crushed more so than usual. lol Knee, hamstring, hip, hip flexor etc. Upper body actually feels semi ok for once though. In a strange twist of fate I normally pull guard because of my upper body injuries but now I almost feel like going for a takedown because of the reverse. lol
Probably about 20 or so of the 31 tournaments I've done so far I've had at least 1 out of 4 limbs injured or strained to some extent. I have definitely noticed my win percentage is close to only 50% when injured and above 70% when not. But the injuries also force you to improvise and use different game plans which in return sometimes show you additional weaknesses you had that may have got you to train areas that you would not have.
So another question would be...do you think competing injured is a smart thing, a dumb thing, or good only to a certain extent? Or maybe also depends on the skill level of competition?
I've competed with a broken arm, did 4 matches after it got broke once and it wasn't near as bad as I thought it would be but I was also lucky that I was only a white belt then, I am sure in any higher belt division the injury would of been noticed much more and I would of made it a lot worse. Felt the worst on the day after.
The most annoying thing for me personally I guess is when I have bad hip flexor or abductor adductor strains that prevent that use of me playing guard the way I would like or sweeping. I've probably had 6 or 7 tournaments where I strained something really bad just 2 or 3 days before the tournament and if I had to compete just 1 or 2 days before I am not sure I would of been able to but managed to heal up just enough to compete on the day of and get through them.
I guess the final question/thing I am curious about is...I almost feel like competing injured at white belt isn't near as big of a deal as say it might be at purple belt and higher as in the more advanced divisions someone is much more likely to be able to target an injury if say it is more of a joint injury like an elbow or knee and it may not then be as smart to compete with such an injury in the more advanced divisions and also the skill gap even though it may be very broad I feel like their is also so much less room for error and it might drastically reduce your chances of success in the higher level skill brackets?
Or is just everyone always injured? And you just end up with good cripple fights? lol
What are the most annoying injuries to compete with and do you still compete with any injury or strain that makes the function of one or more of your limbs difficult?
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I have a tournament tomorrow and my entire lower left side just feels crushed more so than usual. lol Knee, hamstring, hip, hip flexor etc. Upper body actually feels semi ok for once though. In a strange twist of fate I normally pull guard because of my upper body injuries but now I almost feel like going for a takedown because of the reverse. lol
Probably about 20 or so of the 31 tournaments I've done so far I've had at least 1 out of 4 limbs injured or strained to some extent. I have definitely noticed my win percentage is close to only 50% when injured and above 70% when not. But the injuries also force you to improvise and use different game plans which in return sometimes show you additional weaknesses you had that may have got you to train areas that you would not have.
So another question would be...do you think competing injured is a smart thing, a dumb thing, or good only to a certain extent? Or maybe also depends on the skill level of competition?
I've competed with a broken arm, did 4 matches after it got broke once and it wasn't near as bad as I thought it would be but I was also lucky that I was only a white belt then, I am sure in any higher belt division the injury would of been noticed much more and I would of made it a lot worse. Felt the worst on the day after.
The most annoying thing for me personally I guess is when I have bad hip flexor or abductor adductor strains that prevent that use of me playing guard the way I would like or sweeping. I've probably had 6 or 7 tournaments where I strained something really bad just 2 or 3 days before the tournament and if I had to compete just 1 or 2 days before I am not sure I would of been able to but managed to heal up just enough to compete on the day of and get through them.
I guess the final question/thing I am curious about is...I almost feel like competing injured at white belt isn't near as big of a deal as say it might be at purple belt and higher as in the more advanced divisions someone is much more likely to be able to target an injury if say it is more of a joint injury like an elbow or knee and it may not then be as smart to compete with such an injury in the more advanced divisions and also the skill gap even though it may be very broad I feel like their is also so much less room for error and it might drastically reduce your chances of success in the higher level skill brackets?
Or is just everyone always injured? And you just end up with good cripple fights? lol
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JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
Well, I'd just advise to give some thought to the question "why". And the larger outside and inside (persons own mental space) contexts matter.
Obviously doing anything physical injured (esp a contact sport game, including competitive ball games etc) hugely increases the chance of other/further injury.
And humans are rather bad at perceiving non-tangible abstract risks...
I think I'm rather lucky in the sense that I've never been inured close to a competition to really make myself weigh the options.
Obviously doing anything physical injured (esp a contact sport game, including competitive ball games etc) hugely increases the chance of other/further injury.
And humans are rather bad at perceiving non-tangible abstract risks...
I think I'm rather lucky in the sense that I've never been inured close to a competition to really make myself weigh the options.
MGPurple beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I also ask the question why? Does your livelihood depend on Jiu Jitsu tournaments? If not, the wise thing to do is take some time off to heal before you cause a more serious and potentially permanent injury. This coming from a person that has a permanent injury from Jiu Jitsu.
JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
I also ask the question why? Does your livelihood depend on Jiu Jitsu tournaments? If not, the wise thing to do is take some time off to heal before you cause a more serious and potentially permanent injury. This coming from a person that has a permanent injury from Jiu Jitsu.
Almost 35 which I know is not "old". But after around 28 or so just about every injury became more of a permanent thing and never fully heals. lol
And more of to learn while able. As I get older and as you increase in rank your opportunities to compete at least at a regional level get less and less. Less matches etc.
So while I am able I am trying to as much as I can while I can as I know the future will be less and less.
And more of to learn while able. As I get older and as you increase in rank your opportunities to compete at least at a regional level get less and less. Less matches etc.
So while I am able I am trying to as much as I can while I can as I know the future will be less and less.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
If I didn't compete with injuries I would not be competing
JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
If I didn't compete with injuries I would not be competing
Yea that is kind of how I feel at this point.
Both of my knees and hamstrings are bothering me now and catching at extension some. I want to try stretching and strengthening the areas around them...
But stretching bothers my right leg and trying to do light weight deadlifts or squats etc bother my left knee...so I guess might have to take a week off sparring and just let them rest then go back to trying to stretch and strengthen.
Strangely in the tournament this last weekend didn't bother me to much maybe because of just adrenaline. But the 2 days before I could hardly walk and the day after I could hardly walk normal lol. So Imma try not to be a fool and see what a week from not sparring will do for me and probably avoid playing guard or guard passing for a couple weeks and just work on defense maybe from being mounted, side controlled or back taken. Just everything above the waist.
Both of my knees and hamstrings are bothering me now and catching at extension some. I want to try stretching and strengthening the areas around them...
But stretching bothers my right leg and trying to do light weight deadlifts or squats etc bother my left knee...so I guess might have to take a week off sparring and just let them rest then go back to trying to stretch and strengthen.
Strangely in the tournament this last weekend didn't bother me to much maybe because of just adrenaline. But the 2 days before I could hardly walk and the day after I could hardly walk normal lol. So Imma try not to be a fool and see what a week from not sparring will do for me and probably avoid playing guard or guard passing for a couple weeks and just work on defense maybe from being mounted, side controlled or back taken. Just everything above the waist.
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
5 year(s) ago
I've competed while injured or sick. Most of my success came when I competed with an injury (broken wrist @ 2014 nationals silver, rib injury @ NLO double silver), or when I was feeling a bit sick (some small-time gold/podium placements).
Don't compete if you have something torn or broken. It's just asking for more damage. Fingers & toes are always fcked up, so those don't count.
Don't compete if you have something torn or broken. It's just asking for more damage. Fingers & toes are always fcked up, so those don't count.
MGPurple beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Never compete when you have diarrhea.
JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Never compete when you have diarrhea.
I'm always farting. I'm farting right now.
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JGBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
October of 2020 I was slammed on my shoulder in training and it compressed my AC joint. Caused a small tear to my rotator cuff, a small tear to my labrum, and impinged my short head bicep tendon. I was signed up for AGF Tulsa for December. I had just finished 5 weeks of physical therapy and had near full range of motion but still couldn't push with my left are because the impingement on the bicep tendon.
I decided to be stupid and do my tournament anyway. Even though I hadn't trained since October and had atrophy going on pretty bad in my shoulders and chest due to not being able to use them significantly. Anyways, I had a NOGI bracket where they moved me up in weight class and a GI bracket in my normal weight class.
Very first match I did a snapdown and a jolt of pain just went down my neck and throughout my arm. I knew it was going to be bad from there. Anyways, took second place in NOGI and first place in GI. Honestly lost in NOGI because I was being dumb and cocky because I was up by over 10 points.
The day after the tournament through end of February 2021 I couldn't move my arm over my chest level. I am still injured. I have literally done 3 MRIs on my shoulder and 1 MRI on my back and 1 MRI on my collarbone/neck. They still cannot find out what is causing my impingement which is making it to where I can't workout my chest or shoulders. Next step is exploratory surgery which I am waiting to schedule out. I was roughly 235 when this injury happened but now I am down to 195 with a ton of muscle loss on my chest, shoulders, back.
It's depressing to say the least.
I decided to be stupid and do my tournament anyway. Even though I hadn't trained since October and had atrophy going on pretty bad in my shoulders and chest due to not being able to use them significantly. Anyways, I had a NOGI bracket where they moved me up in weight class and a GI bracket in my normal weight class.
Very first match I did a snapdown and a jolt of pain just went down my neck and throughout my arm. I knew it was going to be bad from there. Anyways, took second place in NOGI and first place in GI. Honestly lost in NOGI because I was being dumb and cocky because I was up by over 10 points.
The day after the tournament through end of February 2021 I couldn't move my arm over my chest level. I am still injured. I have literally done 3 MRIs on my shoulder and 1 MRI on my back and 1 MRI on my collarbone/neck. They still cannot find out what is causing my impingement which is making it to where I can't workout my chest or shoulders. Next step is exploratory surgery which I am waiting to schedule out. I was roughly 235 when this injury happened but now I am down to 195 with a ton of muscle loss on my chest, shoulders, back.
It's depressing to say the least.
JJBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
October of 2020 I was slammed on my shoulder in training and it compressed my AC joint. Caused a small tear to my rotator cuff, a small tear to my labrum, and impinged my short head bicep tendon. I was signed up for AGF Tulsa for December. I had just finished 5 weeks of physical therapy and had near full range of motion but still couldn't push with my left are because the impingement on the bicep tendon. I decided to be stupid and do my tournament anyway. Even though I hadn't trained since October and had atrophy going on pretty bad in my shoulders and chest due to not being able to use them significantly. Anyways, I had a NOGI bracket where they moved me up in weight class and a GI bracket in my normal weight class. Very first match I did a snapdown and a jolt of pain just went down my neck and throughout my arm. I knew it was going to be bad from there. Anyways, took second place in NOGI and first place in GI. Honestly lost in NOGI because I was being dumb and cocky because I was up by over 10 points. The day after the tournament through end of February 2021 I couldn't move my arm over my chest level. I am still injured. I have literally done 3 MRIs on my shoulder and 1 MRI on my back and 1 MRI on my collarbone/neck. They still cannot find out what is causing my impingement which is making it to where I can't workout my chest or shoulders. Next step is exploratory surgery which I am waiting to schedule out. I was roughly 235 when this injury happened but now I am down to 195 with a ton of muscle loss on my chest, shoulders, back. It's depressing to say the least.
Both my shoulders are bad. I can barely bench press 135 pounds without being strained.
Look up Thoracic Outlet Syndrome
Look up Thoracic Outlet Syndrome
JGBlack beltVerified
5 year(s) ago
Both my shoulders are bad. I can barely bench press 135 pounds without being strained. Look up Thoracic Outlet Syndrome
My issues are a little different than Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. TOS was one of my early issues with this but that has since been fixed! Pro's of having a best friend whos a D.P.T! haha!
