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Knee Bars & Foot Locks from Half Guard
4 year(s) ago • 6323 views • 22 replies
BEBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
What do we need to watch while playing half guard to avoid being caught by Knee bars & Foot locks? Is there any instructional that can help explain this?
DBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
The modern game does a lot of back stepping which opens up a ton of leg locks. Sadly the only counters I have are mostly timing related ... which sucks when you're going against someone fast. If I'm early, I work the jedi mind trick, check Lachlan Giles half guard instructional for details. You have to really trap the inside knee. If I don't get that, I have to start initiating reverse half guard sweeps while uke is back stepping (mostly by controlling uke's inside leg). If I miss that, I figure 4 my leg that is about to be attacked and then start playing leg lock defense (which mostly results in tapping :( )
Just found this, how to address it while it is happening for the sweep setup:
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]_oUz-F_eWs
Just found this, how to address it while it is happening for the sweep setup:
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]_oUz-F_eWs
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JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Sadly the only counters I have are mostly timing related ...
What would be a non-timing-related counter to ANYTHING really?
DBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
What would be a non-timing-related counter to ANYTHING really?
One's where a simple grip changes the dynamic for instance. Or one's where you don't have to rush as you slow down the position. The back step leglocks come pretty quickly.
HBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Always have upper body control from bottom half. This negates most leg attacks. If you have shitty body control you will always lose the leg game.
Lockdown also stops most backsteps as it controls the hip.
Lockdown also stops most backsteps as it controls the hip.
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
What would be a non-timing-related counter to ANYTHING really?
Holding a closed guard for dear life.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Holding a closed guard for dear life.
I've successfully implemented that in a few IBJJF rules matches :)
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Don't be lazy with your top leg.
Don't be lazy with your bottom leg.
Follow the opponent's chest and stay close to it.
Keep these in mind and the opponent shouldn't have a great chance to get past your knee line for attacks.
Don't be lazy with your bottom leg.
Follow the opponent's chest and stay close to it.
Keep these in mind and the opponent shouldn't have a great chance to get past your knee line for attacks.
BWBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
What do we need to watch while playing half guard to avoid being caught by Knee bars & Foot locks? Is there any instructional that can help explain this?
https://www.youtube.com/w[...]9FTVoD7ioo
not specific to half guard, but I found it to be a good breakdown to help you understand what makes foot locks work and not work
not specific to half guard, but I found it to be a good breakdown to help you understand what makes foot locks work and not work
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Opponent going for leg attack when passing is an opportunity to get top without having to work for a sweep :)
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Holding a closed guard for dear life.
I might suggest that for next Globetrotters camp as a topic:
"How to keep closed guard like Helio - till your opponent falls asleep."
I think to this day the following holds true: no Estonian's closed guard has been opened in competition by their opponent ;)
"How to keep closed guard like Helio - till your opponent falls asleep."
I think to this day the following holds true: no Estonian's closed guard has been opened in competition by their opponent ;)
BEBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Thank you all for such great responses. Much appreciated
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
I think to this day the following holds true: no Estonian's closed guard has been opened in competition by their opponent ;)
Not even by other Estonians?
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Not even by other Estonians?
Well, local whitebelts going against each other doesn't count. But in general yes - if an Estonian does not want their closed guard opened, it won't happen. The hardest to deal with are the newschool-oldschool smash openings like Wim loves.
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Now I'm curious. Why? Attitude? Technique adjustments? Estonian wrestle-jitsu which I respect very much?
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Now I'm curious. Why? Attitude? Technique adjustments? Estonian wrestle-jitsu which I respect very much?
Nothing to do with wrestle-jitsu :D The spirit is anti-that.
In the end it's stalling in the best tradition of Helio that has it's only real use for to be used to keep safe point advantage under IBJJF ruleset when necessary.
It's just a systematic set in regards how to counter closed guard breaks in the gi.
In the end it's stalling in the best tradition of Helio that has it's only real use for to be used to keep safe point advantage under IBJJF ruleset when necessary.
It's just a systematic set in regards how to counter closed guard breaks in the gi.
JRBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
New Challenge. Look for an estonian and try to open their guard!
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
New Challenge. Look for an estonian and try to open their guard!
It'd be hard to find Estonians who would like to engage in prolonged closed guard stallfests these days :D
We have changed the ways of teaching as well, hardly ever spend time for staying on closed guard bottom anymore... So I guess the statement doesn't stand anymore :D
We have changed the ways of teaching as well, hardly ever spend time for staying on closed guard bottom anymore... So I guess the statement doesn't stand anymore :D
JRBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
You got some of this new wrestlejitzu from bottom
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
New Challenge. Look for an estonian and try to open their guard!
"How to open every Estonian closed guard", my future class for BJJ Globetrotters Spring Camp.
Brought to you by the guy who taught:
- attacks from the closed guard right before Wim Deputter's class on stacking into the closed guard,
- sweeps from side control right before Priit Mihkelson's class on being unsweepable,
- ground and pound right in front of a UFC fighter.
Brought to you by the guy who taught:
- attacks from the closed guard right before Wim Deputter's class on stacking into the closed guard,
- sweeps from side control right before Priit Mihkelson's class on being unsweepable,
- ground and pound right in front of a UFC fighter.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
You got some of this new wrestlejitzu from bottom
Yes, I can't wait until my "Hot singles in your area" class comes out on Globetrotters in Action :D You'll love that.
DHPurple beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Yes, I can't wait until my 'Hot singles in your area' class comes out on Globetrotters in Action :D You'll love that.
Gis Gone Wild?
