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Brand Spanking New Brown Belt
4 year(s) ago • 2849 views • 23 replies
Brown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hey gang, i’m almost forty years into my Martial Arts journey, I started in Judo at 13, and got my Black Belt at 19. A couple weeks ago, after 9 years and 10 months in BJJ I received my Brown Belt. It feels really different. When i got my Black Belt I was tested for hours with a pretty ridiculous amount of knowledge and techniques, at the end, it was easy to feel like I had the requisite knowledge to be qualified to hold that rank. They say that if you don’t feel ready, that kind of humility is a sign that you are, and I absolutely trust my Professor to make that decision. I’ve had nothing but positive reinforcement and encouragement regarding my new rank, but i still find myself watching lower ranks doing cool-ass shit and i ask myself, “as a Brown Belt, should I already know that” How did you guys feel and what’s the best way to approach the expectations that accompany a higher rank? Thanks in advance.
Black beltVerifiedEngland - UK
4 year(s) ago
I am currently trying to improve parts of my game (mainly blue and purple) and I realised I know shit.
Brown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I am currently trying to improve parts of my game (mainly blue and purple) and I realised I know shit.
I hear ya brother :)
Black beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I'm in a same boat as you are, especially when we got promoted to brown on the same day on December 18th 2021.
On every promotion I have felt that I'm not ready for the belt. That feeling usually goes away eventually. I would think that no one in your gym feels that you have to prove anything. Your training partners and yourself should trust the judgement of your coach. As a brown belt you are a real badass no matter what.
It is kind of a cliché that everyone has their individual journey, but there is a lot of truth in that, especially when you get older. I'm in my mid 40's and had several bulging disks in my lower back and neck. So there is no way in hell that I would start experimenting with berimbolos. I might try them just to see how they (dont't) work for me. I try to roll with people who are better than me with those moves and try to think ways to counter them. That is what makes it interesting, you learn how to counter and your training partner sees what they have to improve with that said move. In my opinion there is no shame to "lose" rolls in the gym or tap to any belt. You live, learn and improve as you go.
The truth is that there is not a single person in the world who know everything there is to know about jiu-jitsu. If someone claims that they are full of shit.
Congrats on your promotion and have a happy new year.
On every promotion I have felt that I'm not ready for the belt. That feeling usually goes away eventually. I would think that no one in your gym feels that you have to prove anything. Your training partners and yourself should trust the judgement of your coach. As a brown belt you are a real badass no matter what.
It is kind of a cliché that everyone has their individual journey, but there is a lot of truth in that, especially when you get older. I'm in my mid 40's and had several bulging disks in my lower back and neck. So there is no way in hell that I would start experimenting with berimbolos. I might try them just to see how they (dont't) work for me. I try to roll with people who are better than me with those moves and try to think ways to counter them. That is what makes it interesting, you learn how to counter and your training partner sees what they have to improve with that said move. In my opinion there is no shame to "lose" rolls in the gym or tap to any belt. You live, learn and improve as you go.
The truth is that there is not a single person in the world who know everything there is to know about jiu-jitsu. If someone claims that they are full of shit.
Congrats on your promotion and have a happy new year.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Congrats on the poop belt! Welcome to the club. It's a fun time. People expect you to know a lot of stuff and you can surprise them by proving them wrong. No, wait...
Brown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I'm in a same boat as you are, especially when we got promoted to brown on the same day on December 18th 2021.
Congratulations to you as well!
I started in judo, so you already know that my shoulders and knees are jacked up. Three ACL surgeries, a 3rd degree AC separation and a torn rotator cuff as well as surgery for an L4/L5 herniation…so I get it.
For the last 6 months or so I have been solidly "working my deficiencies", so there's been a lot of tapping, not everyone understands specific training like that, especially newer belts but if they want to convince themselves that they "dominated" a higher rank because they were working on the weakest points of their game, I suppose they do that at their own peril ;)
I started in judo, so you already know that my shoulders and knees are jacked up. Three ACL surgeries, a 3rd degree AC separation and a torn rotator cuff as well as surgery for an L4/L5 herniation…so I get it.
For the last 6 months or so I have been solidly "working my deficiencies", so there's been a lot of tapping, not everyone understands specific training like that, especially newer belts but if they want to convince themselves that they "dominated" a higher rank because they were working on the weakest points of their game, I suppose they do that at their own peril ;)
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hey gang, i’m almost forty years into my Martial Arts journey, I started in Judo at 13, and got my Black Belt at 19. A couple weeks ago, after 9 years and 10 months in BJJ I received my Brown Belt. It feels really different. When i got my Black Belt I was tested for hours with a pretty ridiculous amount of knowledge and techniques, at the end, it was easy to feel like I had the requisite knowledge to be qualified to hold that rank. They say that if you don’t feel ready, that kind of humility is a sign that you are, and I absolutely trust my Professor to make that decision. I’ve had nothing but positive reinforcement and encouragement regarding my new rank, but i still find myself watching lower ranks doing cool-ass shit and i ask myself, “as a Brown Belt, should I already know that” How did you guys feel and what’s the best way to approach the expectations that accompany a higher rank? Thanks in advance.
Just realized in BJJ it's a little different, you are tested everyday on the MAT. So when you do get your promotion you have earned it by the years and months grinding on the mat.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
but i still find myself watching lower ranks doing cool-ass shit and i ask myself, “as a Brown Belt, should I already know that” How did you guys feel and what’s the best way to approach the expectations that accompany a higher rank? Thanks in advance.
Shouldn't be too much of an assault on your ego to ask some of these guys what they're doing, if you're curious, right? I'm sure they'd be happy to explain it to you!
Personally, when I see an effective competition system/strategy/move/approach etc, I will usually take some time to make myself something like a "side project", if only to understand exactly what the hell is going on. Some things will take longer than others. For example, I was able to work the "Shaolin sweep" into my game after drilling for about 3 months, and dedicating my spare drilling time exclusively to this move. I taught myself to invert in a similar fashion (I thought upside down guards were really cool) and I was comfortably inverting here and there after about 9 months. On the other hand, I've been working on rolling back takes (berimbolo, truck position etc) for like 2 years now and I'm still having a lot of trouble with it.
But do you NEED to know all this stuff to be a "legit" brown belt? I don't think so, personally. Theoretically solid fundamentals will beat everything else, up to only the most competitive levels of competition.
Congrats on your promotion, and I'm sure you'll "grow into" your new belt. :)
Personally, when I see an effective competition system/strategy/move/approach etc, I will usually take some time to make myself something like a "side project", if only to understand exactly what the hell is going on. Some things will take longer than others. For example, I was able to work the "Shaolin sweep" into my game after drilling for about 3 months, and dedicating my spare drilling time exclusively to this move. I taught myself to invert in a similar fashion (I thought upside down guards were really cool) and I was comfortably inverting here and there after about 9 months. On the other hand, I've been working on rolling back takes (berimbolo, truck position etc) for like 2 years now and I'm still having a lot of trouble with it.
But do you NEED to know all this stuff to be a "legit" brown belt? I don't think so, personally. Theoretically solid fundamentals will beat everything else, up to only the most competitive levels of competition.
Congrats on your promotion, and I'm sure you'll "grow into" your new belt. :)
Brown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Shouldn't be too much of an assault on your ego to ask some of these guys what they're doing, if you're curious, right? I'm sure they'd be happy to explain it to you! Personally, when I see an effective competition system/strategy/move/approach etc, I will usually take some time to make myself something like a 'side project', if only to understand exactly what the hell is going on. Some things will take longer than others. For example, I was able to work the 'Shaolin sweep' into my game after drilling for about 3 months, and dedicating my spare drilling time exclusively to this move. I taught myself to invert in a similar fashion (I thought upside down guards were really cool) and I was comfortably inverting here and there after about 9 months. On the other hand, I've been working on rolling back takes (berimbolo, truck position etc) for like 2 years now and I'm still having a lot of trouble with it. But do you NEED to know all this stuff to be a 'legit' brown belt? I don't think so, personally. Theoretically solid fundamentals will beat everything else, up to only the most competitive levels of competition. Congrats on your promotion, and I'm sure you'll 'grow into' your new belt. :)
Nope, not an ego thing at all, I went from wearing a black belt in Judo to a white belt in BJJ, so that should tell you something. To be clear, it’s not that they know something I don’t, that’s not a big deal, it’s that I ask myself if it’s something I “should” know at my level.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nope, not an ego thing at all, I went from wearing a black belt in Judo to a white belt in BJJ, so that should tell you something. To be clear, it’s not that they know something I don’t, that’s not a big deal, it’s that I ask myself if it’s something I “should” know at my level.
Right on. I guess it would depend on what your eventual goals are. Personally, I'm an instructor as well as a casual competitor, so I try to make it a point for myself to at least be informed about what is happening on the cutting edge of competition BJJ, as well as at least be aware of basic, BJJ-related self-defense stuff. In addition to this, I think it's important to have a clear idea of the history of BJJ (have you read "Opening Closed Guard" by Robert Drysdale? If not, you should). Otherwise, if you trust your instructor, they should be able to let you know what else you may need to help fill in the gaps.
This is just my two cents anyway. Congrats again on your promotion!
This is just my two cents anyway. Congrats again on your promotion!
Black beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Congrats on the Brown Belt!
I'm also in my 40's and got promoted to brown 2 days ago, after 2.5 years at Purple.
My take on the "impostor syndrome" that you seem that have, is to accept that BJJ is so rich that nobody will ever know everything, but you most likely have a couple of areas where your depth of knowledge allows you to coach or fine-tune anyone.
The learning won't stop at black belt either!
keep rolling and identifying areas that can be improved, it can anything from trying to finish a roll less out-of-breath to diving into deep systems like Keenan's Lapel guard or specializing in everything aspect of the 50/50 or the modern leg lock entanglements and disentanglements ^^
I personally like to look at all sort of "cool shit" that the young folks do, curiosity, challenge, R&D, but not everything has to make it into our games.
Yesterday I was getting coached on the Octopus Guard by a blue-belt and a purple belt.
I watch tons of video series (Lachlan, Craig, Wim, Danaher, etc.) and two of the black belts at my gym have been coming to me for details on the leg lock game all the time even when I was a purple.
Belt don't mean that much in the big picture, there are huge variations.
in attachment is my attempt at visualizing belt color and the distribution of "ability".
all of this is subjective, but it reflects my experience.
some competition focused purple or even blue belts will give out-of-shape middle-aged brown or black belts a hard time, but on average the depth of knowledge and general ability goes up with each belt level. There will be outliers on both end of the spectrum, and I think it's totally fine at any belt to get tapped by a lower belt, especially in training, where it shouldn't be competitive rolls all the time anyway (roll to improve vs roll to prove)
as far as belt-specific training goes (IBJJF rule set for competition), just as at Blue we unlocked wrist locks (and single leg takedown with head outside)
now at Brow we unlocked : Slicers (calf & Biceps), Knee bar, toe-holds, and with the 2021 no-gi changes, also reaping and heel hooks.
so I think all of us fresh browns need to work a bit more on these in 2022 : )
cheers!
I'm also in my 40's and got promoted to brown 2 days ago, after 2.5 years at Purple.
My take on the "impostor syndrome" that you seem that have, is to accept that BJJ is so rich that nobody will ever know everything, but you most likely have a couple of areas where your depth of knowledge allows you to coach or fine-tune anyone.
The learning won't stop at black belt either!
keep rolling and identifying areas that can be improved, it can anything from trying to finish a roll less out-of-breath to diving into deep systems like Keenan's Lapel guard or specializing in everything aspect of the 50/50 or the modern leg lock entanglements and disentanglements ^^
I personally like to look at all sort of "cool shit" that the young folks do, curiosity, challenge, R&D, but not everything has to make it into our games.
Yesterday I was getting coached on the Octopus Guard by a blue-belt and a purple belt.
I watch tons of video series (Lachlan, Craig, Wim, Danaher, etc.) and two of the black belts at my gym have been coming to me for details on the leg lock game all the time even when I was a purple.
Belt don't mean that much in the big picture, there are huge variations.
in attachment is my attempt at visualizing belt color and the distribution of "ability".
all of this is subjective, but it reflects my experience.
some competition focused purple or even blue belts will give out-of-shape middle-aged brown or black belts a hard time, but on average the depth of knowledge and general ability goes up with each belt level. There will be outliers on both end of the spectrum, and I think it's totally fine at any belt to get tapped by a lower belt, especially in training, where it shouldn't be competitive rolls all the time anyway (roll to improve vs roll to prove)
as far as belt-specific training goes (IBJJF rule set for competition), just as at Blue we unlocked wrist locks (and single leg takedown with head outside)
now at Brow we unlocked : Slicers (calf & Biceps), Knee bar, toe-holds, and with the 2021 no-gi changes, also reaping and heel hooks.
so I think all of us fresh browns need to work a bit more on these in 2022 : )
cheers!

Brown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Congrats on the Brown Belt! I'm also in my 40's and got promoted to brown 2 days ago, after 2.5 years at Purple. My take on the 'impostor syndrome' that you seem that have, is to accept that BJJ is so rich that nobody will ever know everything, but you most likely have a couple of areas where your depth of knowledge allows you to coach or fine-tune anyone. The learning won't stop at black belt either! keep rolling and identifying areas that can be improved, it can anything from trying to finish a roll less out-of-breath to diving into deep systems like Keenan's Lapel guard or specializing in everything aspect of the 50/50 or the modern leg lock entanglements and disentanglements ^^ I personally like to look at all sort of 'cool shit' that the young folks do, curiosity, challenge, R&D, but not everything has to make it into our games. Yesterday I was getting coached on the Octopus Guard by a blue-belt and a purple belt. I watch tons of video series (Lachlan, Craig, Wim, Danaher, etc.) and two of the black belts at my gym have been coming to me for details on the leg lock game all the time even when I was a purple. Belt don't mean that much in the big picture, there are huge variations. in attachment is my attempt at visualizing belt color and the distribution of 'ability'. all of this is subjective, but it reflects my experience. some competition focused purple or even blue belts will give out-of-shape middle-aged brown or black belts a hard time, but on average the depth of knowledge and general ability goes up with each belt level. There will be outliers on both end of the spectrum, and I think it's totally fine at any belt to get tapped by a lower belt, especially in training, where it shouldn't be competitive rolls all the time anyway (roll to improve vs roll to prove) as far as belt-specific training goes (IBJJF rule set for competition), just as at Blue we unlocked wrist locks (and single leg takedown with head outside) now at Brow we unlocked : Slicers (calf & Biceps), Knee bar, toe-holds, and with the 2021 no-gi changes, also reaping and heel hooks. so I think all of us fresh browns need to work a bit more on these in 2022 : ) cheers!
would you mind sharing a higher res versions of this chart? I can be emailed at [email protected]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
I been a brown for a couple of years so I finally feel comfortable calling myself a brown belt. I still am amazed at what I don't know very well. Simple shit like The toreando pass. I never use it so I have zero muscle memory for it. I pass low with much pressure as possible and I don't know the names of half of the passes I use. I'm a concept guy. I know what to do and not to do in most situations and demonstrate it while rolling against resisting opponents. If you can say that then you're a brown belt.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
It's a misconception that, in order to progress through the art, you should master an immense amount of techniques.
No.
But, you SHOULD have an answer to most scenarios you will encounter on the mat. And, you should have an basic understanding of your anti-game (stuff you will never do yourself, but you might have to deal with at a some point). If you can do that with a minimalist game, it's all good. There is absolutely no need to become a jack of all trades.
I have a pretty limited game myself (and I'm not very good at that). I get on top by all means necessary. Then I lean on people.
My friend and fellow black belt Martijn Gademan has won all the Master division IBJJF tournaments from white to black belt using - I kid you not - only three moves.
Closed guard -> armdrag / sweep -> back or mount.
Now, you might get bored with that. So you might venture into new avenues and try new shit. But - again - no need to freak out because you watch some freeloading kid on instagram pull off the most outlandish moves.
No.
But, you SHOULD have an answer to most scenarios you will encounter on the mat. And, you should have an basic understanding of your anti-game (stuff you will never do yourself, but you might have to deal with at a some point). If you can do that with a minimalist game, it's all good. There is absolutely no need to become a jack of all trades.
I have a pretty limited game myself (and I'm not very good at that). I get on top by all means necessary. Then I lean on people.
My friend and fellow black belt Martijn Gademan has won all the Master division IBJJF tournaments from white to black belt using - I kid you not - only three moves.
Closed guard -> armdrag / sweep -> back or mount.
Now, you might get bored with that. So you might venture into new avenues and try new shit. But - again - no need to freak out because you watch some freeloading kid on instagram pull off the most outlandish moves.
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
And Gerald, that's a WONDERFUL graph!
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Congrats on the Brown Belt! I'm also in my 40's and got promoted to brown 2 days ago, after 2.5 years at Purple. My take on the 'impostor syndrome' that you seem that have, is to accept that BJJ is so rich that nobody will ever know everything, but you most likely have a couple of areas where your depth of knowledge allows you to coach or fine-tune anyone. The learning won't stop at black belt either! keep rolling and identifying areas that can be improved, it can anything from trying to finish a roll less out-of-breath to diving into deep systems like Keenan's Lapel guard or specializing in everything aspect of the 50/50 or the modern leg lock entanglements and disentanglements ^^ I personally like to look at all sort of 'cool shit' that the young folks do, curiosity, challenge, R&D, but not everything has to make it into our games. Yesterday I was getting coached on the Octopus Guard by a blue-belt and a purple belt. I watch tons of video series (Lachlan, Craig, Wim, Danaher, etc.) and two of the black belts at my gym have been coming to me for details on the leg lock game all the time even when I was a purple. Belt don't mean that much in the big picture, there are huge variations. in attachment is my attempt at visualizing belt color and the distribution of 'ability'. all of this is subjective, but it reflects my experience. some competition focused purple or even blue belts will give out-of-shape middle-aged brown or black belts a hard time, but on average the depth of knowledge and general ability goes up with each belt level. There will be outliers on both end of the spectrum, and I think it's totally fine at any belt to get tapped by a lower belt, especially in training, where it shouldn't be competitive rolls all the time anyway (roll to improve vs roll to prove) as far as belt-specific training goes (IBJJF rule set for competition), just as at Blue we unlocked wrist locks (and single leg takedown with head outside) now at Brow we unlocked : Slicers (calf & Biceps), Knee bar, toe-holds, and with the 2021 no-gi changes, also reaping and heel hooks. so I think all of us fresh browns need to work a bit more on these in 2022 : ) cheers!
Love this chart! Makes a lot of sense
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Love that chart!
Black beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
would you mind sharing a higher res versions of this chart?
Hi Alex,
and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart!
glad to see it resonates with you guys.
I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms.
https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing
let me know if you could download it.
it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner,
cheers,
gerald
and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart!
glad to see it resonates with you guys.
I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms.
https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing
let me know if you could download it.
it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner,
cheers,
gerald
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Grabbed it Gerald. Wonderful! Thanks!
Will take a deep dive later.
Will take a deep dive later.
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hi Alex, and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart! glad to see it resonates with you guys. I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms. https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing let me know if you could download it. it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner, cheers, gerald
I was able to download it. Great illustrations. Thanks for sharing!
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
One skill I look for in brownbelts (as compared to purple belts) is to be able to analyse and teach stuff that is NOT a part of their own game.
Black belt 4th degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Thanks!
Black beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
would you mind sharing a higher res versions of this chart?
Hi Alex,
and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart!
glad to see it resonates with you guys.
I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms.
https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing
let me know if you could download it.
it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner,
cheers,
gerald
and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart!
glad to see it resonates with you guys.
I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms.
https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing
let me know if you could download it.
it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner,
cheers,
gerald
Black belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Hi Alex, and Daniël, David, Christian, and everyone who appreciated the chart! glad to see it resonates with you guys. I put it in a pdf along with a few other thoughts on training intensity and skill acquisition that I tried to put into visual forms. https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing let me know if you could download it. it helps me sort my thoughts and hopefully be a better teacher and training partner, cheers, gerald
Cool stuff! I’ll take a look


