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Go to submission or favorite submission?
4 year(s) ago • 55588 views • 142 replies
AFBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I’ve been truly blessed to roll with a solid group of guys here at my training. The other day we were discussing the submission, or submissions we get most often. Or even what a favorite submission is. I was just curious what everyone’s go to submission or submissions are.
Mine is the north south choke, which surprised a couple of the guys I rolled with. It was one of the moves my instructor taught me during a private lesson, that I swore I’d never use. But I hit it the most. I think it’s a body mechanic that fits my build, and my game sets it up. But I digress, was just curious what submission you all find yourself going too. Or even what your favorite submission is, even if it’s not something you catch often.
Hope you all are blessed and doing well wherever you are. Excited to hear your answers and insights.
Mine is the north south choke, which surprised a couple of the guys I rolled with. It was one of the moves my instructor taught me during a private lesson, that I swore I’d never use. But I hit it the most. I think it’s a body mechanic that fits my build, and my game sets it up. But I digress, was just curious what submission you all find yourself going too. Or even what your favorite submission is, even if it’s not something you catch often.
Hope you all are blessed and doing well wherever you are. Excited to hear your answers and insights.
SSBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
My A game best sub I don’t have a good name for. From side control, my lapel that is closer to their legs I feed up to my cross-face hand, then I rotate to N/S and the skirt of my gi cuts across their neck. It’s the same sub Tainan Dalpra used in his gold medal match at worlds this year. I’ve won multiple competition matches with this.
My FAVORITE sub to hit though is a Peruvian necktie. Especially the Gerbi choke variation. It always gets a panic tap. Just harder to set up against a good turtle.
Right lapel hospital, left lapel cemetery!
My FAVORITE sub to hit though is a Peruvian necktie. Especially the Gerbi choke variation. It always gets a panic tap. Just harder to set up against a good turtle.
Right lapel hospital, left lapel cemetery!
GJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Triangles and kimuras
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Wrist is probably my fave, or the twister. Triangle is my go to. With gi the bow & arrow or cross choke.
AFBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
My A game best sub I don’t have a good name for. From side control, my lapel that is closer to their legs I feed up to my cross-face hand, then I rotate to N/S and the skirt of my gi cuts across their neck. It’s the same sub Tainan Dalpra used in his gold medal match at worlds this year. I’ve won multiple competition matches with this. My FAVORITE sub to hit though is a Peruvian necktie. Especially the Gerbi choke variation. It always gets a panic tap. Just harder to set up against a good turtle. Right lapel hospital, left lapel cemetery!
Peruvian was my jam for awhile. Haven’t revisited it in awhile. I’m glad you mentioned it!
ZBBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
My A game best sub I don’t have a good name for. From side control, my lapel that is closer to their legs I feed up to my cross-face hand, then I rotate to N/S and the skirt of my gi cuts across their neck. It’s the same sub Tainan Dalpra used in his gold medal match at worlds this year. I’ve won multiple competition matches with this.
I’ve seen multiple variations of this choke and typically hear it called either the Cobra Kai Choke or the Ninja Choke. No matter what you call it, it’s a great sub that catches a lot of people off guard. I’ve been on both the choking and tapping end of it.
VBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
I really don't have one. There are things I look for from each position but I really don't have a goto. I try not to force one submission. I try to give myself options. That way by limiting thier options I get to look for certain submissions depending on what they give me. The mouse trap
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Wrist is probably my fave, or the twister. Triangle is my go to. With gi the bow & arrow or cross choke.
You evil evil man.
FFBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Inverted triangle from side control bottom and reverse arm bar from a variety of situations.
AFBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Wrist is probably my fave, or the twister. Triangle is my go to. With gi the bow & arrow or cross choke.
When I was a purple belt I got to roll with this really talented black belt from SanDiego. All I could do was defend the whole time and felt like that was my victory. Then he started wrist locking me in every place possible. I’ll never forget he joking around whispered “I’m wrist locking you because I respect your defense. It’s totally a respect thing”
ELBlack belt 1st degreePending
4 year(s) ago
No gi: heel hook, rnc or kimura are my favs
Gi: lapel chokes from side control, bow or leglocks
Gi: lapel chokes from side control, bow or leglocks
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
North-south kimura. If I somehow manage to submit somebody, 90% of the time it will be with this.
OHBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
gi = bow'n arrow or juji
no gi : "marcello"-tine or juji
so..i would say juji... it's not that i chase it.... but it always come to me.. :-D (curious for a light guy...no? these big dudes biceps are huge :-D )
no gi : "marcello"-tine or juji
so..i would say juji... it's not that i chase it.... but it always come to me.. :-D (curious for a light guy...no? these big dudes biceps are huge :-D )
RBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Mine changes often. The kimura was a centerpiece in my game for a long time, and I still won't pass up an opportunity often if it presents itself. Arm-in guillotine/anaconda/d'arce/japanese neck tie series has been my jam lately but I have much greater success in no gi than gi. Armbars seem to be a common follow-up option from my kimura attacks or from the back. Lastly, toe holds tend to fall into my hands regularly.
CCBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Guilly
SBBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
D'Arce. I can't help it. I've tried for years to find another submission that calls to me in most situations, but I'm a one woman man and the woman is the D'Arce
NTBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Gi: if I get the guard pass, there’s a clock choke I go for from north south.
Otherwise, there’s cycles where certain subs present themselves for me and those become my favorite for the time being.
Some things I’ve been working on: guillotine, d’arce, anaconda system. Pressure subs from kesa, north-south choke, outside heel hooks
Otherwise, there’s cycles where certain subs present themselves for me and those become my favorite for the time being.
Some things I’ve been working on: guillotine, d’arce, anaconda system. Pressure subs from kesa, north-south choke, outside heel hooks
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
It seems to have changed frequently over the years according to what body parts are getting injured / worn out. Lots of go to submissions that have been lost along the way. Triangle and armbars from guard to herniated disc in back. Lots of beautiful gi chokes lost to fingers giving in. Guillotine—oh that sweet, sweet high elbow guillotine—lost to shoulder injuries. Japanese necktie was my favorite for 5-6 years but it gave me arthritis in my wrist, so no more of that.
It's like a fucking story of lost girlfriends :D
It's like a fucking story of lost girlfriends :D
ESBrown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nogi is the North South or Guillotine
Gi I love anything with lapels, mine or theirs I'm not picky :D
My favourite position is back control so from there a nice lapel drag :)
Gi I love anything with lapels, mine or theirs I'm not picky :D
My favourite position is back control so from there a nice lapel drag :)
ESBrown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I’ve seen multiple variations of this choke and typically hear it called either the Cobra Kai Choke or the Ninja Choke. No matter what you call it, it’s a great sub that catches a lot of people off guard. I’ve been on both the choking and tapping end of it.
This one! This one is one of my faves, though I have been using my lapel closest their head. If they don't tap I like the little roll you do to tighten it up
NTBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
I’ve seen multiple variations of this choke and typically hear it called either the Cobra Kai Choke or the Ninja Choke. No matter what you call it, it’s a great sub that catches a lot of people off guard. I’ve been on both the choking and tapping end of it.
Same. I think I do this choke as well. I also gather my lapel with it and draw both across their neck. When my opponent grabs on of the lapels, I let go of one and use the other to finish the choke
ESBrown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Ill usually have one of mine and one of theirs and see which they defend. If they grab their own Ill do the above choke, if they grab mine ill wrap the arm with theirs and do an ezekiel choke through the loop
OHBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
It seems to have changed frequently over the years according to what body parts are getting injured / worn out. Lots of go to submissions that have been lost along the way. Triangle and armbars from guard to herniated disc in back. Lots of beautiful gi chokes lost to fingers giving in. Guillotine—oh that sweet, sweet high elbow guillotine—lost to shoulder injuries. Japanese necktie was my favorite for 5-6 years but it gave me arthritis in my wrist, so no more of that. It's like a fucking story of lost girlfriends :D
100% accurate!
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nothing gives me more joy, than tapping someone by positional pressure.
Especially using The Demoralizer.
https://youtu.be/r2WcSLd1UQY
Especially using The Demoralizer.
https://youtu.be/r2WcSLd1UQY
ESBrown beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nothing gives me more joy, than tapping someone by positional pressure. Especially using The Demoralizer. https://youtu.be/r2WcSLd1UQY
This looks horrendous to be on the receiving end of....I love it
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
4 year(s) ago
This looks horrendous to be on the receiving end of....I love it
Thanks. Guess that's why I don't have a lot of friends...
SSBlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nothing gives me more joy, than tapping someone by positional pressure. Especially using The Demoralizer. https://youtu.be/r2WcSLd1UQY
That involuntary grunt/moan because they held their breath and they’re trying to breathe out and only get a small breath back in, is music to my ears.
I don’t usually get that near side arm up like the video you posted, but I do everything else and finish with the grape popper a lot. If I’m being nice I get the gift wrap and go to the back.
What’s EXTRA fun is when they bring their inside leg up to try to block the mount, so I step through and now their right arm is across their body but their left leg is trapped going the opposite direction. At my gym that’s called the dishrag.
edit to add: TeachMeGrappling calls it the Rigan Twister. https://youtu.be/W06XNF4uT3w
I don’t usually get that near side arm up like the video you posted, but I do everything else and finish with the grape popper a lot. If I’m being nice I get the gift wrap and go to the back.
What’s EXTRA fun is when they bring their inside leg up to try to block the mount, so I step through and now their right arm is across their body but their left leg is trapped going the opposite direction. At my gym that’s called the dishrag.
edit to add: TeachMeGrappling calls it the Rigan Twister. https://youtu.be/W06XNF4uT3w
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JABlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
I’ve seen multiple variations of this choke and typically hear it called either the Cobra Kai Choke or the Ninja Choke. No matter what you call it, it’s a great sub that catches a lot of people off guard. I’ve been on both the choking and tapping end of it.
I use that one alot off of using it to control their far arm with their own lapel. I'm a big fan of wrist locks as if I have true control of the limb and they have super flexible wrists I still have a omoplata, kimura, arm bar etc.
I love the kata-hajime (single wing choke) from judo and use it a ton from back and tech mount.
I love the kata-hajime (single wing choke) from judo and use it a ton from back and tech mount.
JABlack beltVerified
4 year(s) ago
Nothing gives me more joy, than tapping someone by positional pressure. Especially using The Demoralizer. https://youtu.be/r2WcSLd1UQY
I use that arm position and pressure from side control, but I will be working this setup from reverse kesa sir. many thanks. Also makura kesa gatame is a favorite to make people hate me more then the wrist locks lol
JABlack beltVerified
