Go to submission or favorite submission?

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Today I landed my first ever submissions in sparring. I’m a white belt who’s been training for around a month.

Going 3-4 days a week & spar & open mat as often as I can.

I did 5 rounds tonight. With people my weight & belt rank - white - & after 3 very competitive matches, I managed to submit someone with a rear naked choke, as well as an arm triangle!

These are 2 attacks I’ve learned recently and worked on each session. Felt incredible to actually come off with a submission. The elation I felt! Wow! After weeks of frustration & being confused or ragdolled around. To actually get a submission made me feel amazing!

Shoutout to the guys in Southend Combat academy letting me in their house to train with them!

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The Jones Choke

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Sode Guruma Jime (Ezekiel) from inside the guard. The only choke I have seen work from that position against moderately skilled partners.

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Armbar from a top lock

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Any submission that's available to me during a roll is my favorite submission.

Brandon Needham

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Honestly, my go to is either an arm triangle from various positions, or more recently, slapping wristlocks on everyone!!!

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Mine used to always be the arm bar. I hyper-focused on them, learned so many variations. I still hit them frequently but I also land in leg attacks (achilles, toe holds, heel hooks) often. I also enjoy peruvian neckties.

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For some reason, I get more satisfaction when I hit a head-scissor choke than from other submissions. Recently, and probably to my detriment, I have been hitting a lot of sacrifice baseball bat chokes.

Dwight Kelly Ii

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My favorite is the nightmare choke from mount because it is completely illegal and catches everyone off guard. Haha.

My favorite submissions have changed over the years and what I am focusing on. Legs have always been a big part of my game, but so have lapel chokes.

Though, my rolling game is more of a cat and mouse to opportunistic style. So I either bait or just let you move around (with some guidance) until I see something open up.

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nightmare choke from mount because it is completely illegal

could you elaborate? I have not heard of that

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I'm definitely a triangle guy. Then again, I have long/skinny legs, so it suits me well.

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Then how come you only heel hook me?

Out of love for your feet

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Out of love for your feet

Get a room u guys...

Arnoud Terpstra

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I like ‘em all! But there is something extra satisfying about hitting a clean guillotine choke while locking someone up in your closed guard.

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I like armbars. Lately have been enjoying reverse armbars.

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When someone has my back, I trap the underhook arm and wristlock the shit out of them. That’ll teach them…

For real though, I never go full clip and only spam it because lets be real..they’re hilarious. We both get a hearty chuckle and move on to more consensual attempted murder.

Slideyfoot [jun]

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When someone has my back, I trap the underhook arm and wristlock the shit out of them. That’ll teach them… For real though, I never go full clip and only spam it because lets be real..they’re hilarious. We both get a hearty chuckle and move on to more consensual attempted murder.

Ooo, I've been playing with that recently, though usually when I'm the one who has the back (John Andrews has a ton of sneaky wristlock he showed at Artemis BJJ Bristol Camp).

How do you like to do the underhook wristlock, out of curiosity?

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Ooo, I've been playing with that recently, though usually when I'm the one who has the back (John Andrews has a ton of sneaky wristlock he showed at Artemis BJJ Bristol Camp). How do you like to do the underhook wristlock, out of curiosity?

So my training partner has my back. We are seated and he has his seatbelt grip ( think position sparring starting position I guess?) I roll to the side of underhook. I trap his arm by pinching it with my arm. They may start the process of sinking in the choke…leaving the underhook seatbelt just out there. I go for a gooseneck style wristy with a figure four style grip. (Picture attached) It’s super low percentage, but hilarious enough to elicit a kermit the frog style flailing. Worth it.

Hope this answered your question!

In regards to wristlocks…
“Why ignore 1% of the human body” - Sun Tzu Probably

Slideyfoot [jun]

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So my training partner has my back. We are seated and he has his seatbelt grip ( think position sparring starting position I guess?) I roll to the side of underhook. I trap his arm by pinching it with my arm. They may start the process of sinking in the choke…leaving the underhook seatbelt just out there. I go for a gooseneck style wristy with a figure four style grip. (Picture attached) It’s super low percentage, but hilarious enough to elicit a kermit the frog style flailing. Worth it. Hope this answered your question! In regards to wristlocks… “Why ignore 1% of the human body” - Sun Tzu Probably

Thanks! I have that DVD, I should give it another watch. Roy Dean does good work. :D

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Not my go to buy one I’ve been working on is the ham sandwich

Slideyfoot [jun]

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Not my go to buy one I’ve been working on is the ham sandwich

Excuse me, the what? I see BJJ terminology hasn't stopped being stupid. :D

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Excuse me, the what? I see BJJ terminology hasn't stopped being stupid. :D

It’s a 10th planet term for a calf slicer. I’ve been liking it though as a control position too.

https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]amp;t=457s

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Not my go to buy one I’ve been working on is the ham sandwich

I love hitting this by head faking a single butterfly cross ashi entry.

Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000

I love hitting this by head faking a single butterfly cross ashi entry.

I’ve been testing entries from open guard as well

Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000

Calf-slicers are a pain compliance position. If you relax the leg and work on un-doing their knot it forces them to actually learn jiu-jitsu. Catch-as-can techniques only go so far.

That’s fair. I actually am less concerned about finishing the calf slicer and use the position to reverse from deep half to top position. Additionally there are some leg lock entries from ham sandwich the I like as well

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So you use it to climb to the back?

I think, if im picturing it correctly, the ham sandwich (or bear trap) can be abandoned to transition to deep half (which is from bottom position, think Jeff Glover deep half) from that deep half there is a swinging movement that brings you to top position for the reversal. Nick can 100% correct me if Im off.

Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000

I’m still in the early stages of learning this position so I’m not claiming any proficiency yet.

I’ve been using Eli knight as a reference
https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]ZHdpY2g%3D

In the video, Eli uses the ham sandwich to transition to the truck then back take.

I’ve also been using Coach Brian as well
https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]amp;t=457s

R. David Gonzalez

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I’m still in the early stages of learning this position so I’m not claiming any proficiency yet. I’ve been using Eli knight as a reference https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]ZHdpY2g%3D In the video, Eli uses the ham sandwich to transition to the truck then back take. I’ve also been using Coach Brian as well https://m.youtube.com/wat[...]amp;t=457s

This is how I tore my MCL.
I was the one attacking and the weight of my partner was too much for the knee. LOL

Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000

This is how I tore my MCL. I was the one attacking and the weight of my partner was too much for the knee. LOL

This is a legit concern

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This is how I tore my MCL. I was the one attacking and the weight of my partner was too much for the knee. LOL

Also I tore my ACL and LCL. I was attacking, partner was defending well, I got too greedy and pop pop. Brandon Mccaghren has great content on the "ham sandwich" which is also called "bear trap" by Shawn Williams.

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