But now i want to know what you thing about verified people who check profile like blindman. Without any pictures, evidences or whatever, they votes with comments like 'enough evidences ' or 'legit' WTF !?

I've definitely voted to verify people who I personally know, without having fully scrutinized their profile. Their profiles may have met 'Johan standards', or they may have not. All I know is their rank was legit. Maybe other people are voting this way? I doubt it though. Thanks to the evolution of this site, I'm more hesitant to give votes, even to people I know well, because I feel that accurate representation is important.

The worst is “Lots of evidence, legit” votes on profiles that are literally empty 😂

I saw another good one : 'well documented ' with only the profile picture 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I do however have a question on this, I understand the zero history and not voting. That makes sense to me, but sometimes I do not understand down voting for personal reasons. Now in the attached clip from a comment that was made by the sherlock holms of Belt Checker, I get the first statement he makes 'no Evidence' But then goes into some discussion about this persons Promoting Professor and court. I do not agree with that at all. I judge the person and the legitimacy of their belt not the fact that the person that might have promoted them was a dirt bag or saint. If that were the case people might down vote Cain Velasquez's BB because he is being charged with murder. There is also an example here on Belt Checker where there is a person (belt withheld because it could identify them) who was caught and charged and found guilty of treason. Do these charges make their belt promotion void? I personally just would not vote yes or no for the person, but I am not going to drag it out in a vote.

Hi guys, We already talk about people who need to bring enough evidences to get verified. Because the main concern of this site is about checking. We also talk about profiles not updated for the right degree in time. But now i want to know what you thing about verified people who check profile like blindman. Without any pictures, evidences or whatever, they votes with comments like 'enough evidences ' or 'legit' WTF !? What's the credibility of a dumb vote like this one ? I understand that some people think they are helping the community by helping others to get verified, but at least open your eyes before clicking everywhere: no pictures, no certification, just the informations the guys has wright, for a black belt or higher.... we need to keep a high level of checking.

I do however have a question on this, I understand the zero history and not voting. That makes sense to me, but sometimes I do not understand down voting for personal reasons. Now in the attached clip from a comment that was made by the sherlock holms of Belt Checker, I get the first statement he makes 'no Evidence' But then goes into some discussion about this persons Promoting Professor and court. I do not agree with that at all. I judge the person and the legitimacy of their belt not the fact that the person that might have promoted them was a dirt bag or saint. If that were the case people might down vote Cain Velasquez's BB because he is being charged with murder. There is also an example here on Belt Checker where there is a person (belt withheld because it could identify them) who was caught and charged and found guilty of treason. Do these charges make their belt promotion void? I personally just would not vote yes or no for the person, but I am not going to drag it out in a vote.

Hi guys, We already talk about people who need to bring enough evidences to get verified. Because the main concern of this site is about checking. We also talk about profiles not updated for the right degree in time. But now i want to know what you thing about verified people who check profile like blindman. Without any pictures, evidences or whatever, they votes with comments like 'enough evidences ' or 'legit' WTF !? What's the credibility of a dumb vote like this one ? I understand that some people think they are helping the community by helping others to get verified, but at least open your eyes before clicking everywhere: no pictures, no certification, just the informations the guys has wright, for a black belt or higher.... we need to keep a high level of checking.

I don't know Benoit, but there seems to be enough evidence to verify the claim. :)

Guys, i'm not involved into this 'social projet', i'm just happy to have such a good opportunity to exchange about BJJ and helping each other to get credit for their rank when other federations (Enterprises) would only see $$$. But it would not be the same without the forum we use, and the dedication of actives members, so thanks for taking time, i'm sure that few years later in will be amazingly bigger

I judge the person and the legitimacy of their belt not the fact that the person that might have promoted them was a dirt bag or saint.

As for the main topic of this thread - we need to de-dramatize downvoting for lack of evidence. Just be transparent with why and offer a reasonable way to have you turn your dispute into a verification and they are actually better off than if you hadn't voted at all (as long as they're willin to comply with reasonable standards - otherwise, the dispute can just as well remain).

Ok to de-dramatize downvoting but only if you agree to let at least one week to the new members before downvoting them 😅 because it's not welcoming to get negatives points.

Looks like he leads with, 'no evidence'. Maybe he could have just stuck with that?

Ok to de-dramatize downvoting but only if you agree to let at least one week to the new members before downvoting them 😅 because it's not welcoming to get negatives points.

On the other hand, there’s also a benefit in having faults/missing stuff in your profile pointed out as early as possible so people fix them before they have received a lot of votes. Once they have a high voting score, they’re less inclined to make any changes that would require revérification / “starting over”.