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3 year(s) ago • 4780 views • 20 replies

Arthur Balis
Arthur Balis
Blue beltVerified4 forum posts625/200
3 year(s) ago
Saw this online, 20 years to blue belt. My only response was, congrats dude.

I was surprised to find other comments that were not as edifying.

What do you think ?
Johan
Johan
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1401 forum posts11370/1000
3 year(s) ago
Are the 20 years on the martial arts mat in total or just in BJJ? If he competed, his academy would be getting a really bad sandbagging reputation if he really had average 20 year frequent trainer development but held back on white belt. Also within the academy, I have difficulties seeing no one would react with a frequent white belt kicking the butts of those who have been practicing for 10-15 years. So I think it is in great parts self correcting and I doubt there has really been 20 years of weekly BJJ training in this case. Maybe on and off (mostly off).
Frankie
Frankie
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified113 forum posts6010/1000
3 year(s) ago
Maybe 20 years with huge gaps In between. People tend to say…. “I have been training Jiu-Jitsu for 20 years,” but in reality they quit a couple times but they are counting from the first time they stepped on the mats. I’ve seen it countless times after someone quits at blue belt. “Oh man I been training for 13 years,” no man you quit at blue belt after 1 year.
Arthur Balis
Arthur BalisOP
Blue beltVerified4 forum posts625/200
3 year(s) ago
Hmm. Sandbagging never crossed my mind. It struck me as a guy who never gave up. Maybe I’m just a glass half full kind of guy.
Bren Nolan
Bren Nolan
Purple beltVerified144 forum posts1460/400
3 year(s) ago
Maybe 20 years with huge gaps In between. People tend to say…. “I have been training Jiu-Jitsu for 20 years,” but in reality they quit a couple times but they are counting from the first time they stepped on the mats. I’ve seen it countless times after someone quits at blue belt. “Oh man I been training for 13 years,” no man you quit at blue belt after 1 year.
Exactly. People talking about sandbagging and crushing brown and black belts are missing the obvious.

Guy most trained for a bit and quit. Started and once or twice and got a blue bent in 2years or so.
20 years since starting not 20 years of training
Arthur Balis
Arthur BalisOP
Blue beltVerified4 forum posts625/200
3 year(s) ago
Hmm. Sandbagging never crossed my mind. It struck me as a guy who never gave up. Maybe I’m just a glass half full kind of guy.
Dwight Kelly Ii
Dwight Kelly Ii
Black beltVerified171 forum posts2720/1000
3 year(s) ago
I cannot tell you how many people within my own gym tell me about how they were a "ten year blue belt" or "15 year purple." Always failing to add the disclaimer of they were not actually active during that whole duration of time. Reminds me of guys who only showed up for promotion ceremonies and my usual follow up response: "I thought you died?"

But everyone wants recognition it seems.
Arthur Balis
Arthur BalisOP
Blue beltVerified4 forum posts625/200
3 year(s) ago
It took me 37 years to get my blue belt
I’m glad you got it. Congratulations. I know I will enjoy mine if and when the day comes.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
3 year(s) ago
Maybe 20 years with huge gaps In between.
Yeah, that seems the most likely answer, or they are including 18 years of judo or something like that. I don't find it plausible that somebody could consistently train for 20 years at a legit gym and not be at a higher level than blue.
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1134 forum posts23250/400
3 year(s) ago
I don't find it plausible that somebody could consistently train for 20 years at a legit gym and not be at a higher level than blue.
I’d still be a white belt if people didn’t feel sorry for me.
Hardy Hemmingway
Hardy Hemmingway
White beltVerified11 forum posts125/0
3 year(s) ago
20 years consistent seems unlikely. 20 years on and off - sure. By that measure I'm a 16year white belt. 😀
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Dwight Kelly Ii
Dwight Kelly Ii
Black beltVerified171 forum posts2720/1000
3 year(s) ago
20 years consistent seems unlikely. 20 years on and off - sure. By that measure I'm a 16year white belt. 😀
I like to go in the opposite direction, I retroactively add up all my time before I stepped on the mats in 2009. Henceforth, I thus identify as a coral belt.

Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified976 forum posts9215/1000
3 year(s) ago
I’d still be a white belt if people didn’t feel sorry for me.
I don't feel sorry for you. You like a toe fugus that keep coming back! You just do quit! 🤣
Matt Guyer
Matt Guyer
Purple beltVerified1134 forum posts23250/400
3 year(s) ago
I don't feel sorry for you. You like a toe fugus that keep coming back! You just do quit! 🤣
That’s the nicest thing anyone has said to me this week.
Jay Pages
Jay Pages
Black belt 4th degreeVerified491 forum posts23470/1000
3 year(s) ago
Has to be gaps in there! I don't think he's being very forthcoming with the details of that 20 years on the mat thing. It's either he's BS'ing, really sucks, or sandbagging!
Joseph Gargano
Joseph Gargano
Purple beltVerified2 forum posts1175/400
3 year(s) ago
I'm willing to bet his training has been at a much slower pace with some gaps in between and that's fine. Not everyone is looking to be a world elite competition phenom. 20 year is better late than never, and hopefully his skills are aligned with his belt color. Maybe he has really good fundamentals, and can teach new students.
Christopher Riddett
Christopher Riddett
Brown beltVerified38 forum posts1235/700
3 year(s) ago
This is why I got my students, if they wanted a measure of how long they've been doing BJJ and to accurately measure themselves, to count hours of mat time, rather than picking a date and counting from there. Huge level of difference between 20 years of training 4-5 hours a week vs 20 years of maybe 1-2 hours a fortnight or month.

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