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Great Stats from the ADCC East Coast Trials!
2 year(s) ago • 6273 views • 7 replies
JPBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Been saying this forever! Neck and leg attacks! Most hit submissions in the trials! The 2022 IBJJF Nogi Worlds had similar statistics! Two body parts I really emphasize with my students! So many shit on Leg Locks yet it can't be argued when in both ADCC and IBJJF competitions, leg locks are one of the two most attacked body parts for submissions.
https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2022.html
https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2022.html
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CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I’d say that from those stats, the priority of submissions focused on should be neck, arm and then legs. Not counting winning by points or decision, which is by far most common.
Weight class obviously seem to be a big factor for what submissions are most popular but over all, leg locks are the least successful finishers.
(We need a bigger data set to conclude anything of course)
Overall stats for all weight classes:
Weight class obviously seem to be a big factor for what submissions are most popular but over all, leg locks are the least successful finishers.
(We need a bigger data set to conclude anything of course)
Overall stats for all weight classes:
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JPBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I copied the wrong link. That's from the ADCC 2022. Here's the correct link... https://thegrapplingconje[...]rican.html
Yes, i agree with you. Based on the ADCC 2022 results. However, .9 percent is not a big difference vs the jump to the trials where legs are at 24.5% vs arms at 8.9%. The ADCC trials had a much larger data set. I would say the the accuracy of the numbers with the trials are a better number to base things off of since the pool of test subjects is much higher during the trials than the actual ADCC world championships. Also, if you look, the 2022 Nogi worlds had the similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2022.html). Again, more test subjects yielding more accurate numbers and giving us a bigger data set.
2021 Nogi Worlds had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2021.html),
2021 ADCC East Coast Trials had also had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]coast.html)
2022 ADCC South American Trials, similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]south.html)
2022 ADCC West Coast Trials, the same (https://thegrapplingconje[...]north.html)
6 Very large competitions over the past couple of years providing a larger data set showing Neck, Legs, then Arms.
Yes, i agree with you. Based on the ADCC 2022 results. However, .9 percent is not a big difference vs the jump to the trials where legs are at 24.5% vs arms at 8.9%. The ADCC trials had a much larger data set. I would say the the accuracy of the numbers with the trials are a better number to base things off of since the pool of test subjects is much higher during the trials than the actual ADCC world championships. Also, if you look, the 2022 Nogi worlds had the similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2022.html). Again, more test subjects yielding more accurate numbers and giving us a bigger data set.
2021 Nogi Worlds had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2021.html),
2021 ADCC East Coast Trials had also had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]coast.html)
2022 ADCC South American Trials, similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]south.html)
2022 ADCC West Coast Trials, the same (https://thegrapplingconje[...]north.html)
6 Very large competitions over the past couple of years providing a larger data set showing Neck, Legs, then Arms.
ANBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I copied the wrong link. That's from the ADCC 2022. Here's the correct link... https://thegrapplingconje[...]rican.html Yes, i agree with you. Based on the ADCC 2022 results. However, .9 percent is not a big difference vs the jump to the trials where legs are at 24.5% vs arms at 8.9%. The ADCC trials had a much larger data set. I would say the the accuracy of the numbers with the trials are a better number to base things off of since the pool of test subjects is much higher during the trials than the actual ADCC world championships. Also, if you look, the 2022 Nogi worlds had the similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2022.html). Again, more test subjects yielding more accurate numbers and giving us a bigger data set. 2021 Nogi Worlds had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]-2021.html), 2021 ADCC East Coast Trials had also had a similar outcome (https://thegrapplingconje[...]coast.html) 2022 ADCC South American Trials, similar results (https://thegrapplingconje[...]south.html) 2022 ADCC West Coast Trials, the same (https://thegrapplingconje[...]north.html) 6 Very large competitions over the past couple of years providing a larger data set showing Neck, Legs, then Arms.
great stats, however, there are a ton of variables that need to be taken into consideration. for example, is the prevalence of leg attacks due to the new generation of BJJ open guard players and leg lockers as opposed to the past? i wonder how the newer styles of curriculum play into those statistics.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
great stats, however, there are a ton of variables that need to be taken into consideration. for example, is the prevalence of leg attacks due to the new generation of BJJ open guard players and leg lockers as opposed to the past? i wonder how the newer styles of curriculum play into those statistics.
Yeah, there's definitely a factor of what games are "trendy" as well.
JPBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
great stats, however, there are a ton of variables that need to be taken into consideration. for example, is the prevalence of leg attacks due to the new generation of BJJ open guard players and leg lockers as opposed to the past? i wonder how the newer styles of curriculum play into those statistics.
For sure. Curious about that too. I feel we need a few more years of stats. At the same time, don't you think the leg lock trend has been around for quite some time? Almost a decade? Enough to take into consideration the different variables? The stats above are taking an average across the board, across all weight classes, as well as male and female divisions.
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ANBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
For sure. Curious about that too. I feel we need a few more years of stats. At the same time, don't you think the leg lock trend has been around for quite some time? Almost a decade? Enough to take into consideration the different variables? The stats above are taking an average across the board, across all weight classes, as well as male and female divisions.
honestly --- my opinion only. the leg lock game started when roy harris used it in the 90s and tapped all the Gracies out with it, and upset everyone doing it. from that point, i remember a ton of people going outside of BJJ to learn leg locks, and then bringing that back to the mat
MBlack beltVerified
