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Chokes or locks
2 year(s) ago • 304 views • 29 replies
EHBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
What do you find yourself seeing more of or shooting for while rolling or what do you prefer, chokes or locks?
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I typically have an affinity for arm locks of different types, but if a choke is there I'll certainly take it...
MBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
For years I was all about chokes and would only take a lock if it fell in my lap. Over time my game has become more and more lock focused. Probably at least partially due to my training partners all learning to protect their necks better.
SEBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Well, difficult to decide….
Most of the time I play with cross collar grips as my standard when in bottom position.
So plenty of chokes come along.
When in top position it depends on the defense of my opponent.
Many standards going towards juji-variations and Kimura.💁🏻♂️
Most of the time I play with cross collar grips as my standard when in bottom position.
So plenty of chokes come along.
When in top position it depends on the defense of my opponent.
Many standards going towards juji-variations and Kimura.💁🏻♂️
EHBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
Sebastian yes I do like a good Kimura sometimes I like to Kimura hunt and see if I can grab one in a roll just for fun.
TMBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
In the gi I find myself hunting/hitting lots of collar chokes
Gi and no-gi lots of arm bars and triangles
No-gi lots of leg locks 😈
Mind you I always take whatever sub is there regardless of lock or choke.
Gi and no-gi lots of arm bars and triangles
No-gi lots of leg locks 😈
Mind you I always take whatever sub is there regardless of lock or choke.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
For me I tend to hit a lot of Kimura's from all over, arm triangles and leg locks
TMBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
For me I tend to hit a lot of Kimura's from all over, arm triangles and leg locks
You had me at leg locks 🥰🥰
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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RBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Spent a while being more of an arm lock guy. Kimuras, armbars, americanas, etc. Then the light bulb flicked on for guillotines, d'arce, anacondas, japanese neckties, etc. And now chokes have balanced out. I still suck at triangles, but I even get more rear naked chokes since my focus shifted a bit. Kinda like when you're looking for red cars in traffic, I guess.
Lower body attacks tend to lean more toward toe holds and heel hooks. I hit a knee bar every now and then too.
Lower body attacks tend to lean more toward toe holds and heel hooks. I hit a knee bar every now and then too.
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SLBrown beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
Head / arm choke.
Kimura.
Toe hold.
Armbar (s mount specifically)
Kimura.
Toe hold.
Armbar (s mount specifically)
CMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I see a nearly even distribution of both joint locks and chokes. I find that I enjoy hitting chokes more than joint locks, but I seem to find more opportunities/success with joint locks. This is has been true basically my entire journey. At blue belt, I remember having significantly more success with the armbar from the back than chokes, especially against higher belts. I suspect that set me on a path.
GJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I take the opportunity that presents itself
JPBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Chokes hands down for me!
ABBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
In the gi I find myself hunting/hitting lots of collar chokes Gi and no-gi lots of arm bars and triangles No-gi lots of leg locks 😈 Mind you I always take whatever sub is there regardless of lock or choke.
collar chokes are my true-love 🥰
All the other subs are also funny but collar chokes are what they are
All the other subs are also funny but collar chokes are what they are
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
collar chokes are my true-love 🥰 All the other subs are also funny but collar chokes are what they are
and what is your favorite collar choke sir?
Mine is always kata hajime (single wing choke) but I'm a fan of the wrapping your own lapel around bad guys throat from top side control ;)
Mine is always kata hajime (single wing choke) but I'm a fan of the wrapping your own lapel around bad guys throat from top side control ;)
DCBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
No air, no attitude!
I'll ditch a nearly fully assembled lock in favor of a choke if it presents itself. Mind you, if they're already too deep in the lock and I feel comfortable I may watch the choke pass by... 🤔
NOPE! F*!K that BS, put them to sleep then assemble whatever lock you desire with an almost fully compliant partner. 😬
#davestipsforbjj #thisisntanactualhashtagbutnowimconsideringit
I'll ditch a nearly fully assembled lock in favor of a choke if it presents itself. Mind you, if they're already too deep in the lock and I feel comfortable I may watch the choke pass by... 🤔
NOPE! F*!K that BS, put them to sleep then assemble whatever lock you desire with an almost fully compliant partner. 😬
#davestipsforbjj #thisisntanactualhashtagbutnowimconsideringit
ABBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
and what is your favorite collar choke sir? Mine is always kata hajime (single wing choke) but I'm a fan of the wrapping your own lapel around bad guys throat from top side control ;)
Mine is wrapping my lapel from top side control around the neck and then roll over the shoulder (did never give tf about names of technics 🤷🏻♂️)
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
Mine is wrapping my lapel from top side control around the neck and then roll over the shoulder (did never give tf about names of technics 🤷🏻♂️)
I gave it a name for myself back in the day - but thats only because as a white belt I thought I was snazzy. Now I just like choking people with it
JJBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
What do you find yourself seeing more of or shooting for while rolling or what do you prefer, chokes or locks?
Chokes are attacking the air. Strangles are attacking the blood.
A scarfold chest compression is technically a "choke" for example.
My favorite is actually what I like to call an "extension" where you keep the head or hip in place and then pull the body away from the head or the head away from the body. It's kind of like a medieval torture device. An example would be one arm guillotine from closed guard. Don't need to strangle or choke. Just establish connection points and control and then use your hips and legs to extend your opponents body away from their head.
Making people feel safe when they are not safe until the last moment is the best strategy.
A scarfold chest compression is technically a "choke" for example.
My favorite is actually what I like to call an "extension" where you keep the head or hip in place and then pull the body away from the head or the head away from the body. It's kind of like a medieval torture device. An example would be one arm guillotine from closed guard. Don't need to strangle or choke. Just establish connection points and control and then use your hips and legs to extend your opponents body away from their head.
Making people feel safe when they are not safe until the last moment is the best strategy.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Positional pressure. Break the will. Then take whatever they give to make it stop.
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I'm lazy. Usually take what ever is easiest at given time.
JYPurple beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I personally prefer chokes, however I find people give up their arms a lot when attacking for chokes and it is impolite to turn down gifts.
WYBrown beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I am split, 50/50. My first professor always said that a man with a broken arm still has one to hit you with, but a man made to sleep can do nothing with his 2 good arms and 2 good legs. Still, there is something about the perfectly set Americana or Kimora that makes me happy.
JJBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I am split, 50/50. My first professor always said that a man with a broken arm still has one to hit you with, but a man made to sleep can do nothing with his 2 good arms and 2 good legs. Still, there is something about the perfectly set Americana or Kimora that makes me happy.
If I had to choose one "lock" it is the Kimura. It is by far the most devastating submission in jiu-jitsu.
You can easily control the submission from North-South. I've never actually had someone not tap to the Kimura be it with a physical tap or a verbal tap/scream in competition even when being nice.
You can feel the pressure your applying to not badly injure your opponent as well. In competition I can apply enough damage where my opponent will need a couple days to recover and they will be fine even if they don't tap before they scream. If you wanted to rip someone's arm off you could but it's never needed.
You can easily control the submission from North-South. I've never actually had someone not tap to the Kimura be it with a physical tap or a verbal tap/scream in competition even when being nice.
You can feel the pressure your applying to not badly injure your opponent as well. In competition I can apply enough damage where my opponent will need a couple days to recover and they will be fine even if they don't tap before they scream. If you wanted to rip someone's arm off you could but it's never needed.
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
If I had to choose one 'lock' it is the Kimura. It is by far the most devastating submission in jiu-jitsu. You can easily control the submission from North-South. I've never actually had someone not tap to the Kimura be it with a physical tap or a verbal tap/scream in competition even when being nice. You can feel the pressure your applying to not badly injure your opponent as well. In competition I can apply enough damage where my opponent will need a couple days to recover and they will be fine even if they don't tap before they scream. If you wanted to rip someone's arm off you could but it's never needed.
I became a fan of the kimura when I studied the Kimura Trap system for a year or so, and thats all I played and yeah, kimura locks attacking the shoulder is devastating. A Dr friend of mine told me shoulders are the most complex joint and attacking that gives you so much wiggle room to apply / change angles etc
JBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I train mainly for self-defense and I used to live in Hawaii, where many of my training partners were very big, so I prefer chokes. If you ever have to fight a guy who is high (e.g., meth or cocaine) or psychotic, you realize how useful a good choke can be. I tend to use joint locks when people give me an arm while fighting off a choke. I do love foot locks, though.
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
What do you find yourself seeing more of or shooting for while rolling or what do you prefer, chokes or locks?
Kimura. Always. Specifically, north-south kimura. That's always my primary option. Same if I get up high in mount, mounted triangle etc, I'll kimura from there too.
MGBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
In the Gi, most of the time I use collar chokes as a way into either an arm bar / kimora situation or a leg entanglement situation. The choice to attack the upper body or lower body really depends on the opponent and what they give me. I’ll get my one collar choke at the beginning of a roll but after that I’ll just play for locks. So, locks.
In no-gi, 100% chokes. Arm triangle, D’arce, anaconda, arm in guillotine, leg triangle, RNC, etc. I find decent opponent can escape a lot of traditional submissions but chokes especially ones using the opponent’s arm/shoulder for control hit.
In no-gi, 100% chokes. Arm triangle, D’arce, anaconda, arm in guillotine, leg triangle, RNC, etc. I find decent opponent can escape a lot of traditional submissions but chokes especially ones using the opponent’s arm/shoulder for control hit.
LSBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I find that I really wanna choke people, but the locks are often so much more available
