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As a plain Blackbelt until what degree can you promote others

2 year(s) ago • 1051 views • 9 replies

Vincent Blom
Vincent Blom
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2 year(s) ago
I was just wondering until what degree you can promote others if your own current degree is a Blackbelt (no stripes)
Terence Jakes
Terence Jakes
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2 year(s) ago
If I’m not mistaken you can promote anyone up to brown belt, but can’t promote anyone to black belt until your 2nd degree
Bobby McMasters
Bobby McMasters
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2 year(s) ago
I was just wondering until what degree you can promote others if your own current degree is a Blackbelt (no stripes)
I play it pretty conservative and don't promote anyone past purple without at least a 1-stripe black belt "signing off" on the promotion.
Vincent Blom
Vincent BlomOP
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2 year(s) ago
If I’m not mistaken you can promote anyone up to brown belt, but can’t promote anyone to black belt until your 2nd degree
thanx i was aware you have to be 2nd degree BB to promote anyone to a BB, but was not sure until what degree it was possible.

thank you very much
Vincent Blom
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2 year(s) ago
I play it pretty conservative and don't promote anyone past purple without at least a 1-stripe black belt 'signing off' on the promotion.
good think to keep in mind,

thank you
Johan
Johan
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2 year(s) ago
Up to brown belt with four stripes.

Formally, you really shouldn't promote someone to BB "under supervision of", "with permission from" etc. a legit 2:nd degree BB. If you promote someone to BB "together with" a legit 2:nd degree BB or higher, it's formally really them doing the promotion. I personally think BB:s promoted in that way need to be very transparent about it on Beltchecker, writing out the degrees of the promoting instructors and first and foremost writing the name of the higher ranked BB promoting (e.g. "senior co-promoter" can be used as a label). If you enter into such an arrangement as a 0:th or 1:st degree BB, for the sake of your student, you really should help them get documentation from the senior BB that they stand by the promotion. Obvious promotion photos, diplomas etc. Especially if the senior BB is not even present physically, where the junior BB promoting is formally acting as a proxy. I've seen far too many of these promotions having zero evidence showing the involvement of the senior BB. Also really sucks for the promoted BB if there is later a fallout between their teacher and the senior BB. Seen a lot of those too.
Vincent Blom
Vincent BlomOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified10 forum posts1735/1000
2 year(s) ago
Up to brown belt with four stripes. Formally, you really shouldn't promote someone to BB 'under supervision of', 'with permission from' etc. a legit 2:nd degree BB. If you promote someone to BB 'together with' a legit 2:nd degree BB or higher, it's formally really them doing the promotion. I personally think BB:s promoted in that way need to be very transparent about it on Beltchecker, writing out the degrees of the promoting instructors and first and foremost writing the name of the higher ranked BB promoting (e.g. 'senior co-promoter' can be used as a label). If you enter into such an arrangement as a 0:th or 1:st degree BB, for the sake of your student, you really should help them get documentation from the senior BB that they stand by the promotion. Obvious promotion photos, diplomas etc. Especially if the senior BB is not even present physically, where the junior BB promoting is formally acting as a proxy. I've seen far too many of these promotions having zero evidence showing the involvement of the senior BB. Also really sucks for the promoted BB if there is later a fallout between their teacher and the senior BB. Seen a lot of those too.
not quite my question about the BB stuff but thanx for explanation

what I meant was until what belt below my own Blackbelt (no stripes) I can promote.
officially it seems to be up to brown with 4 stripes.

that's all i needed to know.

thanks very much,
Sebastian Ellinghaus
Sebastian Ellinghaus
Black belt 1st degreeVerified599 forum posts34785/1000
2 year(s) ago
Promoting up to brown and to BB only after earning a 2nd degree.
That is from my pov the setting, most BB would be fine with.💁🏻‍♂️

I did not promote anyone to anything since beeing a BB so far.
On the other hand I think You can do whatever You want, once You are a damn BB! 🤙🏼😆
[Nevertheless I do not vote to verify a BB promoted by another BB 0 degree.]


Vincent Blom
Vincent BlomOP
Black belt 1st degreeVerified10 forum posts1735/1000
2 year(s) ago
Promoting up to brown and to BB only after earning a 2nd degree. That is from my pov the setting, most BB would be fine with.💁🏻‍♂️ I did not promote anyone to anything since beeing a BB so far. On the other hand I think You can do whatever You want, once You are a damn BB! 🤙🏼😆 [Nevertheless I do not vote to verify a BB promoted by another BB 0 degree.]
thanx for your POV,

I think i find myself comfortable with that too.
would be strange to promote someone to the same level as yourself.


Terence Jakes
Terence Jakes
Black beltVerified18 forum posts3045/1000
2 year(s) ago
thanx i was aware you have to be 2nd degree BB to promote anyone to a BB, but was not sure until what degree it was possible. thank you very much
Glad I could help

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