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Battle of self doubt/future BJJ and Judo business.
2 year(s) ago • 598 views • 5 replies
ADBrown beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I'm catching myself lately being a self progress blocker and critic. I currently help a friend by teaching Judo a couple of days at his BJJ and SAMBO school, which he has started paying me generously for. He also give me his old mats, that I have in my garage and train with my kids on. I would like to start teaching private lessons here at my house, but I catch myself making excuses not to and struggling with what to charge people. This partially comes from being from a Judo background, which is rarely done for profit in the US. Has anyone else worked through this struggle that can throw a guy some encouragement?
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CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Oh yes...
I'm in a situation where I should start selling seminars, privates etc. Self-marketing just feels wrong. I've never done this for the money, even when I was teaching full-time at some gyms. It's always been about giving back. Getting paid for doing it is cool, but never did it for the money. And in Finland sports and especially martial arts have always been done through non-profit organisations.
On the other hand, I know I shouldn't do it for free. I'm lucky that some of my students buy privates and support my jiu-jitsu potato lifestyle if I just mention my services.
Sorry, no real advice. I guess, charge what you feel is reasonable for your time and see how it goes.
I'm in a situation where I should start selling seminars, privates etc. Self-marketing just feels wrong. I've never done this for the money, even when I was teaching full-time at some gyms. It's always been about giving back. Getting paid for doing it is cool, but never did it for the money. And in Finland sports and especially martial arts have always been done through non-profit organisations.
On the other hand, I know I shouldn't do it for free. I'm lucky that some of my students buy privates and support my jiu-jitsu potato lifestyle if I just mention my services.
Sorry, no real advice. I guess, charge what you feel is reasonable for your time and see how it goes.
BMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
If your friend pays you generously, gives you mats, etc, why not try and teach privates at his/her place and give him/her whatever cut you think s/he deserves?
Most likely your friend would have a better idea of how you should price your lessons, you keep what you think you should be getting, and you help give your friends some business.
Plus, there's a good chance your friend is insured for this type of thing, while you most likely are not.
FWIW, I hate doing private lessons most of the time, so I charge a lot for it :).
Most likely your friend would have a better idea of how you should price your lessons, you keep what you think you should be getting, and you help give your friends some business.
Plus, there's a good chance your friend is insured for this type of thing, while you most likely are not.
FWIW, I hate doing private lessons most of the time, so I charge a lot for it :).
ADBrown beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
If your friend pays you generously, gives you mats, etc, why not try and teach privates at his/her place and give him/her whatever cut you think s/he deserves? Most likely your friend would have a better idea of how you should price your lessons, you keep what you think you should be getting, and you help give your friends some business. Plus, there's a good chance your friend is insured for this type of thing, while you most likely are not. FWIW, I hate doing private lessons most of the time, so I charge a lot for it :).
His gym is almost an hour away, so doing much more there is not practical.
MGBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
If you’re thinking about a future martial arts business start yesterday and keep being your biggest critic. However, blocking yourself needs to stop being a thing. Insert David Goggins quote here. The more experience you have the better your product will be.
The product you are selling is your expertise and ability to teach martial arts to one or a room full of diverse individuals. So get as much practice at this as possible either by teaching classes or privates. Privates are a great way to develop a clientele pool and the income generated can help when it comes to opening a place of your own if that’s a goal. Honestly the price really doesn’t matter as much as the experience, especially starting out. Think about it like this, if you charge a measly $20 per hour for a private lesson you’ll likely get more people and if you charge $120 per hour you’ll likely get less people. Pick a price based on your availability and most fall somewhere in the middle. Choosing this way really helps with the struggle with what to charge people.
So, like Coachpotato said be reasonable and see how it goes. If you ever begin to hate teaching privates be like Mr McMasters and charge a lot. Here’s a random motivational quote as my way of throwing a guy some encouragement. ;)
The product you are selling is your expertise and ability to teach martial arts to one or a room full of diverse individuals. So get as much practice at this as possible either by teaching classes or privates. Privates are a great way to develop a clientele pool and the income generated can help when it comes to opening a place of your own if that’s a goal. Honestly the price really doesn’t matter as much as the experience, especially starting out. Think about it like this, if you charge a measly $20 per hour for a private lesson you’ll likely get more people and if you charge $120 per hour you’ll likely get less people. Pick a price based on your availability and most fall somewhere in the middle. Choosing this way really helps with the struggle with what to charge people.
So, like Coachpotato said be reasonable and see how it goes. If you ever begin to hate teaching privates be like Mr McMasters and charge a lot. Here’s a random motivational quote as my way of throwing a guy some encouragement. ;)
BVBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I charge a pretty high prize, because I dont particularly enjoy doing privates and I am not dependent on them. But since "high prizes" differ from country to country, I cant give you an exact number to go for. Check what others in your area are charging. If not BJJ, then ask fitness pts. Chose a number that inspires you to do the private ie invite someone into your home and roll with them.
