Yep, it's a good story, if that's some variation of how he says he showed Rolls the americana and that it was named after him, as 'the American guy' (though IIRC some people dispute that origin). Did you hear the Fightworks Podcast episode with Anderson back in the day? That was awesome, I really miss regularly being able to look forward to another awesome interview from Caleb, especially as he took the site down so I don't think they're archived anywhere (though I saved a bunch). :(