To be fair, the profile you sited has not been verified. The alleged profile lists two 'Pan Am' gold medals, having taken place in New Jersey (IBJJF Pans take place in Florida) and they are not listed as Brown Belt medals. Did I miss something somewhere? Also, afaik, Russian spies who don't like cops can also be bjj black belts.

Have you got any idea what pan ams he would be talking about if it's in New Jersey? Brown belt never the less.

If you want to compare blackbelts we can I’ve competed at the blackbelt level and stood on the IBJJF podium. I have no idea who you are but you seem to be an internet troll you’re more than welcome to come visit me and I can show you how legit my blackbelt is. I’m also registered under the IBJJF (which you are not) so I don’t really need validation from some random like you.

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No-Gi Pan Ams used to be in New York. Maybe that helps.

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First hit on Google when searching for Samer Marji black belt says Samer is a Chuck Anzalone BB (see https://www.davidbranchji[...]nstructors and search for Samer). Yup, THAT Chuck Anzalone, dishonorably discharged and convicted for attempted espionage for Russia as well as other controversies such as banning police officers from training at his academy.

You upvoted Chuck Anzalone's profile yourself, Johan. Don't shit on him. He seems like a nice guy. He admits he was sentenced for espionage but he said he was never a traitor plus they released him early. He also used his courtroom experience when he helped us (you and me) to interrogate the daughter of that other ex-marine who had real skills but an imaginary black belt from imaginary friends. Chuck is our online friend. He helps us catch the bad online guys.

Johan i think you're ready to get your sixt degree Black belt in Dramajitsu.... I personaly don't have the time and energy to search like you do, so your implication in the belt checking can be a great value. But step by step you become one of the most hated person in bjj community, maybe release a little bit the pressure.... here, there seems to be an miss understanding on degrees, but the guy seems to be 100% legit Black belt and lineage, who make his proof in competition... i'm most concern by true fraudes who didn't have the skills anf hide themselves in their gym and self graduated

If someone actually hates me because I strongly believe in applying objectively reviewable minimum criteria when belt checking, I would recommend that person to go see a shrink. I wonder if the IBJJF employees getting paid to review belt certification applications too get told that they are the most hated persons in the BJJ community, after hindering a seemingly 100% legit someone's verification based on similar formal criteria or expectations of documentation. I believe I have always been very explicit about the way I vote and have also tried to be very transparent, consistent and objective about it. To the degree that I've even down voted team members and students of instructors i know personally for not having put in the effort of actually providing evidence. And on several occasions also up voted persons who have right out insulted me. That's the integrity in relation to objective criteria that I'm striving for. I have also discussed on several occasions how I believe this brings value to the community, by giving the world a better and more trustworthy alternative to IBJJF belt certifications. I believe I'm acting according to what the idea was when Beltchecker was founded in the first place. If that makes someone hate, that problem is really not with me. For some interesting discussions on advantages of using rule based assessments and relying on objective criteria over personal expert judgments, I really recommend reading e.g. Noise - A Flaw in Human Judgment by Kahneman, Sibony and Sunstein. It may actually open up some new thoughts and further understanding instead of hating.

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Has to know that you would become a target and probably not very liked with your constant campaigning on here though? I know when i troll on facebook that i will most likely be in FB jail, and probably targeted which i do enjoy at times. :)

If someone actually hates me because I strongly believe in applying objectively reviewable minimum criteria when belt checking, I would recommend that person to go see a shrink. I wonder if the IBJJF employees getting paid to review belt certification applications too get told that they are the most hated persons in the BJJ community, after hindering a seemingly 100% legit someone's verification based on similar formal criteria or expectations of documentation. I believe I have always been very explicit about the way I vote and have also tried to be very transparent, consistent and objective about it. To the degree that I've even down voted team members and students of instructors i know personally for not having put in the effort of actually providing evidence. And on several occasions also up voted persons who have right out insulted me. That's the integrity in relation to objective criteria that I'm striving for. I have also discussed on several occasions how I believe this brings value to the community, by giving the world a better and more trustworthy alternative to IBJJF belt certifications. I believe I'm acting according to what the idea was when Beltchecker was founded in the first place. If that makes someone hate, that problem is really not with me. For some interesting discussions on advantages of using rule based assessments and relying on objective criteria over personal expert judgments, I really recommend reading e.g. Noise - A Flaw in Human Judgment by Kahneman, Sibony and Sunstein. It may actually open up some new thoughts and further understanding instead of hating.

You play video games? I bet you would like something like Prison Architect for some reason.

If someone actually hates me because I strongly believe in applying objectively reviewable minimum criteria when belt checking, I would recommend that person to go see a shrink. I wonder if the IBJJF employees getting paid to review belt certification applications too get told that they are the most hated persons in the BJJ community, after hindering a seemingly 100% legit someone's verification based on similar formal criteria or expectations of documentation. I believe I have always been very explicit about the way I vote and have also tried to be very transparent, consistent and objective about it. To the degree that I've even down voted team members and students of instructors i know personally for not having put in the effort of actually providing evidence. And on several occasions also up voted persons who have right out insulted me. That's the integrity in relation to objective criteria that I'm striving for. I have also discussed on several occasions how I believe this brings value to the community, by giving the world a better and more trustworthy alternative to IBJJF belt certifications. I believe I'm acting according to what the idea was when Beltchecker was founded in the first place. If that makes someone hate, that problem is really not with me. For some interesting discussions on advantages of using rule based assessments and relying on objective criteria over personal expert judgments, I really recommend reading e.g. Noise - A Flaw in Human Judgment by Kahneman, Sibony and Sunstein. It may actually open up some new thoughts and further understanding instead of hating.

You're very inflexible in being willing to understand legitimate reasons why people may not have the evidence you deem credible, and ignore other things that most people do consider credible. Also, to answer your question, yes the IBJJF are absolutely loathed for not accepting ranks in a timely fashion and preventing people competing at their proper rank. The real world is messy, but messy doesn't equal illegitimate. Some people don't want their pictures plastered online, people fall out with past coaches, people promote with sign off from a more distant hierarchy. You should consider these things when people don't have exactly what you think they should have, but obviously have the skill. In my opinion, no order combat sport is remotely close to the proficiency in submissions that BJJ is. Therefore, it would be extremely odd for someone to be able to submit BJJ black belts of the same age and weight, without having had legitimate training in BJJ.

You must have heard of e.g. Masahiko Kimura, Rufino Dos Santos or Kazushi Sakuraba! BJJ isn't the only grappling art around. It's just as much about how you train and pressure test your grappling as well as the individual grappler. I can be very flexible in willing to understand legitimate reasons why someone doesn't have evidence of their promotions. You know it IS possible to both understand this and having set voting criteria by which that results in a down vote. It also is possible to be a Beltchecker member but standing outside the voting system, for those wishing to do so (just remove a previous belt and your profile becomes unvoteable). You really did not answer any question on IBJJF, as you preferred to kick in open doors with criticizing them for practices which have nothing to do with anything more than their money grab scheme. Something I also criticize them for on a regular basis. As it says in the Beltchecker FAQ: 'Having community members verify or refute the documented information based on their own criteria allows the community to determine the standard to which documentation will be held.'. Do you really think it's unreasonable to expect 'documented information', as mentioned in the FAQ, in order not to refute? Or having stricter than average criteria to which you hold documentation? Criteria which is used objectively and with integrity, no matter if they're fellow locals, team mates etc.

It's not really 'stricter than average', it's just stupid to ask someone for a photo that doesn't exist. What exactly are you demanding, that they get in a time machine and make sure a certain moment was photographed otherwise you'll refuse to acknowledge it happened. You know there is a third option for you, just don't vote for some people. You don't actually have to downvote people, you could just do nothing.

It's not really 'stricter than average', it's just stupid to ask someone for a photo that doesn't exist. What exactly are you demanding, that they get in a time machine and make sure a certain moment was photographed otherwise you'll refuse to acknowledge it happened. You know there is a third option for you, just don't vote for some people. You don't actually have to downvote people, you could just do nothing.

I have to disagree. There is nothing stupid there, if you ask for some kind of evidence. A person providing no evidence at all shouldn't get voted for. Reality is, it happens, even if there is neither a picture of the actual promotion, nor a diploma and no confirmation from a coach. To me a downvote is appropriate in such a situation. In the end, this thing is called belt checker, not lets confirm everything based on hearsay.

You can just as well say 'it's just stupid to ask some one for checking a belt while providing nothing that can be checked. What exactly are you demanding, that they get in a time machine and make sure to see a certain moment with their own eyes otherwise you should just step out of the way and let members who up vote anything with a profile have the only voice of the BJJ community on the matter?' Why would anyone then ever bother with uploading evidence to Beltchecker, if evidence can be refuted but no evidence can't?