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Dimitri Andrei
Dimitri Andrei
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1 year(s) ago
I've noticed that older individuals are hesitant to join jiu jitsu classes due to fear of getting injured. Similarly to how we have classes tailored for beginners, kids, and women, I'm considering starting a jiu jitsu class specifically for seniors over 50. The goal is not to segregate them, but to provide a more welcoming environment and prepare them to eventually join the regular classes. What are your thoughts on this idea? Let me know! :)
Peter Gibbs
Peter Gibbs
Blue beltVerified80 forum posts920/200
1 year(s) ago
I don't know that you need to go all the way to 50. One of the things I love about day class where I train is that it's all dads. Average age is mid/upper 30s. Everyone is strong, but nobody is explosive or reckless.

90% of my attendance is day class, but 90% of my injuries came at night class, in part because of the 20 year old white belts with more testosterone than sense.
John Vold
John Vold
Black belt 1st degreeVerified95 forum posts1420/1000
1 year(s) ago
Jiu jitsu should be for everybody; good idea to focus on the elders. They need jiu jitsu too.
Bobby McMasters
Bobby McMasters
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1272 forum posts12800/1000
1 year(s) ago
I tried something like this before, and it never really caught on. Hopefully you'll have better luck than I did.

In the end, people who have excuses not to train: "too busy", "too injured", "too old", etc, will always find an excuse. People who want to train will find a way.

I have plenty of older students in my regular classes.
Chris Baker
Chris Baker
Brown beltVerified573 forum posts3175/700
1 year(s) ago
In all honesty, as an almost 50 year old grappler, I'm actually a bit annoyed when people think that they need to separate me from younger guys. I'm a big boy. I put on my own clothes and everything. I can decide for myself who I should train with and who I shouldn't.
Dimitri Andrei
Dimitri AndreiOP
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1 year(s) ago
In all honesty, as an almost 50 year old grappler, I'm actually a bit annoyed when people think that they need to separate me from younger guys. I'm a big boy. I put on my own clothes and everything. I can decide for myself who I should train with and who I shouldn't.
Well, that's the point you have almost ten years of jiu-jitsu so you started in your late 30s, and the idea is to introduce them to it not separate them from it.
Deepu
Deepu
Black beltVerified547 forum posts6260/1000
1 year(s) ago
We recently started a 40+ class on Sunday mornings. Already has around 10 regulars coming in. I haven't been yet, too early for my old ass (no I'm not yet at the age where I go to sleep at 8 pm and wake up at 5 am)
Joe Cavett
Joe Cavett
Purple beltVerified433 forum posts4005/400
1 year(s) ago
In the end, people who have excuses not to train: 'too busy', 'too injured', 'too old', etc, will always find an excuse. People who want to train will find a way. I have plenty of older students in my regular classes.
^^^^This. I'm 48 now and was "old" at 39 when I started. We have lots of older grapplers on our mats. The common denominator is that they all want to train. There are many others who come in and are looking for an excuse from day one. We've seen similar things from our women's program. Those that want to train will come to normal classes and those that don't won't stick with the women's program either.
Megaton
Megaton
Black beltVerified555 forum posts6875/1000
1 year(s) ago
We recently started a 40+ class on Sunday mornings. Already has around 10 regulars coming in. I haven't been yet, too early for my old ass (no I'm not yet at the age where I go to sleep at 8 pm and wake up at 5 am)
What does it mean if I go to bed early and wake up at 5?
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Megaton
Megaton
Black beltVerified555 forum posts6875/1000
1 year(s) ago
Well, that's the point you have almost ten years of jiu-jitsu so you started in your late 30s, and the idea is to introduce them to it not separate them from it.
I think it might have been misunderstood in your first post. Your intention is to provide an introductory class for people over 50, that are new to the sport. This way they can get over the fear of being injured. I think that is a good idea.

One thing I don’t like is how you stated “SENIORS over 50” I am 53, and do not qualify for Social Security, movie theater discounts, restaurant discounts, Medicare, or even Senior living communities, cellphone bills… so….
Wolfram Sorg
Wolfram Sorg
Black beltVerified34 forum posts3505/1000
1 year(s) ago
I think the environment should be welcoming to everyone. We pair up the highest belt with the lowest belt for technique and look for matching vibes when rolling. So someone that has issues controlling himself will never go with a new guy or someone more fragile in any way. If you are a student that thinks crushing people is success, we will have a conversation.

Everyone in the gym should know when to go light and how to do so. I understand that there is a need for kids classes to a certain age but everyone else should feel in the right place, always. I think it is a benefit having people from all walks of life on the mat at the same time.
Derek Sasaki
Derek Sasaki
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified46 forum posts9730/1000
1 year(s) ago
Well, when you see, of the seniors that really need to do jujutsu. I am glad that I do it. I will be 63 in January and a lot of times. It’s the movements that keep me healthy. Not so much the competition though those are fun. You know teaching in the seniors communication skills like tell people. Hey I’m older communicate with people say hey you wanna roll. Nice and easy. I think it’s great and then you pick and choose your partners because as a senior, we can get hurt. Just walking down the street. It’s better that they learn a skill, especially like how to break fall and stuff like that. That’ll help him there in their senior years. I hope it works out for your brother.
Brian Van Miltenburg
Brian Van Miltenburg
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified117 forum posts6070/1000
1 year(s) ago
I think doing a -30 class would be more effective, since people generally dont want to consider themselves old or senior. Denial is real haha
Anthony Restuccia
Anthony Restuccia
Black beltVerified650 forum posts12595/1000
1 year(s) ago
As a 50 year old, I probably wouldn't attend. I don't want a "special" class just because I'm close to death. But that's my opinion.
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified976 forum posts9215/1000
1 year(s) ago
What does it mean if I go to bed early and wake up at 5?
Means you F'ing old dude!!!
Chris Baker
Chris Baker
Brown beltVerified573 forum posts3175/700
1 year(s) ago
Well, that's the point you have almost ten years of jiu-jitsu so you started in your late 30s, and the idea is to introduce them to it not separate them from it.
First of all, a clarification: I am 49 now and have been training 9 years. That means I started BJJ at 40 now in my 30s. Also just to put a fine point on it, I was never a very athletic person before that, I was easily over 20 kilograms overweight and in terrible shape. I never wanted a +40 class. And now that in aber to enter my 50s, I want them even less. Hell, I don't even compete in my age group. Local tournaments I normally just compete in the adult division. I'll do masters at large tournaments like Europeans or Worlds, but even then I'm normally competing 10 to 15 years younger and I have yet to hear from anyone that they thought my matches were the easy ones.

Like I said, I'm a big boy. I can decide who to train with and who I won't. And if I may ask without trying to sound rude, If you're wanting advice from people in a particular age group, then shouldn't you want information from people in that age group when they say there's a fundamental flaw in the topic as a whole?

Honestly, overall, the main thing I've noticed among the older grapplers, not only in my gym but also other gyms I've visited, is that we generally want to be taken more seriously rather than effectively be told "you're too old and need special treatment because you can't keep up otherwise".
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified976 forum posts9215/1000
1 year(s) ago
Just remember you are always gonna be older! LOL
The only one older is O.M.P
Chris Baker
Chris Baker
Brown beltVerified573 forum posts3175/700
1 year(s) ago
^^^^This. I'm 48 now and was 'old' at 39 when I started. We have lots of older grapplers on our mats. The common denominator is that they all want to train. There are many others who come in and are looking for an excuse from day one. We've seen similar things from our women's program. Those that want to train will come to normal classes and those that don't won't stick with the women's program either.
THIS!!!! ALL OF THIS!!!!!!
Dan Pomer
Dan Pomer
Black belt 1st degreeVerified4 forum posts2090/1000
1 year(s) ago
In our gym there are 3 trainers in the late fifties including me. There is also another guy in his seventies with a coral belt. I am aware of the implications of age, but I have already met adults who come to explode and youngsters who play gently BJJ sparring. its only a game. It's probably a matter of atmosphere in the gym and the coach's responsibility to stop the fools.
Mark Gilston
Mark Gilston
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified200 forum posts6335/1000
1 year(s) ago
In all honesty, as an almost 50 year old grappler, I'm actually a bit annoyed when people think that they need to separate me from younger guys. I'm a big boy. I put on my own clothes and everything. I can decide for myself who I should train with and who I shouldn't.
I have to agree with this perspective. In our classes the age ranges from 14 to late 60s, and the older grapplers train everywhere from gentle rolling to balls to the wall. Most beginning older grapplers tend to be very stiff which makes learning and improving quite a slow process, but training with younger and more experienced folks actually can help them overcome this issue. I think classes sorted by level is much more useful than classes sorted by age.

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