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5 year(s) ago • 1502 views • 45 replies

Ruadhán Macfadden
Ruadhán Macfadden
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5 year(s) ago
I've never been good at watching instructionals in the sense of full-on DVD releases. I prefer a short, focused overview of the technique in question, and then going and trying it out myself. Youtube is usually my first and last port of call. Especially since I've been looking almost exclusively at standup stuff for the past two years or so. Between Judo, Sambo, and wrestling, there's just so much solid stuff online entirely for free.

- Travis Stevens
- Shintaro Higashi
- Cary Kolat
- Vlad Koulikov
- Ivan Vasylchuk (Sila Partera)
- Steve Scott (Welcome Mat)

Plus countless random French/Italian/Korean etc. guys showing pretty much any throw variation you can think to search for. Sometimes I'll get a decent tip from a ten-year old video with 24 views.
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Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
5 year(s) ago
I prefer a short, focused overview of the technique in question
Yep, I'm the same, which is why I normally either watch instructionals at high speed (2x or 3x) and/or skip ahead. ESPECIALLY with Priit. I use the same tactic as when I attend his classes: take notes when he isn't moving and giving some extended lecture on how something is like boxing or whatever, then pay attention once he starts moving again and actually doing a technique. Works perfectly for his DVD/video sets too (especially as if you drag the cursor along the progress bar, it will show you when Priit starts to move again). :P
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
5 year(s) ago
I find that it's a problem with a lot of instructors, they talk too much. People like Priit, Wim, Danaher, Haueter etc are all excellent instructors (I've gotten a huge amount from Priit's classes especially), but my mind starts wandering because they've spent 10 minutes going off on a tangent. This is why my favourite instructors are people like Lilo, Kenny P, Aaron Milam, Ana Y, Charles H etc. They show the technique without also giving me an extended lecture I don't want to hear. :P
Deepu
Deepu
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5 year(s) ago
Ooo, the second part of that sounds especially appealing, as the chest beating frat boy covidiot humble lion bullshit is why I can't stomach watching a lot of the DDS people. However, I'm not convinced it is entirely Danaher's fault that a number of his top guys seem to be such arseholes. After all, Danaher ALSO produced at least two black belts who are awesome human beings and excellent instructors, Aaron Milam and Jeff Knight. As three of you have recommended Glick now, I'll check him out. I'm assuming Glick is therefore more like Aaron and Jeff, as opposed to like Gordon Ryan? And thanks for the video! Another classic example of BJJ terminology being totally non-standardised. I've used that escape for years (except unsurprisingly I don't do for a leg lock set up, I go to butterfly guard), but I've always called it 'bump to butterfly', or simply 'mount escape to butterfly'. Does everybody call it the kipping escape and I'm way behind the curve? ;) http://www.slideyfoot.com[...]0Butterfly
First I ever heard it called Kipping. Did that as a whitebelt and heelhooked my garage grappling partner ... Like over 20 years ago lol.
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
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5 year(s) ago
Funny I study my game..

Because I am an ego maniac and really love me and am my own best friend.. Honestly I get more out of studying my own game looking for tendencies, flaws and seeing how my body is actually dealing with injury and age.. In my mind I am one thing and in video another. When I get done screaming obscenties about how bad i suck at the screen I regroup and analyze

I find the helps ME as I know a shit load of techniques already and have a game that because of years in and injuries is not going to really evolve or change radically. My goal is to get tighter, refine and simplify. So tiny corrections seem to help me far more than new things.

I watch instructional of teachers I like in the hopes of getting better at verbalizing and breaking down techniques better.. Funny thing is I dislike Danhers videos because I get bored. I know he is a great teacher but he talks a lot and that is a habit I don't want to pick as I try to make things more simplistic
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
5 year(s) ago
Funny I study my game.. Because I am an ego maniac and really love me and am my own best friend.. Honestly I get more out of studying my own game looking for tendencies, flaws and seeing how my body is actually dealing with injury and age.. In my mind I am one thing and in video another. When I get done screaming obscenties about how bad i suck at the screen I regroup and analyze I find the helps ME as I know a shit load of techniques already and have a game that because of years in and injuries is not going to really evolve or change radically. My goal is to get tighter, refine and simplify. So tiny corrections seem to help me far more than new things. I watch instructional of teachers I like in the hopes of getting better at verbalizing and breaking down techniques better.. Funny thing is I dislike Danhers videos because I get bored. I know he is a great teacher but he talks a lot and that is a habit I don't want to pick as I try to make things more simplistic
I'm also a massive narcissist and love looking at videos of myself. :P

In all seriousness, I agree: recording yourself sparring is really useful for working out gaps in your game and how to improve. The same is true in terms of watching videos of yourself teaching. You can see if you're talking too much, too fast, are you being articulate, did you miss any details etc. I will watch the video of myself teaching a technique before I teach it again, really useful, I find.
Deepu
Deepu
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5 year(s) ago
Only reason I watch instructionals that aren't my game is to help out students. But even then, I still mostly teach my game and refer the students to said instructionals. I'm in awe of instructors that have complete games and can teach pretty much anything. Takes a special brain.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
I'm in awe of instructors that have complete games and can teach pretty much anything.
On a related note, as much as I hate his obnoxious marketing on BJJ Fanatics, this is one of the things that impresses me about Bernardo Faria. Teaching not only a complete game but also being able to effectively teach completely different size people is a relatively rare skill in BJJ, most instructors I've seen find it at least a little difficult to teach somebody way bigger or way smaller than them. Faria is a massive guy, but he's just as good at teaching teeny tiny people like me, as he is at teaching giant monsters like him. ;)
Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified65 forum posts3980/1000
5 year(s) ago
I'm also a massive narcissist and love looking at videos of myself. :P In all seriousness, I agree: recording yourself sparring is really useful for working out gaps in your game and how to improve. The same is true in terms of watching videos of yourself teaching. You can see if you're talking too much, too fast, are you being articulate, did you miss any details etc. I will watch the video of myself teaching a technique before I teach it again, really useful, I find.
I’ve watched plenty of my own instructional videos, and made improvements in that format but never thought to record a group class or private with the intention to study and improve that type of teaching. Great idea!
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Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
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5 year(s) ago
Kipping mount escape? Interesting, are there any vids? is that literally what it sounds like, trying to fling yourself straight up?
Here’s a good example of it used in competition, starting at 3:04

https://youtu.be/aah7RJPnfFk

When I was trying it against experienced grapplers on Saturday I was both getting stuck there and my abs were fatiguing really bad because I was trying to push my partner straight up above me and I was more flat on my back. When I tried it again yesterday I was bridging my partners weight to the side first before starting to kip and it made a big difference with my success, and in the video it looks like Tonon is only successful when he is able to move maxwells weight off of his centerline to the side too. Both Saturday and yesterday it was more difficult to make it work against that heavy hip/ankles crossed mount that Maxwell plays in the video, but possible.

The project continues haha
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
I’ve watched plenty of my own instructional videos, and made improvements in that format but never thought to record a group class or private with the intention to study and improve that type of teaching. Great idea!
I can highly recommend, it makes a big difference. Along with getting to analyse your teaching, it's also an easy way of building up regular social media content. I do a quick edit on the teaching vids to get them down to a minute, then put them up on Instagram every day with the school schedule for that day, cross-posting from Instagram to Twitter and Facebook.

E.g.: https://www.instagram.com[...]rtemisbjj/
Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified65 forum posts3980/1000
5 year(s) ago
I've never been good at watching instructionals in the sense of full-on DVD releases. I prefer a short, focused overview of the technique in question, and then going and trying it out myself. Youtube is usually my first and last port of call. Especially since I've been looking almost exclusively at standup stuff for the past two years or so. Between Judo, Sambo, and wrestling, there's just so much solid stuff online entirely for free. - Travis Stevens - Shintaro Higashi - Cary Kolat - Vlad Koulikov - Ivan Vasylchuk (Sila Partera) - Steve Scott (Welcome Mat) Plus countless random French/Italian/Korean etc. guys showing pretty much any throw variation you can think to search for. Sometimes I'll get a decent tip from a ten-year old video with 24 views.
I really like Kolats stuff too. John smith has great information online as well

https://youtu.be/VnBNNOEOaBY

There are a bunch of his videos on this channel
Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified65 forum posts3980/1000
5 year(s) ago
I can highly recommend, it makes a big difference. Along with getting to analyse your teaching, it's also an easy way of building up regular social media content. I do a quick edit on the teaching vids to get them down to a minute, then put them up on Instagram every day with the school schedule for that day, cross-posting from Instagram to Twitter and Facebook. E.g.: https://www.instagram.com[...]rtemisbjj/
Nice, good idea too on the social media content!
Josh Vogel
Josh VogelOP
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified65 forum posts3980/1000
5 year(s) ago
Ooo, the second part of that sounds especially appealing, as the chest beating frat boy covidiot humble lion bullshit is why I can't stomach watching a lot of the DDS people. However, I'm not convinced it is entirely Danaher's fault that a number of his top guys seem to be such arseholes. After all, Danaher ALSO produced at least two black belts who are awesome human beings and excellent instructors, Aaron Milam and Jeff Knight. As three of you have recommended Glick now, I'll check him out. I'm assuming Glick is therefore more like Aaron and Jeff, as opposed to like Gordon Ryan? And thanks for the video! Another classic example of BJJ terminology being totally non-standardised. I've used that escape for years (except unsurprisingly I don't do for a leg lock set up, I go to butterfly guard), but I've always called it 'bump to butterfly', or simply 'mount escape to butterfly'. Does everybody call it the kipping escape and I'm way behind the curve? ;) http://www.slideyfoot.com[...]0Butterfly
Yeah, I’ve used the version you were doing in the video a fair amount in the past as a bridge to elevate the opponent, hands/forearms hold them in place, hips drop as you insert your butterfly hooks. The kipping is different though as you might bridge once to shift your opponents weight or to elevate them, but it’s more about kipping your shins and keeping your feet off the mat to make the space for the butterfly hooks to enter.

I still have to tinker with it more to explore what all the moving parts do exactly and to compare accurately with the bridge and insert hooks one

Nick Tyau
Nick Tyau
Black belt 1st degreeVerified314 forum posts4290/1000
5 year(s) ago
Rob Biernacki is great for putting things into systems. Much the way danaher does it, but for me he does it more concisely. I’m looking at leg locks now.

Shintaro higashi is great for integrating judo to bjj. Anything he does with Brian glick is awesome

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