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R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
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5 year(s) ago
We are currently on a 28 day lockdown (3rd time) and now they are talking about stay at home orders.
Don't know what's going to happen.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1900 forum posts3635/1000
5 year(s) ago
England will be open for non-contact from 17th May, then back to full contact in late June, unless something happens (e.g., the British govt messes up yet again, some new covid strain rips through the country, vaccinations slow way down, etc). I'd much rather the lockdown easing was delayed further, until the population was fully vaccinated, but I can understand that it's a tough sell to get people to wait until the Autumn. Also, given BJJ is my job, I unfortunately don't have the luxury of waiting that long anyway.

We'll have to wait and see what happens. The last five years have been absolutely nuts, I have no idea what to expect now and have made my peace with that. :P
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
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5 year(s) ago
We are 100% mask free, up to businesses whether they want to limit or require face coverings. Letting us be adults. Lowest rate of infections and hospitals since June here in Texas. And our class was the biggest it had been since pre lockdowns these last 2 weeks. Awesomeness! Texas! I mean this guy to my left was a lightweight before the lockdown (I am on the right, I am 6 foot 225 lbs). Get back in the gyms and get healthy!
Texas is doing it right. Im in NY/NJ metro area. We are mostly open too but we cant be adults and make our own decisions like in Texas, masks are required everywhere here.
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Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
Texas is doing it right.
Here's how that's not true.

Texas lifted their restrictions statewide. Then the city of Austin decided that they would keep some of the restrictions in place. The State of Texas threatened to sue the city of Austin.

So, in other words, the State of Texas decided they didn't like big government (US Federal) telling them what to do, and then turned around and acted as big government to their local constituents and told them what to do.

Hypocrisy.

Let's look at Florida next, cause that's the other place that so many people are pointing to as the beacon on FREEDOM.

They had a local problem with some radioactively contaminated water. First thing they did was declare a State of Emergency. Do you know what declaring a State of Emergency means?

It means you are, essentially, declaring emergency bankruptcy and need money from the Federal government to help cover costs. On record with FEMA, Florida has declared 24 National Emergencies. New Jersey has declared 12. What this points out is that Florida, which has a reputation for being Super Red and it's citizens hate big government, are one of the biggest requestors of help from that same government.

Hypocrisy.

BTW.....I realize that most 'Mericans are going to see this as a Right v.s Left argument and you would be wrong. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. These factual representations of the truth of American politics can be done for both sides all day. Hell, all week.

The real trick is not picking sides. Then it's easy to see the real problem which is....picking sides.

Oh, and BTW...Texas declared a State of Emergency for COVID-19 on January 20, 2020.
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Ian Blake
Ian Blake
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5 year(s) ago
Here's how that's not true. Texas lifted their restrictions statewide. Then the city of Austin decided that they would keep some of the restrictions in place. The State of Texas threatened to sue the city of Austin. So, in other words, the State of Texas decided they didn't like big government (US Federal) telling them what to do, and then turned around and acted as big government to their local constituents and told them what to do. Hypocrisy.
See here is how it is not hypocrisy. We have state rights in our constitution, we do not have county or city rights that are comparable in the Texas constitution.

The state decided that the government of any kind could not restrict the rights of Texans. So when Austin decided and Harris county tried they got shut down because this is now up to the people. Texas sued them to leave it up to the individual. If you own a business it is up to you what your business can or cannot restrict, not up to the state or feds to tell you how to run your business. So when Texas stood up for the people when they sued Austin hey did the same thing when they stood up against the federal government. We have that right as a state, but the framers of the Texas constitution did not give those rights to our city and county leaders, we left these rights to our individual practice. So a restaurant in Austin can absolutely stay at 25% and require masks and gloves. The government of any kind cannot force it on you. But as a consumer you choose where to eat or shop.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
See here is how it is not hypocrisy. We have state rights in our constitution, we do not have county or city rights that are comparable in the Texas constitution. The state decided that the government of any kind could not restrict the rights of Texans. So when Austin decided and Harris county tried they got shut down because this is now up to the people. Texas sued them to leave it up to the individual. If you own a business it is up to you what your business can or cannot restrict, not up to the state or feds to tell you how to run your business. So when Texas stood up for the people when they sued Austin hey did the same thing when they stood up against the federal government. We have that right as a state, but the framers of the Texas constitution did not give those rights to our city and county leaders, we left these rights to our individual practice. So a restaurant in Austin can absolutely stay at 25% and require masks and gloves. The government of any kind cannot force it on you. But as a consumer you choose where to eat or shop.
Where do you see that in the ruling the Texas Constitution? I see this:

"Cities having more than five thousand (5000) inhabitants may, by a majority vote of the qualified voters of said city, at an election held for that purpose, adopt or amend their charters."

Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
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5 year(s) ago
That's not how states rights works. In this case the state is supreme not the local city or county government. When it comes to states vs the federal government that is where it can get tricky. In certain cases the federal government is supreme but a state can simply choose to ignore the federal governments dictates, which they do from time to time. The states created the federal government, not the other way around. Our whole system was set up with states rights in mind. Specifically the 10th amendment.

I agree with Ian. It should be up to the individual business owner whether they want to mandate masks or not and you as an individual whether you want to enter a business that does or does not mandate masks. You as an adult decide whether the risk is too much or acceptable.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
a state can simply choose to ignore the federal governments dictates, which they do from time to time.
This is 100% not true.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
And, for the record....turning wearing a mask into a die on your sword issue is hysterical to me. It's really not a big deal to put on a mask.

Now, also for the record....I agree the government shouldn't mandate the mask. In fact, I'm fairly certain most people not wearing them simply do it BECAUSE they were told to. What it SHOULD be is that your insurance company should be able to deny you coverage if you are not wearing a mask. And if you get sick and are not wearing a mask you should be liable for getting someone else sick. "Mericans get compliant real quick when they get hit in the pocket book.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
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5 year(s) ago
This is 100% not true.
Marijuana is a pretty good example. 11 states have legalized it for recreational use and 34 have medical marijuana. It is still a schedule 1 federal drug and very illegal. This is a perfect example of states choosing to ignore federal laws.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
And, for the record....turning wearing a mask into a die on your sword issue is hysterical to me. It's really not a big deal to put on a mask.
Yep, it's been very weird to see a super basic public health provision suddenly becoming a political football. People in Asia must think the rest of the world are idiots, wearing a mask has been normal over there for a long time.

Plus it keeps my face toasty warm in winter. I'm going to keep wearing them every winter, with the bonus that along with preventing me from spreading disease, it will piss off conspiracy theorists. :P
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
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5 year(s) ago
it will piss off conspiracy theorists. :P
Are you calling me a conspiracy theorist? How exactly is anything I typed here a conspiracy? I dont get pissed off if people wear a mask. Why would I? They are adults and choose to wear a mask. Good for them.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
I wasn't referring to anybody specifically on this thread, I've no idea what your views are. But yeah, I will stop there, as I've been pulled up about getting political on here before.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
Marijuana is a pretty good example. 11 states have legalized it for recreational use and 34 have medical marijuana. It is still a schedule 1 federal drug and very illegal. This is a perfect example of states choosing to ignore federal laws.
Its been decriminalized. That simply means they are choosing not to charge you.
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
But yeah, I will stop there, as I've been pulled up about getting political on here before.
Really? That's a bad sign.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
Michael Guarneri, Jr.
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5 year(s) ago
Its been decriminalized. That simply means they are choosing not to charge you.
Its been legalized in 11 states. NY being the latest. A private citizen in NY can have I believe 5 ounces of weed on their person and can now smoke in public just like a cigarette. But to your point about decriminalization that is ignoring federal law. The feds say its illegal and bad the States that decriminalized it say we dont care we wont prosecute, thereby ignoring federal laws, like I stated.
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
Really? That's a bad sign.
I can understand why Christian has that rule. A significant chunk of us on this forum are quite likely to meet up in person at BJJ Globetrotters Camps, so it makes sense to avoid stoking vicious political discussion. I doubt Christian wants to try and sort that out at camp. I know I wouldn't enjoy it at the small Artemis BJJ camps I run, so I can empathise.

And meh, I can get all the political chat I could want on places like reddit (I'm bounce between r/ukpolitics, r/LibDem and r/Tories, among other places), so it's not like I have to do it here too. ;)
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
Its been legalized in 11 states. NY being the latest. A private citizen in NY can have I believe 5 ounces of weed on their person and can now smoke in public just like a cigarette. But to your point about decriminalization that is ignoring federal law. The feds say its illegal and bad the States that decriminalized it say we dont care we wont prosecute, thereby ignoring federal laws, like I stated.
It's not legal. It's decriminalized. There's a difference.

The Justice Department can't enforce the drug laws across all the states. If a state chooses to not prosecute then the Justice department COULD sue that state. Doesn't mean they will, but they could.

If you want to use that as your example of how individual states can "ignore" federal laws then good on you, I guess. That's not how it works, but if you need it to work that way to make it easier for you then you can believe that.

Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
I can understand why Christian has that rule. A significant chunk of us on this forum are quite likely to meet up in person at BJJ Globetrotters Camps, so it makes sense to avoid stoking vicious political discussion. I doubt Christian wants to try and sort that out at camp. I know I wouldn't enjoy it at the small Artemis BJJ camps I run, so I can empathise. And meh, I can get all the political chat I could want on places like reddit (I'm bounce between r/ukpolitics, r/LibDem and r/Tories, among other places), so it's not like I have to do it here too. ;)
I disagree. I believe one of the huge problems we all are having is the inability to accept that other people may have differing opinions. Shutting down a conversation does not make that happen. That just means we can't communicate anymore. That's no good.

Say your piece. If I disagree I will say so. It's a debate.

If you can't debate me without losing your temper, I can't really trust you. I certainly don't want to roll with you, I can tell you that.
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Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
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5 year(s) ago
I disagree. I believe one of the huge problems we all are having is the inability to accept that other people may have differing opinions. Shutting down a conversation does not make that happen. That just means we can't communicate anymore. That's no good. Say your piece. If I disagree I will say so. It's a debate. If you can't debate me without losing your temper, I can't really trust you. I certainly don't want to roll with you, I can tell you that.
I enjoy discussing politics, because it is interesting hearing other viewpoints (as long as the discussion remains civil, which can be a big if), but yeah, up to Christian. I can see why he's gone that route. And like I said, I get more than enough political discussion elsewhere anyway. ;)
Joemoplata
Joemoplata
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5 year(s) ago
I enjoy discussing politics, because it is interesting hearing other viewpoints (as long as the discussion remains civil, which can be a big if), but yeah, up to Christian. I can see why he's gone that route. And like I said, I get more than enough political discussion elsewhere anyway. ;)
Good point. I'm in the DC suburbs, maybe I'm getting in TOO much politics.
Ian Blake
Ian Blake
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5 year(s) ago
The Texas constitution allows the city of Austin, to hold a specific election and choose to vote in, through a public election, a mask mandate. The mayor and city council cannot. Nor can the county officials. It was written so no government entity would have too much power and for stuff to move slow so we don’t do weird off the cuff law stuff.

Of course that is also lost on a lot of folks. Our entire constitutional republic is supposed to drag by and not react to mob mentality. People get mad that our government moves too slowly to make policy, but it is designed that way.

And for the marijuana stuff. Get caught in a national forest or an airport and you can be brought up on federal charges. I think crossing state lines can get you charged federally as well.

And yes states can ignore the federal government, but the feds eventually hold enough of the purse strings that they will eventually fold.
Brandon Belew
Brandon Belew
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5 year(s) ago
Kansas they recently put into law that anyone can contest a county or schools restrictions and a court has to hear the case in very few days and if they rule against the individual the individual can sue the entity, if they ruled in favor the individual was immune from the order.

So now counties and schools are basically dropping all restrictions because they can't afford a constant barrage of litigation. Which essentially took all power away from local elected officials, wrong in my opinion.

That's as political as i'll get :)
Ben Shaw
Ben Shaw
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5 year(s) ago
Ooo, interesting! I'm only a brown belt, but I am 100% planning to buy a house in Spain (for staying over the winter, back in the UK for the rest of the year) and open an affiliate school there in future. I love Spain, I've also been heading over regularly to various areas to see which areas I like enough to want to live there (my favourite so far was Lo Pagán). So it is useful to know which areas in Spain don't have much BJJ: what I'm looking for is somewhere in or near a university town, not too far from the coast and not too windy (which rules out most of the Costa de la Luz, whereas the Costa de la Sol is a little too pricey and touristy for me, though I haven't fully explored the options yet). :D
How are you still a brown? I remember reading your blog back when i first started training and you were a blue or purple then. Reminds me of an instructor I had in Beijing who moved there as a brown and never ranked up to black (Andy Pi).

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