I follow your point but my experience dropping in on various clubs is that there's a disproportionate attention on shrimping drills as opposed to say granby rolls. I don't know that I've been to a representative sample of clubs but I'd be interested if your experience is the same? And if so, do you think shrimping deserves more attention?

And just one thing to all you Black Belts. Us White Belts are like children...we will say the dumbest things. We will be stubborn and think we know it all even when we know nothing. We will continue to think this way in many aspects time and time again seeming to never learn the basic concept that Jon Snow never learned. But we as white belts are suppose to look up to you and respect what you have to say. You have earned it...you have been through the journey of being humbled a million times over and sat through the lord of the rings journey listening to samwise gamgee constantly trying to sabotage your journey and eat your food every step of the way. Over 90% of the Black Belts on here are truly humble, and ever so patient to the stupid things that others say. Patience and Character are more the mark of a Black Belt then skill. It's more of a mental achievement then a physical one...being able to stand the test of time and impact who you are as a person and make you a better person. Just ask yourself one question, would you treat your child in such a way that you would insult them and mock them instead of trying to be patient with them and try to help them understand even if it's impossible for them to understand at their current state of mind as it's just not developed enough to comprehend what you have to say. There is a way to be able to have a sense of humor even in the face of immature stubborn stupidity that your being faced with. And there is another way that will only cause them to lose all respect for you. It's one thing to just laugh something off or post a funny picture and then ignore it. It's another to actually choose to respond in kind or with immaturity. It's up to you how you want to handle things but I would just hope that someone who has been humbled a million times would have acquired the patience to deal with a fool. Because if you haven't then maybe you still need be to humbled a bit more.

I follow your point but my experience dropping in on various clubs is that there's a disproportionate attention on shrimping drills as opposed to say granby rolls. I don't know that I've been to a representative sample of clubs but I'd be interested if your experience is the same? And if so, do you think shrimping deserves more attention?

(I guess noone is debating 'shrimp' having a place in escaping once the guard has been passed right?)

News just in from Ryan Hall: 'I don't think the shrimp is a real move. It's junk, it's actual junk. Not only will it waste your time, it will be like an albatross hanging on you because it effects how you think of things going forward.' March 21st 2021: https://www.youtube.com/w[...]oh_cE_nQH0 I guess sometimes it takes an innocent white belt to say that the emperor has no clothes on.

I use the shrimp movement all the time if I get top mounted.

That's just Ryan trolling.

I tend to shrimp every night in my bed when changing my sleeping position...very effective.

I tend to shrimp every night in my bed when changing my sleeping position...very effective.

I tend to shrimp every night in my bed when changing my sleeping position...very effective.