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Do many BJJ Blackbelts suffer from a God Complex?
2 year(s) ago • 2409 views • 48 replies
PZBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
Have you been involved in other martial arts?
I've trained judo for a total of 6 years (4 of those as a kid). When I came back to judo as an adult green belt some of the black belts couldn't get over getting tapped or thrown by me because of their "god syndrome".
I also touched a little bit of freestyle wrestling. My coach happens to be super humble. His younger friend who is an international level athlete asked me however how is it possible that none of the black belts at the club where he started bjj recently couldn't tap him out and why they gave him his blue belt after only 2 months of training.
I've been also teaching grappling for MMA for a short period of time. The MMA headcoach decided it wasn't a job for me after I honestly answered to one of the assistant coaches what I think of the armbar technique he showed to the team. My "god syndrome" kicked in and I couldn't let "a white belt" get away with repeating word-for-word Renzo Gracie's youtube tutorial but missing out some important details.
I also touched a little bit of freestyle wrestling. My coach happens to be super humble. His younger friend who is an international level athlete asked me however how is it possible that none of the black belts at the club where he started bjj recently couldn't tap him out and why they gave him his blue belt after only 2 months of training.
I've been also teaching grappling for MMA for a short period of time. The MMA headcoach decided it wasn't a job for me after I honestly answered to one of the assistant coaches what I think of the armbar technique he showed to the team. My "god syndrome" kicked in and I couldn't let "a white belt" get away with repeating word-for-word Renzo Gracie's youtube tutorial but missing out some important details.
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MGBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
Maybe not a God Complex.... BUT CLOSE.. https://www.bjjee.com/art[...]lt-in-bjj/ https://jiujitsucraft.com[...]-crap-god/
Nope that fits the definition pretty good. The definition of God Complex has grown since Emest’s original description.
And might I add, hilarious article.
And might I add, hilarious article.
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
It can certainly happen, but there are ways of inoculating yourself. Growing up in the UK is one relatively effective method, the impulse to self-deprecate is very strong here. If you grow up in the US, waaaaaay higher chance of god complex, given that self-confidence and the whole concept of 'being successful' is massively lionised over there. ;)
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
If one rates one's worth, and self-esteem, by whether one can makes other human beings "tap", that is an incredibly insecure headology.
Almost pathological, if you think about it.
And also absurd.
Almost pathological, if you think about it.
And also absurd.
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PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
I have to say I would much rather be remembered for how I impacted the live of others than my ability to fight..
That said I do have a Satan complex
That said I do have a Satan complex
GDBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Hei folks, I'm new here. It's very interesting to hear what's going on outside Brazil in that matter. In Brazil there's a lot of black belts and even colored belts who have a god complex. Many think just because they practice bjj they already are in position to make statements on any matter and that should be set as the norm as they think of themselves as flawless individuals.
It's not uncommon, unfortunately, to witness and hear histories from black belts who forbid people to even talk to other team members, even date this or that person, it's very disturbing.
Along with that many black belts here are also religious leaders or security professionals, that added to teacher and belt status tend to inflate some egos like a balloon. The general sociability of people in Brazil is getting crazy weird.
Personally I think that the god complex comes and gets potencialized by the lack of a more well defined moral and ethics code in bjj added to the blind devotion people sometimes have with their superiors.
It's not uncommon, unfortunately, to witness and hear histories from black belts who forbid people to even talk to other team members, even date this or that person, it's very disturbing.
Along with that many black belts here are also religious leaders or security professionals, that added to teacher and belt status tend to inflate some egos like a balloon. The general sociability of people in Brazil is getting crazy weird.
Personally I think that the god complex comes and gets potencialized by the lack of a more well defined moral and ethics code in bjj added to the blind devotion people sometimes have with their superiors.
BMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
In Brazil there's a lot of black belts and even colored belts who have a god complex.
Yeah, it's not just in Brazil, homie. :(
MBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
It can certainly happen, but there are ways of inoculating yourself. Growing up in the UK is one relatively effective method, the impulse to self-deprecate is very strong here. If you grow up in the US, waaaaaay higher chance of god complex, given that self-confidence and the whole concept of 'being successful' is massively lionised over there. ;)
Honestly, I dislike general opinions (prejudice) stated as fact when it is based on a perceived stereotype that one might hold.
I think the drive for success is needed, it inspires innovation and learning. Self-worth and self-esteem are important factors in one’s growth. Within mental health the lack of these can result in substance abuse. I bring this up because self-deprecation , in my opinion, is just an attempt to appear more modest, more likeable. There is an impact of this said self-deprecation that results in lower self-esteem. Constantly putting yourself down can become a habit and damage your mental health.
I think as good humans we need to create this balance of high self-worth and self-esteem without developing the superiority complex.
Practice kindness
I think the drive for success is needed, it inspires innovation and learning. Self-worth and self-esteem are important factors in one’s growth. Within mental health the lack of these can result in substance abuse. I bring this up because self-deprecation , in my opinion, is just an attempt to appear more modest, more likeable. There is an impact of this said self-deprecation that results in lower self-esteem. Constantly putting yourself down can become a habit and damage your mental health.
I think as good humans we need to create this balance of high self-worth and self-esteem without developing the superiority complex.
Practice kindness
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
It can certainly happen, but there are ways of inoculating yourself. Growing up in the UK is one relatively effective method, the impulse to self-deprecate is very strong here. If you grow up in the US, waaaaaay higher chance of god complex, given that self-confidence and the whole concept of 'being successful' is massively lionised over there. ;)
People in the U.K. are much more self-confident about the state of their oral hygiene,
Than people in the U.S. or the rest of the world are, about the state of oral hygiene of people in the U.K.
However, it is true that people in the U.S. are more likely to question authority than people in the U.K.
Than people in the U.S. or the rest of the world are, about the state of oral hygiene of people in the U.K.
However, it is true that people in the U.S. are more likely to question authority than people in the U.K.
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BVBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Ive met white belts with a god complex lol.
DUBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
as a dyslexic I suffer from a Dog complex but I am only a brown belt.
SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Honestly, I dislike general opinions (prejudice) stated as fact when it is based on a perceived stereotype that one might hold. I think the drive for success is needed, it inspires innovation and learning. Self-worth and self-esteem are important factors in one’s growth. Within mental health the lack of these can result in substance abuse. I bring this up because self-deprecation , in my opinion, is just an attempt to appear more modest, more likeable. There is an impact of this said self-deprecation that results in lower self-esteem. Constantly putting yourself down can become a habit and damage your mental health. I think as good humans we need to create this balance of high self-worth and self-esteem without developing the superiority complex. Practice kindness
Yeah, self deprecation done to extremes is negative too. As ever, it's the extremes that cause problems. A bit of self confidence isn't a bad thing. Though if I had to pick, I still prefer too much self deprecation than too much confidence.
Still, I like the directness I usually encounter in the US. One of the things that most annoys me about the UK is that people often won't say what they mean. Which tends to be related to the self-deprecation and politeness, some people in the UK (and no doubt elsewhere) seem to think it's rude to actually say what you want.
"Don't worry about it, we can do that instead."
"Cool, let's do that then."
[A few hours passes]
"I can't believe we did that, you know I wanted to do the other thing."
"WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO THEN." [screams]
Still, I like the directness I usually encounter in the US. One of the things that most annoys me about the UK is that people often won't say what they mean. Which tends to be related to the self-deprecation and politeness, some people in the UK (and no doubt elsewhere) seem to think it's rude to actually say what you want.
"Don't worry about it, we can do that instead."
"Cool, let's do that then."
[A few hours passes]
"I can't believe we did that, you know I wanted to do the other thing."
"WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO THEN." [screams]
MBlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
'Don't worry about it, we can do that instead.' 'Cool, let's do that then.' [A few hours passes] 'I can't believe we did that, you know I wanted to do the other thing.' 'WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO THEN.' [screams]
Are you sure you are not talking about most relationships in general! LOL I’ve had these exact conversations with my wife!
AKPurple beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
it is true that people in the U.S. are more likely to question authority than people in the U.K.
Or join a cult and not question it at all
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
We talk a lot of crap about aikido in bjj and how unrealistic it is but 90% of jiu jitsu and judo community could learn how to be a good co-operative uke from aikido guys. i get that we need to train with resistance to get good at something but a number of times I have to remind people the difference between drilling and sparring is nuts. Also those ukemis are so graceful and the wristlock game, whether realistic or not, is a great introduction to grip fighting. Aikido is getting more bad rep than it deserves inmho.
I've trained 3 martial arts for 20+ years, and honestly, I believe there is something to be learned from any art. As goofy as Aikido looks to us and we rag on it, I've learned some cool setups to throws and triangles from misdirection that Aikido uses.
Kenpo Karate may get a bad rep from some nowadays but I learned how to prevent grips and grip fighting from sparring etc. As I get older I am more and more open to learning anything from anyone, trying it out and if it works, awesome, and if it doesn't, whatever- throw it away :D
Kenpo Karate may get a bad rep from some nowadays but I learned how to prevent grips and grip fighting from sparring etc. As I get older I am more and more open to learning anything from anyone, trying it out and if it works, awesome, and if it doesn't, whatever- throw it away :D
JABlack beltVerified
2 year(s) ago
I have to say I would much rather be remembered for how I impacted the live of others than my ability to fight.. That said I do have a Satan complex
Her hear on the helping people part!
a little evil never hurt anyone (maybe their wrists or ankles... ;) )
a little evil never hurt anyone (maybe their wrists or ankles... ;) )
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Or join a cult and not question it at all
Really?
Questioning cults is a regular activity here in the U.S.
And we limit our national ridiculousness to Presidents,
rather than a Royal family, complete with,
absurd as it sounds, "Kings" and "Queens".
Then again, we also tend to visit the dentist as required.
I can understand how that last may sound cult-ish to many in the U.K.
Questioning cults is a regular activity here in the U.S.
And we limit our national ridiculousness to Presidents,
rather than a Royal family, complete with,
absurd as it sounds, "Kings" and "Queens".
Then again, we also tend to visit the dentist as required.
I can understand how that last may sound cult-ish to many in the U.K.
SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Really? Questioning cults is a regular activity here in the U.S. And we limit our national ridiculousness to Presidents, rather than a Royal family, complete with, absurd as it sounds, 'Kings' and 'Queens'. Then again, we also tend to visit the dentist as required. I can understand how that last may sound cult-ish to many in the U.K.
Ha: it's pretty hard to visit a dentist in the UK these days, unless you have enough money to go private. Severe shortage. ;)
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
2 year(s) ago
Ha: it's pretty hard to visit a dentist in the UK these days, unless you have enough money to go private. Severe shortage. ;)
That is a bummer.
Healthcare is in flux here, in the United States, too.
There are reports that general practitioners are leaving medicine in the U.S., due to lack of control over practice, and increasing regulations.
They certainly seem to have to see a lot of patients a day, to cover their financial nut, if they are doing straight general practice work.
Healthcare is in flux here, in the United States, too.
There are reports that general practitioners are leaving medicine in the U.S., due to lack of control over practice, and increasing regulations.
They certainly seem to have to see a lot of patients a day, to cover their financial nut, if they are doing straight general practice work.
