So basically if we don't do it the same way as you we're pricks. Is that a general feeling you have about all people or just BJJ people? Pretty sure I can guess the answer to that one......

I have no feelings at all about any of those belts. I don't do judo or LL and avoid no gi as much as possible. But 10P is still a BJJ gym; it says it right in the logo on the website. As far as the other disciplines go, I still say that the biggest consideration is ability and knowledge. An armbar is an armbar regardless of which art you are doing. Does that mean a judo black belt should be able to walk into a BJJ gym and get their black belt on day one just because they wreck everyone in the room? No. Does it mean they should have the opportunity to advance through the BJJ belts at an expedited pace? Yes.

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Not what I said. ..... What I said was that you are a prick if you are going to strip someone of their belt solely because they came from a different gym.

Fair enough. However, this is extremely common in the community. Most big name gyms will ask you to wear a different belt if you are a visiting black belt. Been told MANY times that when I've called ahead of time to see if I could drop in.

OK, so in light of your understanding of my initial question, perhaps it's better to ask how 10P ranks should be treated. While yes, I agree with you that they are a BJJ gym, they do have a different ranking system, and if I were to go to a 10P gym, I would not be recognized as a black belt because I'm not a 10P black belt. There's a good breakdown/discussion on the 10P system here: https://ringsidereport.ne[...]explained/ So, from my point of view, in the example I gave of a 10P purple belt showing up at my gym, and even though I didn't choose to go this route, I wouldn't be demoting him but rather asking him to put on an appropriate belt - just like if a Judo practitioner were to show up with his Judo belt. I decided that I wouldn't do that though, after educating myself a bit more on the 10th Planet system. :)

So do I understand it correctly, that the „2nd degree blackbelt can promote black belts rule“, doesn’t apply for 10 th planet BJJ black belts, as there aren’t any degrees on black belts in their system? It’s just an IBJJF rule, correct?

Really? I’ve dropped in to 150+ gyms and never once heard of this

Am I remembering wrong, that originally also for IBJJF 2 stripes were enough to promote someone to black belt, and only later, when they started pushing "provisional grades" and all the nonsense, it became 3 stripes?

For years I've been half-joking, half totally serious regarding nogi belts: what do these guys do with their belts when they're not getting ranked? How embarrassing would it be to have to teach a purple belt how to tie his own belt? It was all fun and games until this exact scenario actually happened to me... The other night, we had a "10th Planet purple belt" who presumably was leaving his gym and starting to train at our gym; I'm not exactly sure what the situation is, as I haven't had a conversation with this individual yet. He asked me what belt to wear in our gi class, as he admitted that he was a "nogi purple belt". I told him to just wear the belt he was awarded, as I know his instructor and trust his legitimacy within the 10th Planet "system". I shit you not, we had to have a couple of our white belts try and walk him through the belt-tying process. Dude looked like a white belt had taught him how to tie his belt, too: knot all cockeyed and tied right up below his nipples. At some point during class, he gave up entirely on trying to tie the belt and just left it on the mat until the end of class. Now, I can't blame the guy for not being a good sport: he's doing the thing and giving it a shot. Ultimately, it's not his choice what belt he was awarded. Furthermore, he moves on the mat like I would expect a purple belt to move, just with no concept of gripping and the slow, grinding nature of "gi BJJ". So, I'm a little unsure of what to do with this guy, long-term. For the first few years I was training, there was no such thing as "nogi belts", and the 10th Planet "system" hadn't been invented yet; everybody just trained both with the gi and without the gi on, so this is still the lens through which I view rankings. I don't award belts to my students who choose to just train nogi. I have a handful of students who train exclusively nogi and I have a conversation with these individuals, explaining to them that I don't give nogi belts. All they have to do is demonstrate proficiency in the gi and all this requires them to do is to train in the gi maybe ten percent of the time. If you never train in a gi, then wtf do you need a belt for? Anyway, I'm about 90% sure I'm just going to roll with it and let this guy experience the brand-new sensation of wearing ancient Japanese civilian attire through the eyes of a beginner, while wearing a purple belt. He'll figure it out along the way, I suppose. But what would y'all do? I'm curious what other BB's who rank their students would do in this situation.

It’s not a huge deal though.

Agreed. He just did his first spider guard last night lmao.

From what I gather, each 10p bb promotion has to be approved by Eddie Bravo. The 2nd degree "rule" isn't exclusively an IBJJF rule as that's been covered in multiple threads on here already.

I don't think this is the case. 2nd degree 10th Planet black belts can promote to black. Eddie will of course know about the promotions at some point but his approval isn't required beforehand.