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Fake Belt Masterthread
5 year(s) ago • 9397 views • 165 replies
JUBlack beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
Now I want some maple syrup...
HBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Go to the Maine 2027 camp and i gotchu
ALBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
So we had a recent request for verification by Lonnie Phillips III. Claimed he got his black belt under Joe Moreira in 2001, but had a certificate photo that was called out by Mike Desrosier aka "Honey Badger" for looking doctored. Specifically with white areas on the certificate around the name, rank, and date.
I posted that I had reached out to Joe Moreira for verification. Upon hearing that, Lonnie apparently deleted the entire thread. Joe replied to me that he does not remember him.
BELT CHECK: Failed!!
I posted that I had reached out to Joe Moreira for verification. Upon hearing that, Lonnie apparently deleted the entire thread. Joe replied to me that he does not remember him.
BELT CHECK: Failed!!
JUBlack beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
So we had a recent request for verification by Lonnie Phillips III. Claimed he got his black belt under Joe Moreira in 2001, but had a certificate photo that was called out by Mike Desrosier aka "Honey Badger" for looking doctored. Specifically with white areas on the certificate around the name, rank, and date. I posted that I had reached out to Joe Moreira for verification. Upon hearing that, Lonnie apparently deleted the entire thread. Joe replied to me that he does not remember him. BELT CHECK: Failed!!
Thank you for your follow through on this Adam!
I love that we could go through that as a community without any personal attacks or disrespectful actions.
I love that we could go through that as a community without any personal attacks or disrespectful actions.
ALBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Thank you for your follow through on this Adam! I love that we could go through that as a community without any personal attacks or disrespectful actions.
I agree!
It's great to see both the respect, and that when we follow the process, the process works - whether for affirmation or denial.
It's great to see both the respect, and that when we follow the process, the process works - whether for affirmation or denial.
HBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Yea it was strange, as I'm sure he's trained as all the photos looked old and legit, things lined up but the original pic he posted in all the areas where his information would be, had white under it you could see. When i pointed it out he deleted it and told me that his original certificate had water damage, so it was a "copy" of his original. Which made zero sense to me as if he photocopied it, it would still look funky. Also, why would it look like there was a white bar under his name, date, and rank?
COULD be he just didn't want to wait anymore and just gave up......... OR knew something was weird and bailed, i have no idea.
COULD be he just didn't want to wait anymore and just gave up......... OR knew something was weird and bailed, i have no idea.
BZBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Good job ! Every time a fraud is exposed, the purpose of this site is legitimate 👍
HBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Again he could have been legit BUT………
ALBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
My biggest question now is if he IS legit, and didn’t want to wait anymore… WHY delete the entire thread?
He also had posted photos of him training with Marco Ruas, but had no photos to show of him ever WITH Joe Moreira. I think that’s odd.
So while he might be legit, there’s so far zero evidence to prove it except a suspicious looking certificate, and a promoting teacher that doesn’t remember him at all…
I can’t help but wonder if he took a photo of Marco Ruas’ certificate (Joe DID promote him with the old style certificate that Lonnie showed) and edited that with his own name. That’s purely speculation, not an accusation, but this is the exact type of case this site is designed to be used for.
He also had posted photos of him training with Marco Ruas, but had no photos to show of him ever WITH Joe Moreira. I think that’s odd.
So while he might be legit, there’s so far zero evidence to prove it except a suspicious looking certificate, and a promoting teacher that doesn’t remember him at all…
I can’t help but wonder if he took a photo of Marco Ruas’ certificate (Joe DID promote him with the old style certificate that Lonnie showed) and edited that with his own name. That’s purely speculation, not an accusation, but this is the exact type of case this site is designed to be used for.
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
I have a 10P 1st degree certificate, but Lauri forgot to sign it. Does this mean I'm a fake 1st degree? :D Also, I haven't taped a stripe on my belt because I don't use the gi very often and I forget every time.
IBlack beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
My biggest question now is if he IS legit, and didn’t want to wait anymore… WHY delete the entire thread?
Maybe he deleted his account and GDPR regulations require Beltchecker to delete all associated information including posts? That's a guess.
There's video of him doing competitions as a black belt on YouTube. And some forum discussions about him a long time ago. Would be really surprising if he faked it for decades.
There's video of him doing competitions as a black belt on YouTube. And some forum discussions about him a long time ago. Would be really surprising if he faked it for decades.
MGPurple beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
My biggest question now is if he IS legit, and didn’t want to wait anymore… WHY delete the entire thread? He also had posted photos of him training with Marco Ruas, but had no photos to show of him ever WITH Joe Moreira. I think that’s odd. So while he might be legit, there’s so far zero evidence to prove it except a suspicious looking certificate, and a promoting teacher that doesn’t remember him at all… I can’t help but wonder if he took a photo of Marco Ruas’ certificate (Joe DID promote him with the old style certificate that Lonnie showed) and edited that with his own name. That’s purely speculation, not an accusation, but this is the exact type of case this site is designed to be used for.
It is easy to do.
JBlack beltVerified
1 month(s) ago
I messaged Lonnie and asked why he deleted the thread. He claimed Joe never responded, felt the thread was going nowhere and that he was going to delete his profile too. I told him if his black belt was legit, then his peers who were present could speak up for him. The BJJ community isn't that big.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
1 month(s) ago
Maybe he deleted his account and GDPR regulations require Beltchecker to delete all associated information including posts? That's a guess.
Yeah deleting an account will delete everything linked to it
