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IBJJF bans Globetrotters
6 year(s) ago • 20205 views • 124 replies
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I guess this here would be one of the best places to discuss. Also -conspiracy time- Beltchecker was the straw that broke the camel's back. You heard it here first.
https://www.bjjglobetrott[...]-the-ibjjf
https://www.bjjglobetrott[...]-the-ibjjf
ANBrown beltVerified
BWBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Also -conspiracy time- Beltchecker was the straw that broke the camel's back. You heard it here first. https://www.bjjglobetrott[...]-the-ibjjf
Pretty easy to get on board with that theory.
I'd say beltchecker showed the ifbjj how many academies and black belts weren't paying them for registration.
I'd say beltchecker showed the ifbjj how many academies and black belts weren't paying them for registration.
SMBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
IBJJF is little more than an anachronistic and transparently backwards money-making pyramid scheme at this point.
I'd love to see BJJ Globetrotters tournaments, and would be willing to put some time, energy, and participation into them (and maybe a little money, if I ever have any).
I'd love to see BJJ Globetrotters tournaments, and would be willing to put some time, energy, and participation into them (and maybe a little money, if I ever have any).
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'd say beltchecker showed the ifbjj how many academies and black belts weren't paying them for registration.
I'm pretty sure they already have that info in their databases, where they see who has approved whose registration. (Beltchecker doesn't really show you that, or any IBJJF related info.)
But perhaps they are actually concerned that Beltchecker will be a serious alternative to their own rank verification system, and decided to try to do something...
With the IBJJF, is all about the $$$ ofc. They want more black belts getting certified ($400) and academies getting registered in order to have their student registered for the IBJJF comps.
Really sucks for athletes who have upcoming IBJJF comps planned & have been under Globetrotters.
But perhaps they are actually concerned that Beltchecker will be a serious alternative to their own rank verification system, and decided to try to do something...
With the IBJJF, is all about the $$$ ofc. They want more black belts getting certified ($400) and academies getting registered in order to have their student registered for the IBJJF comps.
Really sucks for athletes who have upcoming IBJJF comps planned & have been under Globetrotters.
SYBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I was going to ask why now? After all Globetrotters have been signing off IBJJF membership requests for several years now. The timing of this alongside the success of Beltchecker is very suspicious.
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
The link/site seems to be down still, so here's the IBJJF email to Christian he posted.
NTBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I was going to ask why now? After all Globetrotters have been signing off IBJJF membership requests for several years now. The timing of this alongside the success of Beltchecker is very suspicious.
My guess would be that the globetrotters have always been a thorn in the eye of the IBJJF, being nonprofit and all, and since the recent success of beltchecker.com and the fact that it would probably attract more people to globetrotters, they had to take action to ensure future money grabbing activities...
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Zero fucks given here. I give it 2-3 years before IBJJF ceases to be the largest tournament organiser.
LABlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
IBJJF can be such a "C" word.
(And by that I mean cult
(And by that I mean cult
JJBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I am just a white belt but they are still allowing me to register for an upcoming tournament under my current membership though I haven't paid anything yet.
But going through all the stuff I could edit you can still select BJJ Globetrotters but when you go to professor it says "No professor able to graduate your belt registered in your academy, ask for the responsible professor to contact us by the e-mail [email protected]" and if I removed Christians name in the template I couldn't get his name back... just an empty field which I am pretty sure that means no new memberships are possible. Not sure how they would handle people who still have time left on their current memberships though. It seems like they are letting people finish out their current memberships until they expire.
Also I did a tournament with them once and one of my opponent's didn't show up and the other got DQ'd for not making weight...and they didn't even give me a refund or voucher for another tournament. Forced me to take a medal and go home after wasting my time and money without a match or a voucher for another tournament....
But going through all the stuff I could edit you can still select BJJ Globetrotters but when you go to professor it says "No professor able to graduate your belt registered in your academy, ask for the responsible professor to contact us by the e-mail [email protected]" and if I removed Christians name in the template I couldn't get his name back... just an empty field which I am pretty sure that means no new memberships are possible. Not sure how they would handle people who still have time left on their current memberships though. It seems like they are letting people finish out their current memberships until they expire.
Also I did a tournament with them once and one of my opponent's didn't show up and the other got DQ'd for not making weight...and they didn't even give me a refund or voucher for another tournament. Forced me to take a medal and go home after wasting my time and money without a match or a voucher for another tournament....
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CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Stopped going to IBJJF comps in 2015, when I saw too many fckups in the Euros. Since then it has just shown itself as a corrupt company. F them. I think this will be good news for Globetrotters. This news sparked me to register for membership. For me and for my gym. Sadly the website isn't working right now. Must be a bit crowded. :D
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Must be a bit crowded.
Yes, this was confirmed by Christian. News was shared in websites and GT website is down due to traffic.
-conspiracy time- : IBJJF DDOSed that :D
-conspiracy time- : IBJJF DDOSed that :D
DBBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'm not sure how much it has to do with belt checker so much as the fact that anyone from any club under any black belt (or no black belt) can join Globetrotters. While Christian does vet ranks with instructors, many orgs require that each school hold a seminar every X time period with the head instructor or send all their instructors to the camp every Y time period.
I don't think Globetrotters is bad for this, to the contrary, but I think the lack of requirements around hosting or attending camps likely means they do have some case in terms of relationship as they claim, and that's more likely why they've pulled Globetrotters - it's just too damn open and welcoming of an affiliation.
I don't think Globetrotters is bad for this, to the contrary, but I think the lack of requirements around hosting or attending camps likely means they do have some case in terms of relationship as they claim, and that's more likely why they've pulled Globetrotters - it's just too damn open and welcoming of an affiliation.
MEPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Hmmm... UWW is seriously considering dropping Greco-Roman as their second Olympic grappling sport and inserting Grappling(read no-gi with their rule set) in its place.
When that happens, IBJJF will become a footnote in BJJ history. As a for profit they can never vie with UWW for recognition as an international governing body... so they will at best be a for profit side show.
When that happens, IBJJF will become a footnote in BJJ history. As a for profit they can never vie with UWW for recognition as an international governing body... so they will at best be a for profit side show.
BMBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Anybody know if this affects bjj Globetrotters USA? From what I understand this is a separate affiliation.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Hmmm... UWW is seriously considering dropping Greco-Roman as their second Olympic grappling sport.
I don't see this happening in 20 years. Grappling took a backseat in UWW compared to FILA just because of that - wrestling, the CLASSICAL wrestling was in danger of being left out from the Olympics.
What are your sources that they are ACTUALLY considering that?
(I personally would be all for it - Greco as a sport is boring AF though it serves as maybe even a better base for MMA than freestyle)
What are your sources that they are ACTUALLY considering that?
(I personally would be all for it - Greco as a sport is boring AF though it serves as maybe even a better base for MMA than freestyle)
MEPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I don't see this happening in 20 years. Grappling took a backseat in UWW compared to FILA just because of that - wrestling, the CLASSICAL wrestling was in danger of being left out from the Olympics. What are your sources that they are ACTUALLY considering that? (I personally would be all for it - Greco as a sport is boring AF though it serves as maybe even a better base for MMA than freestyle)
It was in the minutes of the last UWW board meeting. GR has no women's division which is cause for continued concern for wrestling losing its place. Also they say they are getting more views through their various channels of grappling than GR. Which is the other ongoing concern.
We'll see. Personally I would welcome the change.
We'll see. Personally I would welcome the change.
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Christian, you put on seminars and do camps.
Regular BJJ globetrotters competitions would be an interesting response.
There are plenty of BJJ globetrotters who could run tournaments.
Some of them already do.
Then you have a complete eco-system.
Regular BJJ globetrotters competitions would be an interesting response.
There are plenty of BJJ globetrotters who could run tournaments.
Some of them already do.
Then you have a complete eco-system.
HBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Stopped going to IBJJF comps in 2015, when I saw too many fckups in the Euros. Since then it has just shown itself as a corrupt company. F them. I think this will be good news for Globetrotters. This news sparked me to register for membership. For me and for my gym. Sadly the website isn't working right now. Must be a bit crowded. :D
Ditto - my highlight was the bullpen for Rio Fall Open in 2015 being outside in the boiling hot sun (not good for a pale Gringo). I've done 1 IBJJF tournament since then...
WJBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Its a shame the IBJJF have taken this stance.
The model that BJJ Globetrotters adopts is not dis-similar to many of the larger organisations where the head instructor has little or no daily contact with the students they sign for. I hope this situation gets resolved so that the competitors that rely on this method can continue unaffected.
The model that BJJ Globetrotters adopts is not dis-similar to many of the larger organisations where the head instructor has little or no daily contact with the students they sign for. I hope this situation gets resolved so that the competitors that rely on this method can continue unaffected.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Anybody know if this affects bjj Globetrotters USA? From what I understand this is a separate affiliation.
Same thing.
SCBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I can honestly say, I KNEW that was going to happen sooner than later.. anything that will threaten the integrity of their system they always try to shut down.
So your tell everyone that "Doesnt have a local black belt" in their gym that they basically cant register for IBJJF .. and this one organization ACTUALLY has it organized to where its verified by "ACTUAL" IBJJF black belts.... WHO the does that??
So your tell everyone that "Doesnt have a local black belt" in their gym that they basically cant register for IBJJF .. and this one organization ACTUALLY has it organized to where its verified by "ACTUAL" IBJJF black belts.... WHO the does that??
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I can honestly say, I KNEW that was going to happen sooner than later.. anything that will threaten the integrity of their system they always try to shut down.
The lion has come out of the cave
KBBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Yeah, this is a pretty low move, but exactly what we'd all expect from them. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, but definitely not surprised it happened now. I wonder if the membership card pushed it over the edge? Or the certificate prototype?
JDBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Well one thing is certain - belt checker and Bjj globetrotters just got all the attention of the community. Servers are overwhelmed :)
It's in human nature to rebel and IBJJF is not the most loved organisation out there :)
It's in human nature to rebel and IBJJF is not the most loved organisation out there :)
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Christian, you put on seminars and do camps. Regular BJJ globetrotters competitions would be an interesting response. There are plenty of BJJ globetrotters who could run tournaments. Some of them already do. Then you have a complete eco-system.
In my opinion, Grappling Industries is already doing a great job and will overtake IBJJF within 2-3 years for # of tournaments. They are holding a worlds with over 2,000 participants this year and probably a Euros later in the year. I'd rather Globetrotters support them than reinvent the wheel.
CGBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'm not organizing tournaments anytime soon, just to make that clear :)
ARBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'm surprised those nazis took so long.
TPPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
IBJJF: We are here to protect the integrity of the art
Known RoidMonkeys with needle in hand: *stares*
IBJJF: No not like that, you're good.
What a joke. They are there to protect their financial interests and they see all these BBs that aren't paying them.
Known RoidMonkeys with needle in hand: *stares*
IBJJF: No not like that, you're good.
What a joke. They are there to protect their financial interests and they see all these BBs that aren't paying them.
