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Dave Cork
Dave Cork
Black beltVerified235 forum posts2250/1000
6 year(s) ago
Carlos/Helio Gracie * Rigan Machado * John Will * Dave Cork

My list of coaches:
Harvey Skinner
Errol Watson
Travis Browne
Andrew Higgins

We all used to train between Cambridge and Hamilton. Spread the knowledge team.
Don Geddis
Don Geddis
Black belt 4th degreeVerified24 forum posts3185/1000
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie Sr. > Helio Gracie > Carlos Gracie Jr. > Ralph Gracie > Don Geddis (me)

(There might be a little dispute on the lineage between Carlos Sr. and Carlos Jr. A lot of people suggest Helio for the bridge, but probably Rickson is in there somewhere too, and perhaps Rolls. For that matter, surely Carlos Sr. taught his own son some stuff directly.)
David Klier
David Klier
Blue beltVerified63 forum posts640/200
6 year(s) ago
judo: kano->miss fakuda->jana d->joe killion/ross g-> me

bjj: kano-> maeda -> luis fanca ->oswaldo fadda -> monir salomao -> ulio cesar pereira -> joao tavares -> diego da costa -> me
Vitor Sousa
Vitor Sousa
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified48 forum posts20540/1000
6 year(s) ago
Curious to see what everyone's lineage looks like. Also feel free to post your opinions on the importance or lack there of, of bjj lineage. How many steps from the source are you?! I am a blue belt under Allan Goes and my lineage is: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Carlson Gracie > Allan Goes > Me
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Carlson Gracie > Banni Cavalcanti > Júlio Pudim > Sandro Bala > Vitor Sousa
Jay Petersen
Jay Petersen
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified3 forum posts2790/1000
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Francisco Mansur > Joe Moreira > Roy Harris > Kevin Jones.... Boom
Slideyfoot [jun]
Slideyfoot [jun]
Black belt 1st degreeVerified1901 forum posts3830/1000
6 year(s) ago
Interested in how dis/similar your game/knowledge is that to your direct Professor. Mine is completely different due to being isolated, size, weight, age, strength differences. Variation and adaptation based on what I recognize my strengths and weaknesses are have largely shaped my game - some by choice and other from evidence (of getting smashed by stronger, heavier partners). What I learn from my Professor are mostly 60% concepts, 20% techniques and 20% how he teaches these.
Yeah, it is interesting to see if lineage does have an impact on somebody's game. Certainly does on mine. Despite Roger being something like double my weight and about a foot taller, I still have a slow, heavy pressure game, so more of a 'big guy' approach. Which I'm definitely not, at 5'7 and about 67kg. ;)

Kev, by contrast, is almost exactly the same size as me. Though I guess I did learn from Roger first, as I started at the Roger Gracie Academy in 2006. That's where Kev and I met, which is why I went to his school once I moved out of London, 2009, and have stuck with Kev ever since (despite me moving across the country almost 10 years ago now, he still comes down for seminars).
Gregory Cinelli
Gregory Cinelli
Black beltVerified4 forum posts2275/1000
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda> Carlos Gracie> Helio Gracie, Rickson Gracie> Marcelo Behring> Waldomiro Perez> Roberto Godoi> Marco Barbosa> Eduardo Nascimento> Me
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Luis Alburez
Luis Alburez
Black beltVerified3 forum posts1215/1000
6 year(s) ago
Our Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu lineage:
Mitsuyo Maeda → Carlos Gracie, Sr. → Carlson Gracie, Sr. → André Pederneiras → John Lewis → Enson Inoue → Mike Martelle— Luis Ciraiz— Me
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Oisin McCabe
Oisin McCabe
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified49 forum posts1575/1000
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo Maeda → Carlos Gracie Sr → Carlson Gracie → Rodrigo Medeiros → Andrew Ryan → me

Timothy Holman
Timothy Holman
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified18 forum posts3015/1000
6 year(s) ago
Mitsuyo "Count Koma" Maeda> Carlos Gracie Sr.>Carlson Gracie Sr.> Renato Tavares>Mike Budnik>Me
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Ross Weeding
Ross Weeding
Black belt 1st degreeVerified17 forum posts2255/1000
6 year(s) ago
Carlos Gracie Jr > Peter de Been > Me.

Obviously this list could go back further, but these are what applies to me in this period.
Jacopo Madaro
Jacopo Madaro
Black belt 1st degreeVerified77 forum posts3470/1000
6 year(s) ago
Lineage: Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie Sr. > Carlos Gracie Junior > Carlos Lemos Jr > Federico Tisi > me
Lars Söderström
Lars Söderström
Brown beltVerified71 forum posts2375/700
6 year(s) ago
Frankly got no idea, The two main black belts I have trained under is Bruno Matias and David Dotzsky here in Sweden. I have never researched their linage.
I have now googled and this is the result:

Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Bruno Matias

Bruno Mathias trained me 2 times a week at lunch class and awarded me 2 stripes on my blue belt, I trained with him from 2017-2019. Now the dojo we used for lunch classes are closed and Bruno has classes to far away for me to get to at lunch.

Mitsuyo Maeda > Carlos Gracie > Helio Gracie > Rolls Gracie > Romero Cavalcanti > Ricardo Vieira > Alan Finfou > David Dotzsky

David has trained me every week att my home club SKIFT and been my professor since white belt. It was David who promoted me to blue and purple belt.
Jeffrey Clorley
Jeffrey Clorley
Brown beltVerified3 forum posts1415/700
6 year(s) ago
Took some doing to figure this out because my lineage changed at one point in time when my instructor switched affiliations.

Currently:
Carlos Gracie -> Carlson Gracie -> Carlson Gracie Jr. -> Rafa Santos -> Michael Rooney -> Me (Brown Belt)

We were previously affiliated with Roy Harris but switched after our coach got his black belt. Although I spent close to two years training prior to working with Mike, I've gotten all my promotions and about 98% of my grappling from him.
Drew Brunning
Drew Brunning
Black beltVerified235 forum posts3190/1000
6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
Jeffrey Clorley
Jeffrey Clorley
Brown beltVerified3 forum posts1415/700
6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
My instructor went to 1st degree with Roy Harris but switched affiliations and got his 2nd degree from Rafa Santos. If we just switched affiliations, that'd be one thing but he has been promoted by Rafa to 2nd degree and we've been in his network for several years so we use that lineage.
Realistically, who gives a shit?
Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts7195/1000
6 year(s) ago
I was under the impression that lineages don't change when you switch affiliations, that they're based solely on who promoted whom to black belt. Where do you guys fall on that?
I don't think there are any rules on it as such and we have discussed this before on here, but i'm with you I think it's only relevant to who you got your black belt from.

I think people are less and less concerned about lineage nowadays in anycase.
Drew Brunning
Drew Brunning
Black beltVerified235 forum posts3190/1000
6 year(s) ago
I don't think there are any rules on it as such and we have discussed this before on here, but i'm with you I think it's only relevant to who you got your black belt from. I think people are less and less concerned about lineage nowadays in anycase.
I'm glad that folks are less concerned. I don't think a lineage can tell you much about someone and I think their full history, the kind we document on our profiles here, is more indicative of what you can expect their grappling philosophy to look like.
Jacopo Madaro
Jacopo Madaro
Black belt 1st degreeVerified77 forum posts3470/1000
6 year(s) ago
You’re a Fake BLACK BELT.
You disrespect the rules.
You disrespect all the people who live the bjjlifestyle.
You’re a clown.
Please all the guys that knows me to vote FAKE to this guy.
You don’t know how to tie your belt.
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Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts7195/1000
6 year(s) ago
You’re a Fake BLACK BELT. You disrespect the rules. You disrespect all the people who live the bjjlifestyle. You’re a clown. Please all the guys that knows me to vote FAKE to this guy. You don’t know how to tie your belt.
Who?
Wayne Johnson
Wayne Johnson
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified231 forum posts7195/1000
6 year(s) ago
The guy with the black gi up on this post.
Oh right. . . yeah it is odd he is wearing a black belt but his profile states he is a brown belt although I'm gonna need a bit more on the back story before i start dishing out downvotes. Even you haven't down voted him

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