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Whats your game?
6 year(s) ago • 4130 views • 52 replies
NCBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
What is your game or what are you trying to develop and why? I have always experimented during my years and not worried too much about getting "smashed". Being a smaller person I always had to be a little creative especially when most outweighed me anywhere from 30 to 90 lbs. As a purple belt I played alot with x guard. Lately I ve been doing alot of berimbolo and crab rides only because it allows me to transition to positions such as back or side most efficiently without dealing with the weight difference.
So lets hear it???
So lets hear it???
ADPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Interestingly enough, before the lockdown that I was mostly working on trying make my game more fluid, and trying to take away any time lost on decision making. I wanted to refocus on sharpening on what i already knew. Before that, I was caught by the leglock bug, and I got stuck in it for a while. I feel like It got me much more well rounded.
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NCBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Interestingly enough, before the lockdown that I was mostly working on trying make my game more fluid, and trying to take away any time lost on decision making. I wanted to refocus on sharper on what i already know. Before that I was caught by the leglock bug, and I got stuck in it for a while. I feel like It got me much more well rounded.
It certainly didn't hurt to include leglocks prior. With all the influences now, it'ts important to have an understanding of proper application and escapes.
ASBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I have flexible hips, so guard retention is a big part of my game. I like to dominate grips and play spider guard, typically going to omoplatas and sweeps. My guard passing game is mainly trying to get to half guard and then passing from there, maintaining good pressure. I like to pass the far side lapel to my head control hand if possible to set up the brabo choke. If I can get back control, I have a lot of weapons to submit that I can cycle through.
OHBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
As a light guy, i try to find what it is effective quickly and easily to takedown, Sweep and finalise bigger and stronger guys.
When it's not possible (when the guy know techniques too...size matter) i chose what put me in the safest spot against them (on top keeping the position).
Low single leg ans armdrag.
Halfguard sweep(nogueira, shaolin, maia, leites), butterfly sweep(garcia, shaolin).
Turtle guard and sweep(eduardo telles).
Marcelotine(high elbow), armcrush, reverse kimura, RNC.
But i stay Open minded and even sometime learn techniques only to be able to defend it.
When it's not possible (when the guy know techniques too...size matter) i chose what put me in the safest spot against them (on top keeping the position).
Low single leg ans armdrag.
Halfguard sweep(nogueira, shaolin, maia, leites), butterfly sweep(garcia, shaolin).
Turtle guard and sweep(eduardo telles).
Marcelotine(high elbow), armcrush, reverse kimura, RNC.
But i stay Open minded and even sometime learn techniques only to be able to defend it.
JGBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
After my knee surgery I started to play half guard with knee shield and know I feel myself really confortable there, actually I never scored a single point in competition with a technique that didn't start in half guard.
Before the lockdown I started to play with lapels and half butterfly because after being promoted to purple is more complicated to win the fight for the underhook.
Before the lockdown I started to play with lapels and half butterfly because after being promoted to purple is more complicated to win the fight for the underhook.
MGPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
After my knee surgery I started to play half guard with knee shield and know I feel myself really confortable there, actually I never scored a single point in competition with a technique that didn't start in half guard. Before the lockdown I started to play with lapels and half butterfly because after being promoted to purple is more complicated to win the fight for the underhook.
Same. After two knee surgeries it’s half guard for me. Plus since I have drop foot only being able to flex one foot makes full guard difficult.
CSBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
As a 'more mature; (in years perhaps not in mind) practitioner it's all about slowing things down and maintaining control. on the bottom it's half-guard in all its wonderful variations - great for defending and great for attacking. Guard passing - all pressure passes, especially over-under and pressure passing from top half-guard. from side-control or other top attacking positions it's all about pressure, pressure and more pressure. Favourie submissions Kimura and armbars from anywhere, cross collar choke from mount
for the last year I have been working to add a variety of butterfly sweeps to my game, and it's now a potent weapon in my arsenal
for the last year I have been working to add a variety of butterfly sweeps to my game, and it's now a potent weapon in my arsenal
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
My game still has some ill influences from basically my first 4 or so jiu-jitsu years - e.g
1) I really didn't know how to develop open guard and wasn't physically best suited for that (mind you it was around the time where BJJ pedagogy still sucked and the only info you got was an array of sweeps from different guards). Being one of the smaller guys in the room I developed comfortable survivability in sidemount bottom and therefore didn't develop much offensive and defensive open guard. Against anyone good that SUCKS.
2) Always had pretty good talent for top control and wrestling-based stuff meaning I didn't really prefer to attack and go for full backmount attacks and that SUCKS.
1) I really didn't know how to develop open guard and wasn't physically best suited for that (mind you it was around the time where BJJ pedagogy still sucked and the only info you got was an array of sweeps from different guards). Being one of the smaller guys in the room I developed comfortable survivability in sidemount bottom and therefore didn't develop much offensive and defensive open guard. Against anyone good that SUCKS.
2) Always had pretty good talent for top control and wrestling-based stuff meaning I didn't really prefer to attack and go for full backmount attacks and that SUCKS.
DCBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Depends if I like you...
If I like you :
Some sort of sacrifice throw - under/over and standing passes - look for back control and a tidy finish. Probably have a play with SLX, Xguard, crusafix and add closed guard to see what I can make happen. (what I'm trying to improve)
If your a dick:
Hip throws (I'm especially fond of ones where I land on you) - pressure passes - some knee ride circuits - half guard and lockdown - hooks/butterfly with shoulder control probably - kesagatame - anything else awful I can think of at the time. (the stuff I know I can make work while making my opponent regret life decisions)
But hey, if your not a dick you should be ok...
If I like you :
Some sort of sacrifice throw - under/over and standing passes - look for back control and a tidy finish. Probably have a play with SLX, Xguard, crusafix and add closed guard to see what I can make happen. (what I'm trying to improve)
If your a dick:
Hip throws (I'm especially fond of ones where I land on you) - pressure passes - some knee ride circuits - half guard and lockdown - hooks/butterfly with shoulder control probably - kesagatame - anything else awful I can think of at the time. (the stuff I know I can make work while making my opponent regret life decisions)
But hey, if your not a dick you should be ok...
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
If your a dick: Hip throws (I'm especially fond of ones where I land on you) - pressure passes - some knee ride circuits - half guard and lockdown - hooks/butterfly with shoulder control probably - kesagatame - anything else awful I can think of at the time. (the stuff I know I can make work while making my opponent regret life decisions) But hey, if your not a dick you should be ok...
You're the tr00 embodiment of "Purple belt gym enforcer" :D
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I always try to experiment with new stuff, but looking at my matches beginning from white belt (something I reviewed because of setting up the Beltchecker profile) my competition game, or game when I face enough of a challenge anyway, has stayed shockingly similar.
Top preference (I'm middleweight), I think this is because of the gym I train at. Starting to change though, the better the level the harder these motherfucking guards are to pass...
Big emphasis on grip fighting. Denying the opponent his grips.
Looking to get a single leg from standing and if I find out the opponent is more likely to take me down, pull SLX. (If that fails it ends up a half butterfly guard, which is ok too.)
Takedown/guard pull & SLX/X-guard sweep → knee slice pass → forcing a turn & attacking the kimura control or back. (I'm not good with finishing the kimura but I like the control. Been transitioning to Tarikoplata a lot from there lately.) Securing the positions before attacking for a sub (in comps) so I rarely finish anyone before time runs out if they're any good.
If things go south, scramble to deep half & sweep from there. My deep half game is very simple but seems to work very well anyway.
I have basically zero subs from bottom guard if the opponent is my level or higher, something I need to work on.
Top preference (I'm middleweight), I think this is because of the gym I train at. Starting to change though, the better the level the harder these motherfucking guards are to pass...
Big emphasis on grip fighting. Denying the opponent his grips.
Looking to get a single leg from standing and if I find out the opponent is more likely to take me down, pull SLX. (If that fails it ends up a half butterfly guard, which is ok too.)
Takedown/guard pull & SLX/X-guard sweep → knee slice pass → forcing a turn & attacking the kimura control or back. (I'm not good with finishing the kimura but I like the control. Been transitioning to Tarikoplata a lot from there lately.) Securing the positions before attacking for a sub (in comps) so I rarely finish anyone before time runs out if they're any good.
If things go south, scramble to deep half & sweep from there. My deep half game is very simple but seems to work very well anyway.
I have basically zero subs from bottom guard if the opponent is my level or higher, something I need to work on.
RDBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I'd say my game is old school guard mostly. I do all the other guards except for the 50/50 unless I'm pushed into the position.
With that said my side control is probably the thing I do best but sometimes my back hurts and I switch to something else.
Usually sweep or sub from guard to side control and work from there. I am big on attacking the neck at all times which lead to other things. (ABC's of Jiu Jitsu: Always Be Choking)
Single leg is my go to takedown but I can hit kouchi gari and tani otoshi pretty regularly. ( I have to be very careful on my feet these days)
Mount, back, knee on belly, half guard I do them all. I'd say my favourite sub is an armbar from anywhere but I go for chokes so much that I probably hit that more than anything.
I have sequences that I go through when rolling unless put into bail out positions. Then I try to get back into familiar waters to engage my sequences.
With that said my side control is probably the thing I do best but sometimes my back hurts and I switch to something else.
Usually sweep or sub from guard to side control and work from there. I am big on attacking the neck at all times which lead to other things. (ABC's of Jiu Jitsu: Always Be Choking)
Single leg is my go to takedown but I can hit kouchi gari and tani otoshi pretty regularly. ( I have to be very careful on my feet these days)
Mount, back, knee on belly, half guard I do them all. I'd say my favourite sub is an armbar from anywhere but I go for chokes so much that I probably hit that more than anything.
I have sequences that I go through when rolling unless put into bail out positions. Then I try to get back into familiar waters to engage my sequences.
DCBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Depends if I like you... If I like you : Some sort of sacrifice throw - under/over and standing passes - look for back control and a tidy finish. Probably have a play with SLX, Xguard, crusafix and add closed guard to see what I can make happen. (what I'm trying to improve) If your a dick: Hip throws (I'm especially fond of ones where I land on you) - pressure passes - some knee ride circuits - half guard and lockdown - hooks/butterfly with shoulder control probably - kesagatame - anything else awful I can think of at the time. (the stuff I know I can make work while making my opponent regret life decisions) But hey, if your not a dick you should be ok...
If I see a Choke I will more than likely bail on whatever other submission I have set up / half finished to choke the life from your soul. Like the top guys always say, "it doesn't matter how big, small, well trained, strong or high on meth they are the Choke will always make them sleep".
People can deny a joint lock and carry on fighting with a broken one (freak/meth). If someone tries to deny a choke, even one that is applied badly, they will go to sleep within 20 seconds.
People can deny a joint lock and carry on fighting with a broken one (freak/meth). If someone tries to deny a choke, even one that is applied badly, they will go to sleep within 20 seconds.
ALBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I've always been a heavy and stocky guy with very short legs relative to my torso length and height, so playing closed guard has always been problematic for me while the top game is a natural. Over-under, smash, and pressure passes are my forte, with slow and tight movements and heavy pressure from all top positions.
As I have aged (now 50) and endured numerous injuries and surgeries, the movement game now eludes me. I have lost significant mobility in my hips, and have rapidly deteriorating arthritis and massive bone spurs in both kness (I knee full replacements for both). My once cherished butterfly guard game is now excruciating on ME just to take the position. I also once had a "fair" leg lock game; I now avoid anything that involves risk to my knees. Most of my takedowns are gone now that I cannot effectively change levels, lunge, or any of that.
I am finding more and more that half-guard is my new go-to when on bottom, and although I have a decent repertoire of effective side control attacks, lately I find I am replacing them far more often with submissions from either mount or north-south.
As I have aged (now 50) and endured numerous injuries and surgeries, the movement game now eludes me. I have lost significant mobility in my hips, and have rapidly deteriorating arthritis and massive bone spurs in both kness (I knee full replacements for both). My once cherished butterfly guard game is now excruciating on ME just to take the position. I also once had a "fair" leg lock game; I now avoid anything that involves risk to my knees. Most of my takedowns are gone now that I cannot effectively change levels, lunge, or any of that.
I am finding more and more that half-guard is my new go-to when on bottom, and although I have a decent repertoire of effective side control attacks, lately I find I am replacing them far more often with submissions from either mount or north-south.
DGBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I like half guard. Partly because you get to deep half from everywhere and because I cant explode / am not flexible enough to play more open style. Since I have arthritis in my right hip and a torn meniscus in my right knee I tend to try and play top. Preferably giving my left leg
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I try to cause sense of misery and claustrophobia in every position. Continually driving weight and pressure. This is regardless if I like you or not.
However, I stick to the yuki nakai heuristic. If you go 8, I will go 8.5. Never looking for overkill (unless the situation calls for it). This means I can roll with anyone without being a jackass.
Oh and I went deep into the leglock abyss and came out the other side. Now they are fully integrated and just another tool in the box.
However, I stick to the yuki nakai heuristic. If you go 8, I will go 8.5. Never looking for overkill (unless the situation calls for it). This means I can roll with anyone without being a jackass.
Oh and I went deep into the leglock abyss and came out the other side. Now they are fully integrated and just another tool in the box.
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TBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Closed Guard... Ofensive one :)
I Have a hand whithou function (broken fingers (nerves) and this game was adapted for me :)
I have just one grip ;)
I Have a hand whithou function (broken fingers (nerves) and this game was adapted for me :)
I have just one grip ;)
DCBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I try to cause sense of misery and claustrophobia in every position. Continually driving weight and pressure.
You and I would be friends
CBBrown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
My primary game is very open guard focused, but I do work constantly to be sure I have as complete a game as possible, taking up Judo to get a better takedown basis and also bringing in more leglocks in my nogi game.
But I think the main "game" I have is just being unorthodox and, for lack of a better way to say it, annoying for my opponents. I've got very flexible hips and can bend myself in a few ways that most people really don't expect. I've also taken advantage of this to develop a few unique guard positions and sweeps which as far as I've been able to tell are myown invention and most people really don'T see coing and just sit there thinking "what is this guy doing" when I get them caught in it. Even my Judo game is a bit odd and I use a few defenses and entrences bring my opponents out of their normal headspace and they just first look and think "huh, that's wierd". My Judo is also very Sambo influenced, with me basically doing the absolute bare minimum judo to keep in complince with the rules.
But I think the main "game" I have is just being unorthodox and, for lack of a better way to say it, annoying for my opponents. I've got very flexible hips and can bend myself in a few ways that most people really don't expect. I've also taken advantage of this to develop a few unique guard positions and sweeps which as far as I've been able to tell are myown invention and most people really don'T see coing and just sit there thinking "what is this guy doing" when I get them caught in it. Even my Judo game is a bit odd and I use a few defenses and entrences bring my opponents out of their normal headspace and they just first look and think "huh, that's wierd". My Judo is also very Sambo influenced, with me basically doing the absolute bare minimum judo to keep in complince with the rules.
CKBrown beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
My game has evolved drastically over the years. These days my main game is half butterfly and leg locks (saddle and 5050). If I use my butterfly to get on top, I work on making mount miserable so they turn, I get the back and get the choke.
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I stall while trying to spend as little energy as possible,
while avoiding injury, and avoiding injuring my partner, or them injuring themselves,
waiting for my partner to make some mistake
that allows me to snatch some disgusting, stupid submission that is unlikely to injure them.
I also avoid choking people for the most part, as I have known 7 people who have stroked from chokes.
I play catch and release for the most part when I apply any submission.
I generally like to be in people's guard, and prefer to avoid being in the guard.
I am old, and don't have many fucks left to give.
I make a little sweat, show moves when asked, sometimes give my thoughts,
and tell the same dozen bad jokes, and the same dozen tired old stories again and again,
acting like I forgot that I have told them countless times before.
while avoiding injury, and avoiding injuring my partner, or them injuring themselves,
waiting for my partner to make some mistake
that allows me to snatch some disgusting, stupid submission that is unlikely to injure them.
I also avoid choking people for the most part, as I have known 7 people who have stroked from chokes.
I play catch and release for the most part when I apply any submission.
I generally like to be in people's guard, and prefer to avoid being in the guard.
I am old, and don't have many fucks left to give.
I make a little sweat, show moves when asked, sometimes give my thoughts,
and tell the same dozen bad jokes, and the same dozen tired old stories again and again,
acting like I forgot that I have told them countless times before.
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DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
"... some disgusting, stupid submission that is unlikely to injure them."
This intrigues me.
Which disgusting submissions do you speak of?
Being from sergio penha / oswaldo alves, I suspect the Mão de Vaca.
Also, the stroke thing scares me. I used to have the unhealthy macho habit of not tapping to chokes and going to sleep, thinking the risk was limited. No more...
Which disgusting submissions do you speak of?
Being from sergio penha / oswaldo alves, I suspect the Mão de Vaca.
Also, the stroke thing scares me. I used to have the unhealthy macho habit of not tapping to chokes and going to sleep, thinking the risk was limited. No more...
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
WMBlack belt 5th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
This intrigues me. Which disgusting submissions do you speak of? Being from sergio penha / oswaldo alves, I suspect the Mão de Vaca.
Sergio Penha was and is quite the submission trapper.
As for me, I have a little collection of junk-jitsu and garbage fu.
Anybody that gets caught with it has only themselves to blame.
As it's not like I am going to put that much effort into anything
other than getting a little sweat work out when I grapple.
As for me, I have a little collection of junk-jitsu and garbage fu.
Anybody that gets caught with it has only themselves to blame.
As it's not like I am going to put that much effort into anything
other than getting a little sweat work out when I grapple.
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
In regards of personal game - I also like all kinds of chokes... arm triangle from top, guillotine and it's myriad of variations, gi chokes, etc etc... I don't shy away from an occasional footlock and other leg locks though I'm far behind on the leg-pummeling meta. I prefer top, though I like to play closed guard and half guard as well but only against people who aren't good at nullifying that (LOOKING AT YOU WIM DEPUTTER) :) I have pretty good but not infinite survivability skills against most people bigger and better than me.
I tend to be one of those people nowadays that has a huge difference in performance between a good day and a bad day. Also I have always performed better in training than competition though I think I like competition as well.
Also I am one of those that against most people I tend to do the worst in the first ever roll with them and then tend to do better and better the more experience I have rolling with that specific person (white to black the same, no matter their experience and level).
I tend to be one of those people nowadays that has a huge difference in performance between a good day and a bad day. Also I have always performed better in training than competition though I think I like competition as well.
Also I am one of those that against most people I tend to do the worst in the first ever roll with them and then tend to do better and better the more experience I have rolling with that specific person (white to black the same, no matter their experience and level).
JRBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Pulld guard for years to spent more time on the ground. Later i wrestled a year but my stand up is still not more than a single leg and arm drag.
In the beginning we traind mostly closed, sometimes halfguard. Open guard/ guard recovery wasn´t so present so my recovery sucks but i feel comfortable in negative bottom positions.
Halfguard is my strongest position on the bottom followd by single X/ X. On top i like to Mount looking most of the time for the giftwrap but sometimes S-Mount. I always had the game plan to pull half, sweep, pass, mount, backmount, rnc. Never really traind spider/ lasso etc.
leglocks are the offensive part of my bottom game.
In the beginning we traind mostly closed, sometimes halfguard. Open guard/ guard recovery wasn´t so present so my recovery sucks but i feel comfortable in negative bottom positions.
Halfguard is my strongest position on the bottom followd by single X/ X. On top i like to Mount looking most of the time for the giftwrap but sometimes S-Mount. I always had the game plan to pull half, sweep, pass, mount, backmount, rnc. Never really traind spider/ lasso etc.
leglocks are the offensive part of my bottom game.
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JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
but my stand up is still not more than a single leg and arm drag...
For nogi BJJ add the snapdown and you don't need anything else :D
JRBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I´m working on that. its still hard to get them on their knees but works well enough to set up jumping guillotines :)
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JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I´m working on that. its still hard to get them on their knees but works well enough to set up jumping guillotines :)
You don't have to get them on their knees - if you get the hands locked you can trip or throw them if they insist on trying backing out upright.
