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What's your go to Triangle escape?
6 year(s) ago • 12282 views • 57 replies
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
The triangle is consistently one of the top submissions in Gi, NoGi and MMA. What's your favourite triangle escape?
A. Turn the corner to try and break their grip
B. Push on their leg to try and make space on the opposite side
C. Sit into it
D. Block one leg as soon as you find one hand is exposed and then step around them
E. Other?
A. Turn the corner to try and break their grip
B. Push on their leg to try and make space on the opposite side
C. Sit into it
D. Block one leg as soon as you find one hand is exposed and then step around them
E. Other?
JMBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Fedor tap.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Many stages, many layers, many options.
Prevention is key.
Posture is your friend.
Everything else is iffy.
Prevention is key.
Posture is your friend.
Everything else is iffy.
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SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Yeah, like Daniel said, good posture would be my initial defence. I never look down when I'm in somebody's guard. If I got caught in a triangle and couldn't posture up, then I'd grab their leg and do a kinda downward dog motion into it to try and break their legs open.
If I was in deep poop, then my late defence would be stepping my leg over their head and using that to hopefully generate enough leverage to ideally break free, or at least lessen the choking pressure.
If I was in deep poop, then my late defence would be stepping my leg over their head and using that to hopefully generate enough leverage to ideally break free, or at least lessen the choking pressure.
DCBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Biting... Really hard... Don't judge me.
DBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I usually favour "A" but my right hand in that pic would be gripping the right lapel in a pistol grip. A variation I saw Keenan do. Keeps them from dragging your arm across and saves your from an omoplata.
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I usually favour 'A' but my right hand in that pic would be gripping the right lapel in a pistol grip. A variation I saw Keenan do. Keeps them from dragging your arm across and saves your from an omoplata.
A is the one i've attempted most, have a reasonable success rate with, but in my last match i came up against someone it absolutely would not work on. I was in that f-ing triangle for nearly 2 minutes before i eventually tapped, I think C would have worked, but i didn't know it then
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JJBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Before fully locked and you know its coming...Hand on head, look down and elbow down straight to groin, Knee in groin, Elbow out. Restomp the groin.
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AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Before fully locked and you know its coming...Hand on head, look down and elbow down straight to groin, Knee in groin, Elbow out. Restomp the groin.
That's the sambo technique. No joke.
GFBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Escapes are or must be dynamic, as others have mentioned, it's more complex.
Ideally you have multiple escape routes at various stages and cycle between them until one seems to give you good enough odds to commit.
personally I really prefer to finish my triangles with that clean angle, so that's the main thing I try to deny my opponent, and if it's late stage I hug the strangling leg with both hands and slam it to the ground - while being very careful that it now becomes armbar territory, I guess it's a mix of A and B after the initial tilt.
Ideally you have multiple escape routes at various stages and cycle between them until one seems to give you good enough odds to commit.
personally I really prefer to finish my triangles with that clean angle, so that's the main thing I try to deny my opponent, and if it's late stage I hug the strangling leg with both hands and slam it to the ground - while being very careful that it now becomes armbar territory, I guess it's a mix of A and B after the initial tilt.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
I like Augusto Frota's approach.
There are three stages of submission defense.
1. Postural (idiot proof)
2. Technical (requires a lot of knowledge)
3. Timing (requires attributes)
1. Is the safest.
There are three stages of submission defense.
1. Postural (idiot proof)
2. Technical (requires a lot of knowledge)
3. Timing (requires attributes)
1. Is the safest.
JJBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I like Augusto Frota's approach. There are three stages of submission defense. 1. Postural (idiot proof) 2. Technical (requires a lot of knowledge) 3. Timing (requires attributes) 1. Is the safest.
I've seen this one guy who could just beat people with posture like a robot. Even if he didn't use his arms at all he could just use posture from standing or kneeling and almost like watching a matador from standing position and never once saw him get swept and only taken down a couple times in an entire year. Was just crazy good posture on another level that I feel like had to of been psychology hammered into him in a way that was soul ripping to where now even when he's not speaking he's looking off into space not thinking about anything he's still probably thinking about his posture.
DBBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
The ol' thousand postures stare... We've all been there.
TPBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
I usually favour 'A' but my right hand in that pic would be gripping the right lapel in a pistol grip. A variation I saw Keenan do. Keeps them from dragging your arm across and saves your from an omoplata.
This.
The hand not inside the triangle grabs the opponets hips from the opposite side so you can better ”turn the corner” & put on stacking pressure.
Once you get like in the photo A, where your knee presses against the opponet’s hip & you’ve killed his angle, it’s quite likely to get out. Tuck your chin and press the free hand against opp’s tigh, shake to free head. The cross collar grip mentioned by Mr. Deepu oughta prevent the immidiate omoplata attack.
The hand not inside the triangle grabs the opponets hips from the opposite side so you can better ”turn the corner” & put on stacking pressure.
Once you get like in the photo A, where your knee presses against the opponet’s hip & you’ve killed his angle, it’s quite likely to get out. Tuck your chin and press the free hand against opp’s tigh, shake to free head. The cross collar grip mentioned by Mr. Deepu oughta prevent the immidiate omoplata attack.
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JABlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Simon Hayes - Stack choke :-)
BNPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Other... it's secret, so I'm not telling ;)
RNBlack beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
A or B for sure but I have been using this one I saw Rener and Ryron showed in a Hyabusa video back a few years ago.
JCPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
E. Armbar
BVBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Sensei, how do you escape ... ?
Dont get caught.
...
Lol i hate that response. It is obviously true but not the question. Escaping submissions take lots of skill and understanding of why a sub works. The triangle works by breaking the posture trapping an arm and finding an angle. So any action preventing one or more will give you a chance to escape.
Dont get caught.
...
Lol i hate that response. It is obviously true but not the question. Escaping submissions take lots of skill and understanding of why a sub works. The triangle works by breaking the posture trapping an arm and finding an angle. So any action preventing one or more will give you a chance to escape.
PDBlack belt 3rd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
If caught control hips and stack until knee is driven through I socket and back fails.. When caught kill, crush destroy..
Good posture makes getting triangles rare so if you keep getting caught work your posture..
oil check has a solid success rate especially with the whole fist elbow deep
Good posture makes getting triangles rare so if you keep getting caught work your posture..
oil check has a solid success rate especially with the whole fist elbow deep
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RDBlack belt 4th degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Sensei, how do you escape ... ? Dont get caught. ... Lol i hate that response. It is obviously true but not the question. Escaping submissions take lots of skill and understanding of why a sub works. The triangle works by breaking the posture trapping an arm and finding an angle. So any action preventing one or more will give you a chance to escape.
I hate when they say.. "Don't get there" Lol
I'm like ok but I am there so now what? Lol
I'm like ok but I am there so now what? Lol
ARBlack beltVerified
CBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Posture, connect hands or grab the hip to create a frame, everything else depends on the situation. Been using the "cauliflower escape" a lot lately.
NCBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Anchor my arm thats inside the triangle so I don't get armbared as well. My outer arm grabs oppoments same side sleeve and step into his armpit downwards to pin with your same side leg.Sit back and stretch open.
. Seems to work for me.....just my thoughts.
Similar to the guy in this pic.
. Seems to work for me.....just my thoughts.
Similar to the guy in this pic.
ALBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
E. Other - Joe Moreira style smash pass.
Breaks the triangle almost every time.
Breaks the triangle almost every time.
SJBlack belt 1st degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
Simon Hayes - Stack choke :-)
Would be great to get Simon on here: anybody know him well enough to do sufficient poking for sign up?
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
Anchor my arm thats inside the triangle so I don't get armbared as well. My outer arm grabs oppoments same side sleeve and step into his armpit downwards to pin with your same side leg.Sit back and stretch open. . Seems to work for me.....just my thoughts. Similar to the guy in this pic.
So this is similar to C, but aren't you risking a footlock or a toe hold by putting your feet into his armpits as opposed to crossing them?
AKPurple beltVerified
6 year(s) ago
E. Other - Joe Moreira style smash pass. Breaks the triangle almost every time.
Do you have a video link please?
NCBlack belt 2nd degreeVerified
6 year(s) ago
So this is similar to C, but aren't you risking a footlock or a toe hold by putting your feet into his armpits as opposed to crossing them?
I would think in C with the foot in front is more likely for a foot attack. In the armpit I ve always pinned forward and down with enough tension while keeping the sleeve until I m out.
