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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)

5 year(s) ago • 43614 views • 949 replies

Justin Polette
Justin Polette
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified137 forum posts2975/1000
5 year(s) ago
Does anyone know how to tie their friggin belt there? Wtf at least be a good faker.
At least they took the socks and necklaces off. Baby steps...
Daniël Bertina
Daniël Bertina
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified881 forum posts15810/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have met & trained with two coral belts. Marcus Soares and Kiko Velloso.

I got a chance to actually roll with Kiko, and he straight up schooled me eventhough he was 20 years older.

Marcus is also dark side of the force jiu jitsu, pure evil. Everything hurts.

The thought of pissing off those guys by falsely claiming to be their students, teachers with such pedigree... Oh, my heart. That's a generation of assassins you shouldn't mess with.

If I were mr. Lasu, I'd be sweating.
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R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4799 forum posts35020/1000
5 year(s) ago
In the end of this what can happen to Lasu? It seems like he has no contrition about lying.
Other than being outed as a phony 7th degree coral belt, there is really nothing anyone can do.
Seems he does not care about his reputation.
Cameron Butcher
Cameron Butcher
Brown beltVerified25 forum posts2260/700
5 year(s) ago
I seem to remember some hullabaloo about Pure Jiu-Jitsu on reddit, I can't remember the details, maybe it was because they wear socks on the mat?
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
Honestly he has painted himself in a corner and has no "easy" way out.. I don't think he is bright enough to own his actions come clean and move on
Ray Robles
Ray Robles
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5 year(s) ago
I'm thinking back to all of the "disputed belts/fake black belt" issues I remember over the last two decades... This may be the worst example of it, and also the greatest example of it in America (I remember in Europe some years ago, some 35 year old guy was supposedly promoted to Red Belt, but haven't heard anything from that guy since).

BTW, if I'm disappointed in anything the most about this guy, it's the fact that he didn't release a series of DVD's entitled The 'Lasu' Guard.... What a golden opportunity for a grift missed LOL
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David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
I'm thinking back to all of the 'disputed belts/fake black belt' issues I remember over the last two decades... This may be the worst example of it, and also the greatest example of it in America (I remember in Europe some years ago, some 35 years old guy was supposedly promoted to Red Belt, but haven't heard anything from that guy since). BTW, if I'm disappointed in anything the most about this guy, it's the fact that he didn't release a series of DVD's entitled The 'Lasu' Guard.... What a golden opportunity for a grift misses LOL
I think you're right... the brass set he has to strap on a coral belt
Ray Robles
Ray Robles
Black beltVerified104 forum posts3915/1000
5 year(s) ago
I think you're right... the brass set he has to strap on a coral belt
Right? Like kudos for going big here.... His next step was to photo shop himself into a picture with young Helio and Carlos, and also, put socks on them too.
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
Black beltVerified239 forum posts2400/1000
5 year(s) ago
Right? Like kudos for going big here.... His next step was to photo shop himself into a picture with young Helio and Carlos, and also, put socks on them too.
Now I'm disappointed he didn't do that
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I'm thinking back to all of the 'disputed belts/fake black belt' issues I remember over the last two decades... This may be the worst example of it, and also the greatest example of it in America (I remember in Europe some years ago, some 35 year old guy was supposedly promoted to Red Belt, but haven't heard anything from that guy since). BTW, if I'm disappointed in anything the most about this guy, it's the fact that he didn't release a series of DVD's entitled The 'Lasu' Guard.... What a golden opportunity for a grift missed LOL
Missed a golden opportunity https://youtu.be/PvgnBKojm6w
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have been going back and forth with Master Alves and he has never trained or ranked Mr Rogers..

He said Rogers reached out to inquire about affiliating with his organization but was told he would have to test and get certified to be part of it.. He never got back to him..

Master Alves is not only a legend but an awesome guy we shared a few stories and it was an honor to connect with him.. Mr Rogers should be ashamed of himself
Justin Polette
Justin Polette
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified137 forum posts2975/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have been going back and forth with Master Alves and he has never trained or ranked Mr Rogers.. He said Rogers reached out to inquire about affiliating with his organization but was told he would have to test and get certified to be part of it.. He never got back to him.. Master Alves is not only a legend but an awesome guy we shared a few stories and it was an honor to connect with him.. Mr Rogers should be ashamed of himself
He should be, but I doubt he is or will ever be.
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1045 forum posts60960/1000
5 year(s) ago
I’m thinking that if his tape was a little thinner he would have awarded himself somewhere between 10-15 degrees.
I know somebody forgot to explain halving the tape on the stripes..
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
I have been going back and forth with Master Alves and he has never trained or ranked Mr Rogers.. He said Rogers reached out to inquire about affiliating with his organization but was told he would have to test and get certified to be part of it.. He never got back to him.. Master Alves is not only a legend but an awesome guy we shared a few stories and it was an honor to connect with him.. Mr Rogers should be ashamed of himself
Ok so now we have it, isn't legit, has never been legit. He is liar and a fraud.
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
Blue beltVerified621 forum posts3340/200
5 year(s) ago
Ok so now we have it, isn't legit, has never been legit. He is liar and a fraud.
I still wouldn't mind hearing from Tom McGonigal as to whether he ever trained with or promoted Mr. Rogers in the first place.

Has anyone tried reaching out to him here?

https://www.facebook.com/tom.mma.5

If no response, I'm tempted to send him a snail-mail letter. Maybe he's old school. :-D
Vovis
Vovis
Black belt 2nd degreeVerified978 forum posts9335/1000
5 year(s) ago
I still wouldn't mind hearing from Tom McGonigal as to whether he ever trained with or promoted Mr. Rogers in the first place. Has anyone tried reaching out to him here? https://www.facebook.com/tom.mma.5 If no response, I'm tempted to send him a snail-mail letter. Maybe he's old school. :-D
At this point I really don't think he was promoted by him.
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Justin Polette
Justin Polette
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified137 forum posts2975/1000
5 year(s) ago
I feel like it may be bad manners to go HAM on this guy. He's already been shown to be full of crap, so I'm out of it. Not worth my energy.
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
Blue beltVerified621 forum posts3340/200
5 year(s) ago
I feel like it may be bad manners to go HAM on this guy. He's already been shown to be full of crap, so I'm out of it. Not worth my energy.
The last piece of the puzzle for me is whether anyone legitimately promoted him to black belt in the first place. Is he lying about the belt itself or just the degrees?

My cynicism is pretty deep at this point.
Justin Polette
Justin Polette
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified137 forum posts2975/1000
5 year(s) ago
I still maintain that if this guy would just come clean, apologize for getting carried away with his fantasy, state what his legit rank is, and knock this pseudo zen master crap off, most people here would accept it and maybe try to help the guy out.

From his odd sentence structure and disjointed replies, he may be somewhat challenged. No disrespect intended, but if he's so deep that he believes his nonsense, he may need some professional help.

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