That's pretty bad ... lol

Yeah he made the comments private. They're still there but only the people who posted them can see them. (This is one of the reasons I don't trust business listings on FB; they let businesses effectively remove negative comments like this by making them private.)

Justin replied to the potential customer's 28-week-old comment, I guess to circumvent the effective deletions. Let's save this as well:

Ah, same old song, Same as before....I was searching on his Facebook site, but didn’t find any comments anymore.
All deleted: like all the false claims, the videos, him wearing a choral belt, the answer of Mestre Alves, that Rogers never has trained with Mestre Alves and is not affiliated with him........

I wasn't going to wade in over there but I feel like Master Alves' comment should be preserved somewhere where it can't be deleted. 1 of 2.

2 of 2

Does unauthorized use of the name for the purpose of marketing fall under legal action?

If that, time for some LEGAL SMASH.

Yes. Alves should probably have an attorney send a cease and desist letter, at a minimum. But that's up to him.

I think that for the sake of respect and everything else, someone has to be used as a scapegoat.

This nonsense can transcend on so many other things, thief and liar is thief and liar in other aspects of life, not just BJJ,

This is the best Forum Thread in history.

Witchhunt is almost as fun as Jiu Jitsu :)

Side note. I really like Edmilson Alves' jiu jitsu. Unorthodox, pretty evil. Love it.

https://youtu.be/Vjphyz2su6Q

Thanks for sharing. Haven't seen this before and it is super cool

Some of that good old Brazilian Chi Sau right there

Enjoyed that

Looks like their logo up there has failed to keep up with Lasu's promotions... I like to help so here's an updated version.

(I actually feel bad at making fun of them... but let's be honest, he has brought this upon himself.)

You should make it so it's tied the way he has it. For authenticity

Yeah....it is nobody’s else fault, Tatu.

He made this weird claims, uploaded all that crazy content and the picks of him wearing coral belts and black belts with 7 stripes publicly on his Facebook business site.....(and deleted lots of it after getting caught by the bjj community).

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.....

I did try to make the knot look messed up but didn't want to spend too many minutes on this :D

Nice touch on the faded word there.

A bit of a cheap shot, hence faded :D but couldn't pass on it...

[*I have no experience of the quality of the jiujitsu instruction at Pure Jiu Jitsu, it could be decent for all I know.]

Now Lasu is ready to fight

Haven’t seen that..... now as you mention it I ve seen it

In a response I got from Edmilson Alves (I've been using google translate) he said that Lasu has yet to contact him.

"Obrigado professor, sou um Mestre Coral 8 Grau Diretor Técnico Internacional da CBJJE e IFSBJJ e Presidente do Comitê Internacional de Jiu Jitsu, tenho uma história e um nome honrado a zelar e jamais permitirei e aceitarei que faça parte do meu núcleo de professores da minha equipe Linhagem Fadda, uma pessoa que nunca foi sequer avaliado e examinado por este Mestre, eu ja entrei em contato com o Randy Lasu Rogers, questionando quem fez essa graduação de Coral 7 grau, ele me respondeu que iria entrar em contato para esclarecer, mas não entrou mais em contato, oss."

So he said he'd explain in private and then didn't. This is my surprised face.

is it me or do they have really thick stripes on their belts. Stripes that I have to say don't look worn out at all. As if they don't actually roll.

I've said it before, but it needs to be repeated.

People like this, who are so narcissistic and out of touch with reality, are mentally unstable.

Be careful on how we proceed from here. Don't want the guy to go postal.

I think they are those Taekwondo electrical tape stripes....

And we already know Lasu doesn't roll, because it's rude to ask him to. So I bet the others pull the same dogshit

All I could think of was the Kevin Costner movie The Postman when you said that.

This thread makes me so warm inside.

Last night I was contacted by a jiu-jitsu practitioner in the ABQ area who wanted to speak to me on condition of anonymity. We spoke on the phone.

S/he related that:

- S/he has met Mr. Rogers (hereon “Lasu”) and been to a few of his classes/seminar-type things.

- Lasu had a personal tragedy and did not practice jiu-jitsu consistently for “many years”

- Lasu has been known to give out questionable promotions/degrees for a while. S/he told me a story about Lasu giving a degree to a black belt, who accepted it because he didn't want to be impolite while Lasu was there. The black belt peeled it off his belt and threw it away as soon as Lasu left.

- S/he has never heard of Jordan Gregory or encountered him on the jiu-jitsu scene in ABQ, which is a bit odd for a purported second degree black belt (but matches what we see in his social media feeds, where he mostly seems to have trained boxing, MMA, capoeira and other martial arts and stated he had no interest in jiu-jitsu tournaments past the NAGA he claims to have won).

- I was curious how Lasu came to be claiming Fadda lineage; did he just randomly pick a little-known lineage thinking no one would ever check? Apparently Kevin Bankens (the ABQ black belt who first called out Jordan Gregory's questionable promotion) eventually began studying under Todd Nathanson. Nathanson's site says he is of Machado lineage, but his Instagram has a bunch of #faddajj #fadda hash tags and shows Edmilson Alves visiting his school, so he has some kind of affiliation with Alves and Fadda jiu-jitsu. My source thinks that when Lasu saw Bankens claiming Fadda lineage, he began claiming it, too. Lasu was reportedly told to knock it off before this thread ever started.

- Bankens is a good instructor, a good guy, and a legit practitioner who doesn't want anything to do with Lasu's most recent antics (claiming a coral belt, claiming Fadda lineage when Alves has never examined him, promoting a brown belt to 2nd degree black, etc.)

- As previously noted on this thread, most upper belts in ABQ are reluctant to call out Lasu because they trained alongside him at some point. Also, they are concerned that Lasu has mental health issues, care about him, and would like him to get better.

- Lasu has a visible TBI. This is why he almost always wears hats in pictures. (My source did not say this, but I would guess it's why he wears hoodies with his gis.) My source did not know how he was injured.

- Lasu was reportedly “a beast on the mats” once upon a time

- Finally, my source has been told that Lasu did get his initial black belt from Carlos Machado, but that Machado is denying this because of their enormous falling out. I don't know how to square that with Lasu's own claim on Messenger (posted earlier in this thread) that he got his black belt from Tom McGonigal “20 years ago.”

I have not verified any of this, so please take it cautiously. Again, I welcome Mr. Rogers and Mr. Gregory to set the record straight if anything here is inaccurate.