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Can we verify these belts? (Randy Lasu Rogers & Jordan Gregory, Pure Jiu Jitsu)

5 year(s) ago • 43579 views • 949 replies

David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
They have an 'expert' division though, right? I assume he may have meant that. Or maybe he meant a different grappling tournament and got mixed up. Who knows. (I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.) Either way, winning a grappling tournament once doesn't make you some kind of BJJ prodigy who deserves rapid advancement to 2nd degree black.
I would easily give benefit of the doubt if there weren't so many other inconsistencies... at a certain point it's a pattern. He's using it as a reason to not have to compete same as Lasu is claiming he doesn't have to roll. It's all to keep their BS jiu jitsu safe from reality
Bridget Jack Jeffries
Bridget Jack JeffriesOP
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5 year(s) ago
I would easily give benefit of the doubt if there weren't so many other inconsistencies... at a certain point it's a pattern. He's using it as a reason to not have to compete same as Lasu is claiming he doesn't have to roll. It's all to keep their BS jiu jitsu safe from reality
I agree with you.

I was sued for defamation by crackpots years ago, and it was a headache even though they lost badly, so I tend to be cautious with what I say online now, especially in being critical of someone's business or livelihood.

Look up Alvin Ang and UFC Singapore for a recent example of someone being sued for defamation for calling out a questionable belt.

That's why I tend to hold back a bit before saying, "Yup. He's lying."

But I agree we are seeing a pattern here.
Vovis
Vovis
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5 year(s) ago
I agree with you. I was sued for defamation by crackpots years ago, and it was a headache even though they lost badly, so I tend to be cautious with what I say online now, especially in being critical of someone's business or livelihood. Look up Alvin Ang and UFC Singapore for a recent example of someone being sued for defamation for calling out a questionable belt. That's why I tend to hold back a bit before saying, 'Yup. He's lying.' But I agree we are seeing a pattern here.
Well the inconsistencies are many here.
The first promotion of brownbelt to blackbelt 2nd degree.

Video of him in a Machado gi, with blackbelt 2nd degree 2017.

2020 posted a picture of him with 7th degree on his Blackbelt. Jumping 5 degrees in 3 years.

Then deleted said picture when it caused controversy, if you have nothing to hide why delete picture.

Then claims association to Edmilson Alves, but no mention anywhere on web of said association. Not even Edmilson Alves welcoming this guy to the association.

And not one mention of who promoted him to blackbelt.

And I can guarantee 99.99999 % of blackbelts are proud of their blackbelts and gladly show their lineage (their history of how they got to blackbelt even if the trained at multiple gyms) IE: who promoted them.
Too many inconsistencies to overlook.
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R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
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5 year(s) ago
Well the inconsistencies are many here. The first promotion of brownbelt to blackbelt 2nd degree. Video of him in a Machado gi, with blackbelt 2nd degree 2017. 2020 posted a picture of him with 7th degree on his Blackbelt. Jumping 5 degrees in 3 years. Then deleted said picture when it caused controversy, if you have nothing to hide why delete picture. Then claims association to Edmilson Alves, but no mention anywhere on web of said association. And not one mention of who promoted him to blackbelt. And I can guarantee 99.99999 % of blackbelts are proud of their blackbelts and gladly show their lineage (their history of how they got to blackbelt) IE: who promoted them. Too many inconsistencies to overlook.
This 100%
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
Well the inconsistencies are many here. The first promotion of brownbelt to blackbelt 2nd degree. Video of him in a Machado gi, with blackbelt 2nd degree 2017. 2020 posted a picture of him with 7th degree on his Blackbelt. Jumping 5 degrees in 3 years. Then deleted said picture when it caused controversy, if you have nothing to hide why delete picture. Then claims association to Edmilson Alves, but no mention anywhere on web of said association. And not one mention of who promoted him to blackbelt. And I can guarantee 99.99999 % of blackbelts are proud of their blackbelts and gladly show their lineage (their history of how they got to blackbelt) IE: who promoted them. Too many inconsistencies to overlook.
Yea I agree. I've never seen a legit black belt who is not proud of their lineage
Scott Chiriboga
Scott Chiriboga
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5 year(s) ago
Yea I agree. I've never seen a legit black belt who is not proud of their lineage
That's held true in my personal experience in regard to myself and everyone with whom I've interacted
Vince Choo
Vince Choo
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5 year(s) ago
Well the inconsistencies are many here. The first promotion of brownbelt to blackbelt 2nd degree. Video of him in a Machado gi, with blackbelt 2nd degree 2017. 2020 posted a picture of him with 7th degree on his Blackbelt. Jumping 5 degrees in 3 years. Then deleted said picture when it caused controversy, if you have nothing to hide why delete picture. Then claims association to Edmilson Alves, but no mention anywhere on web of said association. Not even Edmilson Alves welcoming this guy to the association. And not one mention of who promoted him to blackbelt. And I can guarantee 99.99999 % of blackbelts are proud of their blackbelts and gladly show their lineage (their history of how they got to blackbelt even if the trained at multiple gyms) IE: who promoted them. Too many inconsistencies to overlook.
the pureness of Le Fuckery is clearly afoot here
Philip Dunlap
Philip Dunlap
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5 year(s) ago
Where do these people come from ?

The renowned is interesting I did a google search on his name and BJJ and less than 2 full pages come up most about a student he promoted.

Hell there are Blue Belts that more history would come up
Vince Choo
Vince Choo
Black belt 3rd degreeVerified1129 forum posts21440/1000
5 year(s) ago
Where do these people come from ? The renowned is interesting I did a google search on his name and BJJ and less than 2 full pages come up most about a student he promoted. Hell there are Blue Belts that more history would come up
woah there, don't let blue belts know they get googled.... cos you know, they might not leave after getting belted in this case
Nayjo Burnett
Nayjo Burnett
Black belt 1st degreeVerified15 forum posts2895/1000
5 year(s) ago
Wtf did I just read. I just rabbit holed the hole thread. Dudes shenanigans reminds me of the bullshit I saw going down in karate back in my 20's lmfao.
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David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
Wtf did I just read. I just rabbit holed the hole thread. Dudes shenanigans reminds me of the bullshit I saw going down in karate back in my 20's lmfao.
Was only a matter of time before it found its way to jiu jitsu
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
@mcdojolife on Instagram specializes in outing these folks and is a hoot to follow!
I actually sent it that way, he didn't seem like he was going to jump on it. Possibly due to him getting ready to start filming his documentary
Nayjo Burnett
Nayjo Burnett
Black belt 1st degreeVerified15 forum posts2895/1000
5 year(s) ago
Was only a matter of time before it found its way to jiu jitsu
Yeah it's sad to see the fuckery start to happen in BJJ, the shit can get real bad if guys like this aren't checked.
David Ferrazzano
David Ferrazzano
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5 year(s) ago
Late to post, though I don't train at JJ Machados anymore I've never see Lasu before.
I think Lasu has benefited from doing business in an isolated part of New Mexico. No one calls him out because they are either his students, or former students that would only hurt their own legitimacy by doing so
Sean Mcentee
Sean McEntee
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5 year(s) ago
Sadly no, Rio Rancho is still for all intents and purposes a part of Albuquerque which is the most populous part of the state. What's kept him flying low is the lack of an academy. I remember the local stir when he started wearing two stripes out of nowhere, or when he randomly showed up and gave Bankens a stripe on his black belt. Yeah it was stupid, but he had no school to expose, no presence to publicly link him to his shadiness.
Deepu
Deepu
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5 year(s) ago
lol, without any research or going through this thread, Lasu Rogers has to be fake based on:

(1) Does not know how to tie his belt.
(2) Wears a hoodie under his gi.
(3) Has socks on with his gi.
R. David Gonzalez
R. David Gonzalez
Black belt 4th degreeVerified4799 forum posts35020/1000
5 year(s) ago
lol, without any research or going through this thread, Lasu Rogers has to be fake based on: (1) Does not know how to tie his belt. (2) Wears a hoodie under his gi. (3) Has socks on with his gi.
made me choke on my coffee! Lol
Deepu
Deepu
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5 year(s) ago
made me choke on my coffee! Lol
Having now gone through most of the thread, my methodology has proved to be 100% effective. Seriously though, learn to tie a belt before faking lol.

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