Guys I have had an incident that really is making me question teaching.. I had a guys at me gym a complete poser and I tried to help him as he promised me he wanted to change.. And of course I tried turns out he is 2 different people one in life and one on the internet. So of course he keeps being a moron and i give him the boot.. Few weeks later I get a call from DR Phil's show they are doing an episode on how people destroy their lives with the internet behavior.. They promise not to turn it into a circus, and to get him help.. I agree to do it and now he realizes he looks like a fool but to him it was all a publicity stunt for his internet persona.. He started trashing me on the net and I talked to a promoter and he was offered a pro fight against me and I threw a couple thousand into myself if he made it to the end of the fight I would give him money and he would get the winners purse too.. When I knocked him out I would donate the money to Cancer research being a cancer survivor.. That way something would come of the stupidity.. Of course he said no way and finally stopped the bullshit.. ( although I am ashamed to say I went to his apartment when it first happened and he would not come out and that is not my proudest moment acting like a 12 year old at 58) Now comes the problem he was 'friends' with a couple guys at the school.. Now I had to tell most of the students that it was between me and him as most wanted to go to his house and kill him.. There were 4 guys that were friends with him that said I don't want to be involved and like and idiot I let it set untill talking to a friend back east who asked me if I would teach someone doing to one of them.. And I said no if the walked in the gym they would have a problem with them and they would either have to publicly apologize or I would beat their as out of the gym.. A couple of the guys got upset and started to rave about how they are all about the team it was then I realized how selfish people are.. I run a business, have a family, teach for free, travel and work corners for free without me there is no friggen team.. I take away from business and family so people can train yet they think because they come to class when THEY want they are somehow doing something for the team.. I am seriously reconsidering teaching as to be truthfull it would be a lot easier to do what they do and train somewhere else and focus on me.. I respect a lot of the guys here and am really hoping for a reality check.. any advice appreciated even if you do think I am wrong and off base.. I have been told too many times I have a tendency to become more invested in people then they themselves are and when it happens somehow they always end up lashing out at me

...This is a like cancer in your gym and needs to be cut out for the health of your team and your mental health. ... If a guy like you quits teaching the whole art suffers. In the end you gotta do what you think is best but don't quit sharing what you know. People come and go but this skill set you possess is valuable and you just need people who can truly appreciate it around you.

It sounds like you got trolled and you took the bait unfortunately, and turned words and posturing into action. Sadly this is what the PC culture feeds on. Firstly while I admire your self sacrifice to coach for free and do things out of pocket, there are people who regard Free= No value. To these mindsets even a free cup of coffee is too expensive! Go figure. When you are not imposing a fee, there is no perceived boundaries and the personalities who display self-entitlement, or in this case, online persona, will no doubt push the boundary to a place where you are uncomfortable, which in this case, seemed to press a few buttons. Disrespect, no regard for experience or appreciation for your sacrifices and the list goes on. Sometimes charging a fee prices out these types of jokers. These are the time wasters who keep signing up for multiple free trial classes *sigh* Anyway, sounds like there is some gym cancer so you have to remove them as soon as possible. They will find another group to infect or fit in.

Thanks Vince and I think you may be right as I am noticing more and more entitlement over the last 2 years

It sounds like you got trolled and you took the bait unfortunately, and turned words and posturing into action. Sadly this is what the PC culture feeds on. Firstly while I admire your self sacrifice to coach for free and do things out of pocket, there are people who regard Free= No value. To these mindsets even a free cup of coffee is too expensive! Go figure. When you are not imposing a fee, there is no perceived boundaries and the personalities who display self-entitlement, or in this case, online persona, will no doubt push the boundary to a place where you are uncomfortable, which in this case, seemed to press a few buttons. Disrespect, no regard for experience or appreciation for your sacrifices and the list goes on. Sometimes charging a fee prices out these types of jokers. These are the time wasters who keep signing up for multiple free trial classes *sigh* Anyway, sounds like there is some gym cancer so you have to remove them as soon as possible. They will find another group to infect or fit in.

Guys I have had an incident that really is making me question teaching.. I had a guys at me gym a complete poser and I tried to help him as he promised me he wanted to change.. And of course I tried turns out he is 2 different people one in life and one on the internet. So of course he keeps being a moron and i give him the boot.. Few weeks later I get a call from DR Phil's show they are doing an episode on how people destroy their lives with the internet behavior.. They promise not to turn it into a circus, and to get him help.. I agree to do it and now he realizes he looks like a fool but to him it was all a publicity stunt for his internet persona.. He started trashing me on the net and I talked to a promoter and he was offered a pro fight against me and I threw a couple thousand into myself if he made it to the end of the fight I would give him money and he would get the winners purse too.. When I knocked him out I would donate the money to Cancer research being a cancer survivor.. That way something would come of the stupidity.. Of course he said no way and finally stopped the bullshit.. ( although I am ashamed to say I went to his apartment when it first happened and he would not come out and that is not my proudest moment acting like a 12 year old at 58) Now comes the problem he was 'friends' with a couple guys at the school.. Now I had to tell most of the students that it was between me and him as most wanted to go to his house and kill him.. There were 4 guys that were friends with him that said I don't want to be involved and like and idiot I let it set untill talking to a friend back east who asked me if I would teach someone doing to one of them.. And I said no if the walked in the gym they would have a problem with them and they would either have to publicly apologize or I would beat their as out of the gym.. A couple of the guys got upset and started to rave about how they are all about the team it was then I realized how selfish people are.. I run a business, have a family, teach for free, travel and work corners for free without me there is no friggen team.. I take away from business and family so people can train yet they think because they come to class when THEY want they are somehow doing something for the team.. I am seriously reconsidering teaching as to be truthfull it would be a lot easier to do what they do and train somewhere else and focus on me.. I respect a lot of the guys here and am really hoping for a reality check.. any advice appreciated even if you do think I am wrong and off base.. I have been told too many times I have a tendency to become more invested in people then they themselves are and when it happens somehow they always end up lashing out at me

Some observations: *if you teach for free, people will oddly not value it as much, and won't commit. *charging an affordable fee will at least keep out the leeches. *posting a clear code of conduct on the wall, near the entrance, is never a bad idea. *take no shit when a serious rule is violated. One warning permitted, if they mess up again, give them the boot. *it's your house, they don't like it, they can get he f out. Lastly, *the gentleman in question would probably die from a cardiac arrest while wobbling to the ring.

Holy shit at that amount of drama. Dr Phil? Really? You got way too involved in your student's lives. I don't understand this paragraph: 'There were 4 guys that were friends with him that said I don't want to be involved and like and idiot I let it set untill talking to a friend back east who asked me if I would teach someone doing to one of them.. And I said no if the walked in the gym they would have a problem with them and they would either have to publicly apologize or I would beat their as out of the gym..' So these 4 guys are now stirring more shit? If so, boot them out.

I appreciate the feedback at times I think I have lost touch with the world.. I use the internet as a diversion and to keep up on subjects but also as an attempt to inspire, motivate and help others I just do not understand this culture of being something you are not on the internet

Already did show is on tomorrow.. this is the trailer https://drive.google.com/[...]sp=sharing I have reset and realized I got rid of the dead wood and will focus efforts on those that deserve it.. If you don't want to help yourself I am done with them.. I am and idiot for getting more invested in them than they are themselves.. I am putting things in place so this never happens again.. It's funny that today another student posted a video that reminded me WHY I teach.. Timing is so funny https://www.facebook.com/[...]877092433/

Sorry watching that you lost brain cells you will never get back

Guys I have had an incident that really is making me question teaching.. I had a guys at me gym a complete poser and I tried to help him as he promised me he wanted to change.. And of course I tried turns out he is 2 different people one in life and one on the internet. So of course he keeps being a moron and i give him the boot.. Few weeks later I get a call from DR Phil's show they are doing an episode on how people destroy their lives with the internet behavior.. They promise not to turn it into a circus, and to get him help.. I agree to do it and now he realizes he looks like a fool but to him it was all a publicity stunt for his internet persona.. He started trashing me on the net and I talked to a promoter and he was offered a pro fight against me and I threw a couple thousand into myself if he made it to the end of the fight I would give him money and he would get the winners purse too.. When I knocked him out I would donate the money to Cancer research being a cancer survivor.. That way something would come of the stupidity.. Of course he said no way and finally stopped the bullshit.. ( although I am ashamed to say I went to his apartment when it first happened and he would not come out and that is not my proudest moment acting like a 12 year old at 58) Now comes the problem he was 'friends' with a couple guys at the school.. Now I had to tell most of the students that it was between me and him as most wanted to go to his house and kill him.. There were 4 guys that were friends with him that said I don't want to be involved and like and idiot I let it set untill talking to a friend back east who asked me if I would teach someone doing to one of them.. And I said no if the walked in the gym they would have a problem with them and they would either have to publicly apologize or I would beat their as out of the gym.. A couple of the guys got upset and started to rave about how they are all about the team it was then I realized how selfish people are.. I run a business, have a family, teach for free, travel and work corners for free without me there is no friggen team.. I take away from business and family so people can train yet they think because they come to class when THEY want they are somehow doing something for the team.. I am seriously reconsidering teaching as to be truthfull it would be a lot easier to do what they do and train somewhere else and focus on me.. I respect a lot of the guys here and am really hoping for a reality check.. any advice appreciated even if you do think I am wrong and off base.. I have been told too many times I have a tendency to become more invested in people then they themselves are and when it happens somehow they always end up lashing out at me